The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Sep 12, 2013 7:16 PM

Dino Disenfranchised

This may be beyond the scope of TTFL but I thought it rather interesting.

The video link is a Noam Chomsky interview regarding the USA and Syria. At the 30 minute mark, NC describes the USA's contribution to the International Courts and their immunization to said court. This was done as a condition to participation.

To summarize, Obama is using the threat of force (illegal in International to which the USA is immune) on Syria to surrender all chemical weapons in accordance to International Law.

Questions: 1) For the USA to be immune from prosecution in International court, they used a "conditional participation clause" to avoid jurisdiction... How is this dissimilar, other than level of court and participants, to the thoughts/ways of TTFL?

2) Has anyone sought out a linguistics professional like NC for advice? 2a) Doesn't anyone think this would be a valuable avenue to research?

Chomsky: Instead of "Illegal" Threat to Syria, U.S. Should Back Chemical Weapons Ban in All Nations

democracynow.org

In a national address from the White House Tuesday night, President Obama announced he is delaying a plan to strike Syria while pursuing a diplomatic effort from Russia for international monitors to take over and destroy Syria�s arsenal of chemical weapons. However, Obama still threatened to use for...

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Mick Parker

I think it boils down to international bullying. the US is the self appointed enforcer/expoter of its own law. Its a matter of enforcement really, who's big enough? if there were a war/crash tomorrow & the US slipped off its top spot to Russia/China I believe the US would lose its ability to substantiate or maintain such a clause/foreign policy.

Dino Disenfranchised

I raised this question at TTFL regarding a parallel of the USA not wanting to relinquishing their powers over the rest of the world, similarly, we humans don't want to relinquish our inalienable rights to a social contract we-ourselves had not endorsed wittingly.

The USA conditionally joined with reservations at the onset and signing of the contract.

Parents unknowingly contract on the child's behalf, without any conditional reservations, not understanding the full implications and requirements of said contract. When we use this "birth certificate" improperly, we solidify the contract and in doing so, opt out of our inalienable rights to remain as a "child" under god and the care of the state.

How far off am I so far?

Mick Parker

again its the enforcement, superior presumption in the face of our lack of fact and/or ability. i imagine it like being caught up in a large crowd exiting a football stadium tunnel, with very little effort you move along with the crowd, try to stop is more effort & you are still swept along, turning & moving against the crowd takes real effort & will. all men are capable of being eachother its just a matter of experiences & will, we're all made of the same stuff? what is it in our psyche makes us play these almost default settings/ roles when anything is possible..running at idle.... :O ... = weed/sleep deprivation haha i have a point here somewhere? yeah social contract is the heroin, in the short term it stops you getting sick but in the long term is it really gonna make you better?? junkies here refer to it as their medicine, their sad delusion is their undoing. the state hooks you up early, makes it easy & routine. mundane makes us docile, everybody else is doing it, its easy... yeah back to caught up in the football crowd & being dragged along. Birth registrations?.I have a 17 yr old daughter so it doesn't sit easy with me,with puppy dog eyes i followed every order unquestionably, look everyone I'M DOING EXACTLY WHATS EXPECTED OF ME (y)

Mick Parker

the birth cert is a piece of paper representing a presumption, but its a massive presumption with force, the force of the unquestioning minds around us who play along, join the army/police/public service/politics. As rergards linguistics, i wanna learn from this guy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LIYad3TvY6Q