mmmhhh....I am trying to figure out how in the world a cop can add value to this group......he/she would have to leave his/her job to begin with....and then, make a serious mindshift....just saying :/

on the other end.....peace officer could add some values in here, but does that really exist ? ...peace officers ?

But a POLICE officer working for a corporation that try to enforce some stupid internal corporate rules and regulations on "ME" ?....I don't think so...

And MOST of them POLICE officers, don't even know that fact :D

question pete how many people have you seen get banned in here do you think a cop could even discuss stuff in here without getting banned for his/her bullshit???

Are you fucking drunk or I just lost the ability to read English ?

that's right pete act like you always do avoid answering the question.

What question ?? :/

that's right pete act like you always do avoid answering the question.: THAT IS A FUCKING LIE by the way....ask ANYONE in here.....ANYONE :D

do you think Scott Duncan is not capable of banning people that talk bullshit no matter who they are???

Why you ask me this stupid question ?

What do I have to do with Scott Duncan capabilities of doing anything ?

Why should I THINK about that....

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, AND WHY I AM WAISTING TIME IN THIS.. ?

the whole point to this thread is it does not matter who speaks truth whether it's a cop or not truth is truth no matter who speaks it and your personal likes or dislike for a individual does not matter at all

How can a POLICE OFFICER talks the truth ?

for the same reason that someone believes in God can now. NOT believe in God

POLICE OFFICERS as oppose to PEACE OFFICERS are a bunch of ignorant sack of shit....they are clueless, and they are very well trained to be.....you MUST know that, you've spent 15 years in jail APPARENTLY, or that maybe a lie ?

Anyway, I don't even want to talk with you John Frisbey.....forget about my existence please....Thanks and good luck !!

so do you think those same police officers could talk and discuss in this group and not get banned.? since they don't know all the right things to say and what not but they not be called out for b*******?

why do you keep calling me John frisbee? what proof evidence do you have that I am that identity???

2+2=4 no matter who says it, there is value in the lessons of banishment, most are watchers, the ones that speak out usually fuck themselves... it has been very quiet... My point was just to stay on target... They learn that we can take care of ourselves with appropriate documentation and void... the Irony of the above...

And Jeff this thread is not about you... It is about the whole distraction period.

yes.

yes sir sorry sir

Well Jay, John IS the whole distraction :-D

I do miss the discussions, not the fighting but the gold nuggets that surface in most discussions...and I miss Scott Duncan sense of humour :) nice to see you back Scott however brief :)

Well most of what we need to protect ourselves is here already... The Notice of Mistake, The Dean Kory Thread... The foundation is set mostly I think... Liens etc.. Doesn't mean there isn't more to learn... So what do you got Gail Blackman? Shoot... There still are nuggets...

I'm interested in the corp and trust, I went to the bank the other day to do some research...and was talking to her about corporations etc from the banks perspective....asked her about credit for a corporation..she told me that the directors of the corporation were personally liable for it....that isn't how I understood a limited liability company to be...I would also have to have a personal credit check done for the corporation to get credit....does that make sense to anyone?

I asked her if this was common at all banks..and she said that another girl working there from a different bank says the same

Haha....it all depends on the corp's assets....a corp that have a privillege on a person for 1 million a year...can be a very well trusted corp :-D

The bank tried to give me the same song and dance, They wanted to attach surety to me personally. Not my purpose in opening an account. I insisted on a account without any attachment to the identity given to me by the state. So the corp needs a million in assets in my case to get credit. I have a couple of process's to finish with some liens. Those liens will then be valuable consideration, assets of the corporation, that then can be used to establish/create credits...

But why are you concern about getting credit ? :-D

Convert the B O E'S created into assets of corp to money of account...

I want to know what needs to be known before I move forward Pete Daoust

what do you mean jay...if the persons name is liened...this maybe is where im confused....you are liening it so they cant use the value, but is there still opportunity for Gail Blackman to pay using B of E?

Can you explaine this in detaila Jay ?

Details

Once the corp liens the name, as part of the Trust... your identity created by the state is an asset of the corp... their persons credit is cooked ... however by placing a value on the lien your create a B O E that you convert to credits... from the debt of their person.

I found out that's not true Jay just saying

ok if I am mistaken correct me.

what is true?

so when the corporation goes to the bank....the value of the lien gives your corporation value that is used in getting credit from the bank? but if liening the name screws my personal credit...and they say i need a personal credit check to get credit...im missing something?

placing the lien on the legal name just stops them from using it for fiat money

basically just killing the legal identity so nobody can use it in a public document

That is the goal Gail....no credit for the NAME and lots of credit for the corp.... :-D

yes im not clear how that happens

Yes your corporate account needs to be separate. It can be done it is a request my guy had to call three different people to complete it... First corporate account to complete the TRUST, It is a TRUSTEE corp...

that is what I thought..the lady at the bank was the one who said if i was a director that a personal credit check would be done and i would be personally liable..and all the other directors?

It is a bit of a mindfuck, but simple... ;-)

ok i didnt say trust corporation..would that make a difference?

No it is PRIVATE. Just create a simple corporate checking account with the understanding that they will tell you and you will need a certain amount of services to get credit from the bank... for your corp. They really want you to be personally liable... so what you don't. It is a basic checking account is all for the person/corp...

a lien is a claim on the property rights

so this is not the same as claiming the equity of the BC ?

the corporation is not claiming the equity the corporation is claiming ownership of the title of the legal name

right ok ty

Got it?

I think so...thank you both

now once that lean has been placed in the trust of the corporation if someone was to use that legal name they have to satisfy the lien first

thank you...im still not clear on how the corporation can get credit ?

if they did use the legal name then the corporation would have the right to sue such individuals/ official acting in color of law. to satisfy the lien

k can you expand on examples or probabilities of what you mean ? I have a mortgage....what would happen to it once i lien the legal name?

Well I am in the process with a company that owes me for services so I am creating value for the Trust thru the lien method... so that is my strategy at this time... The BC has no equity it is an account.. that is all.

A mortgage is whole different Ball game ... But Bills of Exchange and some courage you can settle with new original and stuff one would think... Who knows about the mortgage stuff?

a mortgage could become the asset of the corp once lien is in place one would think...

i'd need to check but suspect that the mortgage company has a lien on it already...it's not paid off?

File a Lis Pendens... to put you first in line... they double dip with mortgages you never really own anything but not sure on the process's myself around it completely yet...

Been focussed on other things...

gail do you understand bills of exchange if so apply that knowledge to discharge the debt. with regards to your mortgage UCC article 3

I do understand it, but I'm not seeing any of these companies following the law in relation to it

You discharge the debt thru the Trust via the corp..

does that mean that any debt I have now, will be the corporations debt once I lien the legal name...and I then discharge it using bills of exchange through the trust via the corporation?

gail wins the Gonja cookie

Yes, but the corp is private and it is first in line... you are the rooster...

gail when I send in my payment of Federal Reserve notes with the remittance they sell the remittance. this is the corruption of the companys

yes I do see it....and am happy to do my part in helping them to follow the law lol