Damn that blows. Get your documents notarized and take them down in Monday to the clerk. Have her give you a stamped copy as proof that you filed them into the record.

Asshats

If your case is not in their system yet, have it dismissed because you made your appearance and they did not have their end in order.

Fuck Chris Schulte !!! :/ You've bended over ? :( Why NOT just show your Driver's license ???? :/

because he wants to prove to us he's not a cop.

Here you go again with your cop non-sense stuff freezebee....

I'm going to flip a coin in the air .Pete call it heads or tails?

Take your coin and shovel up it your ass...

Chris I would like to see the documentation they force you to sign if that would be possible thank you?

Here are my thoughts so far concerning the Driver is License Chris Schulte.... Driver is License CONTRACT The DRIVER is LICENSE, identify a license given to a DRIVER. Now, WHO IS this Driver ?....on this thing, the government even put �MY� photo, so I guess they are trying very hard to IDENTIFY �ME� as this Driver, and at the same time, they are identifying the person named PIERRE DAOUST as the Driver��.now, who the fuck is the Driver ? It seems to me that this piece of identification is a FRAUDULENT one. It seems to me that the Driver should be the PERSON, and NOT �ME�, of course my HANDS are on the steering wheel�.but by giving a cop this piece of identification, �ME� seems to ACCEPT the fact that I AM THE DRIVER, and therefore, ACCEPT the fact that I AM a PUBLIC Thing and/or a government agent on duty when I SHOW this identification. So HOW can I deal with this, I NEED to travel to feed MYSELF�..there is no other options I can see. This contract seems to be FRAUDULENT�..what are the OPTIONS to make it perfectly LEGAL ? This is where I am with all this DRIVING non-sense shit....so guess what ? I will write stuff, and send it registered mail to whom I think SHOULD answer my questions......I will ASK QUESTIONS, and see what will happen... :D, Of course I will keep all these registered mail copies with me, and if I encounter some shit, I will at least have PROOFS that I did my DUE DILLIGENCE and no one will be able to object to it :D

the documentation they force you to sign ????....That one makes me fucking sick, this is another stupid NON-SENSE....NO ONE IS FORCING NO ONE TO SIGN....

Claim everything was done under actual threat of incarceration, which was in fact carried out. They know it is true, but most likely will ignore it anyway, because the judge administrator won't allow truth in his court. (...and all along I thought the court was paid for by the taxpayers, as well as the judge's salary...??

Claim everything was done under actual threat of incarceration ????....change the word incarceration for the word kidnapping :D

Recognizance promises the person will appear in court to deal with the case so I'm not sure where it leaves you after signing... By signing you may have accepted surety for the person...

And by the way, the threats begun when you were in your car.....that is WHY I need to send these registered mail QUESTIONS to these public servant before I do anything......imagine you have ALL THE COPIES of thos questions you've asked to the PUBLIC SERVANTS concerning your views about this stupid driver's license thing......you have SOMETHING to play with, and the game will be VERY different....

Et voila Eamonn O Brien :D

Good point! In America that is a felony crime punishable by no less than 10 years, to a maximum of life, or even death.

The Dictionary of Canadian Law 3rd-edition, RECOGNIZANCE: n. 1. a person's own promise to appear.

WE NEED TO SEND and ASK questions regarding EVERYTHING we doubt..... Why do you think Scott Duncan call ChiefRock Sino General a paper terrorist ? :D

Because he is TERRORIZING these public servants ..... That is HOW you get IMMUNED from these idiots :D

I want to see documentation or this thread is just going to turn into another Derek hill thread.

AND IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT !!! My intents are : RESPECT, HONOR, DIGNITY and INTEGRITY.....ALWAYS :)

Fuck you Jeff Roggers......You were NOT even here when Derek Hill was here.....you just happened to appear when freezebee was flushed......and you smell the same as him.....go fuck your fucking self liar....

prove that I have lied to YOU?

You've told me my eyes was solar panels :-D

Go now and copy post and paste the comment Where Jeff Rogers said that To you?

..shoulda stuck with the way you signed it....that was the record!...the other went in the circular file....Hahahaha! a clerk enforcing "color of Law" F.U. bitch!

Yep....these clerk seems to be PRACTICING LAW these days :D

... Signature V.C. Signature Void

OK...I do not have a Drivers Licence. yes Eammon, that document I signed DID make a PERSON Surety for this. But remember....I signed it VOID and was then threatened with being locked in a cage unless I signed it HER way.

in that instance i'd be locked up plotting my redress of wrongs & fuck them :p .... but swerving because you're on your phone is inviting unnecessary attention ...unless that was your intention?

Rick, I tried to...they threatened me with being locked in a cage for how I signed the document. AND then admitted they will be presenting to the judge to show him how I signed it ORIGINALLY. I asked for a copy and was denied

S�il, I was cocky. I def was asking for it.

it may be a good idea to go read the post everything that dean kory did wrong

threats are just threats till they are carried out... they bluff me all the time and I tell them "Bring It!">... they are trained to LIE to get you to comply, they will NOT show the judge anything that would negate their process and procedure...

.I signed it VOID and was then threatened with being locked in a cage unless I signed it HER way...... OK Lady, lock me in that cage, but rest assure that I will do EVERYTHING to make sure that you will NEVER lock no one in a cage anymore, I promise you that lady, and I will do it.....so where is your cage lady ?.....

Rick, They did! I was put in a cage 2 times because I didn't "comply" with their process ALREADY. I had every reason to think they would do it again. This was my first time getting arrested! :-)

And a LADY putting you in a cage, that can be exciting Chris Schulte ??? :D

Pete, when she DEMANDED I signed it a certain way, I thought that was her also DEMANDING to be SURETY in the matter......

so you got put in a cage??..thats part of the bluff...your not the first one they played this skit on!..

Or Frisbey, maybe you could be so kind as to point out what I have done wrong.....I would appreciate it

mhmmmm.....

So, correct me when I am wrong here.....I am going to give the clerk my documents on Tuesday morning to be put in the court file. My documents are a Notice of Mistake and a Certified copy of the BC. Then I leave. Is that correct?

And WHO made a MISTAKE ??? :/

I was identified as the name on a public document

why can't I see Frisbey anymore?

Frisbey = Roggers

Ahhhh, ok.

affidavit to make them recognize/ acknowledge the documentation

Chris prove your claim that I am who YOU say I am?

There is no need to prove anything in here Freezebee, we only need to NOT lie......easy and not complicated at all....so fuck off with your proofs....

Or you might want to spend your time more wisely by fighting this issue?

What ??? ^^^^....what he say ^^^^

So my question now is Chris if you're going to go to court or not yes or no?

Because if you do you. You are again accepting an offer to contract.

That is a great question. Apparently, a person has to be there. So, unless I am wrong, a person will be there

This is my first actual arrest. I am new with this stuff....I posted this to open up the discussion....

The next step is you will receive a summons to appear at court. Reply again with your notice of mistake affidavit and birth certificate.

If you don't have a name tag you can make one with those written on a sticker tags

I guess Chris Schulte, you will have to explaine to someone WHY you've signed that thing......I am not sure but an affibavit should be added on this subject.....

If you DO go it's SPECIAL appearance. Just to make sure they have the surety in custody.

Absolutely Bildo!!!

Judge: Please state your name for the record?

My reply would be: I will state my name for the record under one condition you pay me $10,000 and can only use it for 30 minutes.

Remember everything you say is for the record what you say it then written down and becomes a law that which is a contract

Have you done that Jeff?

Let's take back up when you cross the bar you must say all rights reserved which makes them answer the questions on the notice of mistake

Remember they offered us to contract we are just completing it just like in bills of exchange where there to complete the contract and discharge the debt

That's true. You're there by special appearance to make sure that the guy on the bench does his fiduciary duty in discharging any alleged "charges".

Just a little reminder Chris when they threaten incarceration you know you're doing something right

mhmmm....good point!

Eammon, I just reread this Recog document. I did not sign as SURETY, I signed as DEFENDANT.

Read the notice of mistake explains that there. all weasel words to place surety on the human

and since we're the only one with standing in the court and the judge will not give his name for the record you state Judge John Doe 1234 accepting trustee of the surety for the record

judge: I will not enter a plea of not guilty for the defendant

your response: let the record show Judge John Doe 1234 accepted surety for the defendant

Defendant.......the party against whom relief or recovery is sought in an action or suit or the accused in a criminal case...surety is answerable for debt and default..you are both in this instance..

ok. ^ That is what we use the NoM for, yes?

yes

the affidavit that accompanies nom/bc forces the court to recognize it as a filing

the district attorney must answer your affidavit and claim of notice of mistake by affidavit point for point and they cannot do this because they cannot act as a person

Chris Schulte Scott Duncan done a court session you should maybe read over it again and again if your going to use the NOTICE OF MISTAKE stick to the questions on it And YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE NATURE AND PROCEEDINGS

"If you want to you can submit it as an EXHIBIT in an AFFIDAVIT. They can't refuse your SWORN TESTIMONY!" Does that mean change the "Notice" to an Affidavit and sign it under oath?

on it Mo Chara Do Chara

if I may ask you I'm just curious what are the charges that they are accusing you of?

Violation of MGL Ch 90/23, 24i, and 25. Oper MV with a Susp Lic, Failure to produce Lic/Reg, Open Container Violation

Thats what these documents say anyway

I really didn't want to use the NoM for me being an arrogant fuck, but it is what it is. Lesson learned

being an arrogant fuck is completely LEGAL....just saying :)

Yup!

so those are all misdemeanors correct? if so the worst that can come about it is 93 days

Yeah...I am not really into that ^

I am kinda thinking there is no injured party or contract, so no jurisdiction

there is a contract you got arrested

Presumed

Scott Duncan "If you are DETAINED and then arrested, they MUST get you before a Justice of the Peace, FORTHWITH." I asked for this and was denied!

if you did not have an ID how did they know where you live in that it was your name is your name and have you been arrested before with your fingerprints taken?

I do not know how they got my name. I told them for the matter at hand they could address me as Chris. I gave them an address they could use, but didn't identify it as MY ADDRESS. Every question answered was prefaced with I will answer that under protest and duress on threat of being locked in a cage.

They took my fingerprints and 3 photos, again under protest and duress

There were registration plates on the car

Here is what I would do ( but that's me, and remember I am brainless and dumb :D ) I would get a NoM notarized. I would sworn an AFFIDAVIT relating EVERYTHING that happened that night. I would point out in this AFFIDAVIT the exhibit A, as the notice of mistake. I would INCLUDE certified copies of the DOCUMENT I have sent to the Government regarding the Driver is License questions I had sent them, mentioning that I have not received ANSWERS on these questions (Of course you can�t do that :D) But I can :D I would file all these in the court file, and, as soon as they call the NAME, I would say�.HEY !!!! I am here to take care of that stuff� :D I would reserve ALL RIGHTS And would STICK like a fucking arrogant bastard to these QUESTIONS ( NoM) :D :D

Thats exactly how I see it too.....

How can you be dumb and brainless ? :/

I would put ALL the details in this affidavit, the cage stuff and everything.... and HOW I was scared being put in a cage :D

Did you see what I got arrested for? I left a party with 400 people with an open container. I am pretty sure that was dumb and brainless. I am sure the pirates were just waiting for someone like me and there I was!

Well, what would you do if you were a pirate ?

Same as they did to me. they are Pirates after all

pirates do pirates stuff :D

^ Thats 2 questions. Both can be answered with....My body has a brain and a penis, but not enough blood to operate both at the same time. There was a lot of smoking hot woman at this party, so the blood never really got back to my brain.

My mistake!

Ok, I missed something somewhere. What affidavit goes with the NoM and the BC?

affidavit that mentions the exhibit a notice of mistake and Exhibit B birth certificate

Pete Daoust "I think I will go outside and make a stupid thing, just to get arrested, and then, I'LL SHOW YOU" lol

:D

Chris Schulte "hmmmmm......good thing I am learning all this shit BEFORE I get arrested...." also hilarious

I have these moments Chris Schulte, you know these moments where suddenly everything disappears :D

Some calls it BLACK OUTS.... :D

And when did he said that freezebee ? :D

You should at least play Jeff Roggers.....fuck freezebee, you sell yourself by yourself

If you lie, do it right... !!!!!

Point of Order Definition: A term of parliamentary law and procedure which refers to an interjection during a meeting by a member, who does not have the floor, to call the attention of the chair to an alleged violation or breach of the assembly�s or meeting�s rules of order. So, what do we use in the States? Objection?

You use SHUT UP PLEASE and answer my questions

point of order means you're bringing it back to the point of the questions on the notice of mistake

Where did you learned that ? :/

mhmmm, but it seems to be a term of Parliamentary Law. Is that something we use in the States or no?

Pete, the NoM says: When the "justice" starts speaking, interrupt them. Say, "Point of order!" They will immediately be silent. At that point, state "I believe I am the only party with standing, so barring objection from the court, I wish to RESERVE ALL RIGHTS now, and henceforth. and Scott said it in the Scott v ChiefRock battle

If it is in the Scott Duncan and ChiefRock Sino General battle, you have to go with that Chris Schulte :D

But thats Canada...

show proof that Scott Duncan doesn't know who I am? HOW IN THE FUCKING WORLD CAN I PROVE THAT ????.....

when we speak it becomes part of the record and law because we have superior claim and standing in the court.

freezebee show proof that I've lied?...WHY ?....WHY ? should I prove that you are a liar ?....tell me WHY ?

canada, usa, ireland, australia.... all the same in that regard chris, only minor difference in legislation in the different "regions"

so shall it be written so shall it be law

Jeff Roggers, just so it can be very clear, the ONLY thing I am saying is: you are freezebee......now I don't care that you've changed your identity, I don't care if Scott is aware or not, I don't care if Scott knows who you are or not, I don't care if it's a good thing or a bad thing.....I just say that you are freezebee, because you are freezebee....that's all.....no big deal and hey...I have nothing more to add.....have fun and good luck !!!.....oh, and I don't have to prove it, you've already done that by yourself :D

Hey Chris! I'll throw my "buck-o-five." First things first. What a drag you are dealing with this shit. I feel for you, and wish you well. Secondly, yes, you totally looked for it. Yes, you "fucked-up". SO WHAT? It is YOUR problem , not Chris's problem. So, send to "hell" any stupid feeling of "guilt" that "the system" needs from the man. YOU CAUSED NO HARM TO ANY MAN. So fuck it! :D Now, if I was Chris, I SHALL not fear, because EVERYTHING IS ABOUT SURETY, and ACCOUNTING. Don't get blinded by the flashing lights. The "facts" of what happened that night are just part of the "busy work." What I would do? Exactly what Scott Duncan has taught. NoM in for of an Affidavit, with the BC attached as an "Exhibit". VOID any/all summons, orders, citations, etc (with all the goodies like "new Original", etc). File at the Clerk's. Also, send certified copies of these docs registered mail to ALL parties. Once they receive it, that means ACCEPTANCE! (they have received PROPER NOTICE :D, and we all here at TTFL know what that means); CHRIS SHUTLE is in the CUSTODY of the Court. Now is THEIR SOLE responsibility, not Chris's. If YOU signed anything while arrested/detained, the NoM asks for FORGIVENESS if "I" and/or ANY OTHER PARTIES have led the Court to believe that "I" am acting as SURETY. I would add to my NoM, if I was in your shoes, something along the lines of: "If I and/or any documents bearing my signature/seal, have led the Court to believe that I am acting as SURETY for the LEGAL NAME in ANY matter, please forgive me." Something like that. Scott had given this particular example about "signatures" and surety, in some thread. On another note, we learned from Derek Hill's situation (been it real, or not) one never attorns, and in any contract that is not COMPLETELY to OUR BENEFIT, we sign VOID. PERIOD! Why change YOUR mind? What were they going to do, shoot you in the head if you didn't sign like she said? "Scared" to be put in the "cage"? I think you kind of pussied-out a bit there. Don't bark, if you ain't going to bite! I don't mean it in a way to offend you. I just think you have the skin to take it, you have showed that here. You know what I mean. :D Once again, I really wish you well Chris! Keep us posted. And remember: keep your eyes on SURETY and ACCOUNTING. The rest is just voodoo-doodoo! :D PS: Jeff Rodgers is a cop. And stupid. :D

oh shit I almost missed that one if they say to you you're a belligerent defendant you know what the response is right. by whose authority do you wag war on my person.

thanks for the help on that one perez

Jeff Roggers: <<by whose authority to you wait war on my person.>> Stupid? I rest my case! :D YOU are always welcomed!

perez you had 5 corrections on the last post: you did so does that make you stupid?

Yes, I am stupid too. I'm just not a cop. :D

if a cop quotes 2+2=4 does that make it any less truthful? this is no way that I'm a cop it's just a fact

if the information I am sharing helps you win in court and keeps your property and your loved ones safe does it matter where it comes from?

we are all ignorant. but I don't think very many in here are stupid. except if you're a cop and think you can stop us.to( listeners/ watchers)

Thanks Max. Oh, I feel no guilt!! I only understand WHY this happened! I def pussied out! I did sign the Recog document "under duress VOID <autograph>", but didn't hold it, and signed a NEW one when produced the way I was instructed. That was dumb. I won't pussy out again now that I get it! Learning is way different than practicing. That is how I see it too...after going back and re reading the posts, I see how important VOID is. I will be VOIDing the Recog document. As far as the other shit I signed, it was ALL signed "under protest and duress", if I see it, VOID, if not, forgiveness. "If I and/or any documents bearing my signature/seal, have led the Court to believe that I am acting as SURETY for the LEGAL NAME in ANY matter, please forgive me." - Scott said on a thread that it was not his signature it was the documents signature. Should I refer to it as mine? or "any documents bearing a signature that appears to resemble mine" or something to that affect?

I still want to see the arrest record paperwork

Scott Duncan: Find the ORIGINAL CHARGING INSTRUMENT, and VOID IT. Is that the Recog document I signed? The only other thing I've seen is a "Massachusetts Uniform Citation", but that doesn't bear my signature. Is there any other documents I need to look for?

the 'bail clerk' IS the/an assistant magistrate. and you tell them you do not understand the nature and cause of the proceedings. first of all, you need to protect yourself from your self by not doing what you did. how was it that they could open the door to your automobile?

It was unlocked. I was not ready for the encounter. I dud not know the bail ckerk was a magistrate either. I shall VOID that document

Why did you let a stranger dictate what YOUR signature is. That's YOURS to GIVE. It's not hers to refuse.

:D

Scott, it was a mistake. I acted like a pussy. I didnt know what i was doing...it was my first time.

NOBODY has the right to dictate how you sign ANYTHING. If they "put you in a cage", just sit there. Don't contract with them; "Under Protest and Duress" or otherwise. Have you learned NOTHING from Dean Clifford? There is no "co-operating a little". Stand your ground. They lock you in a cage? Do Push-ups. Plan an invasion. Design a mobile network... JUST DON'T GIVE YOUR NAME. They can't keep you THAT long... because somebody has to PAY for it. This shit ain't free. There are accounts involved. The bar is pretty low for consent, so MAKE SURE you make the CREATION of the account, impossible.

Scott Duncan: JUST DON'T GIVE YOUR NAME. "They can't keep you THAT long... because somebody has to PAY for it." At what point does this (if ever) become untrue? For example, can someone who has (or is suspected of having) assassinated the Prime Minister, raped, murdered, robbed a bank, hit and run (a child), a pedophile etc. really expect to be set free in a matter of time if they don't give their name? Forgive me Scott. I just can't see the government setting some people free just because they don't provide their name/signature. Signed...Confused and Curious with Bleeding Shins.

Chris Schulte would had to go in front of the JUSTICE at one point WITHOUT having given the NAME.....and there, they will need some serious stuff to keep him in.....of course, if you shoot someone, and the crown have proof, you will enter a complete different game, but here, in the tender for law, we do NOT harm and/or Rape others..... THE TENDER FOR LAW is an examination of what you need to know to fight Judicial corruption, by examining the stuff you are LIED TO about. THE TENDER FOR LAW is an examination of what you need to know to fight Judicial corruption, by examining the stuff you are LIED TO about. :D That's what we do here....

I REALLY appreciate the feedback! I will take it and put it to use. It sounds lie the biggest mistake I made was signing the Recog document. That will be VOIDed. All I need is more experience! An appearance will be made tomorrow morning. Is there anything I should know? I am going to file an Affidavit with Exhibit A (Notice of Mistake) and Exhibit B (BC).

Regarding Jeff's comment demanding $10,000 of LEGAL TENDER in exchange for contracting, is this a wise option? ... Maybe an all expenses paid trip to the Maldives would be a safer bet?

Or a brand new CAR !!!! :D

Maybe Bob Barker will be there tomorrow Chris Schulte :D

By signing the document you're accepting whatever terms they set down. You don't get to dictate your own i.e. $10,000 etc... If you can void/undo what you've done then it'll be the questioning the validity of the account and application of surety route imo... Best of luck anyway Chris, keep us posted on how it goes...

I agree Eammon! I will keep you posted!

I have an Affidavit written, my NoM done, now I just need a certified copy of the BC. I will be ready.

so what you're saying is if someone asked me for my name I have to give it to them without any conditions of contract?

if someone gives me an unreasonable offer I can refuse or contract. how I choose to do so. I can also counter their offer with another unreasonable offer.

And Chris Schulte, a small trick :D As soon as you enter this place, imagine EVERY human you meet, having a shit on a toilet bowl.....picture them the best as you can having a shit....and think about me :D Have fun and ....well have fun.. :/

fuck them Chris, thats why :) ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEOOZDbMrgE

Oh fuck, don't start me with that blue stripped face S�il Eile, I am gonna buy a fucking horse and blue paint :D

if at the time they claim you wee under the influence, then you can NOT entertain a contract. if they claim you did enter into a contractual obligation, then they can not stand on their claim you were intoxicated, because no person/party intoxicated can be liable to enter any contract.

I wanted to share this, Chris Schulte. Re-reading Scott Duncan's thread on Dean Kory I found this. It will help focus on whats important. Scott Duncan: <<Here is my court room position in a nutshell. You do not accept surety � EVER. Step 1: Reserve all rights. (get Derek Moran to parrot how to do that...he loves that shit) Step 2: Direct your case and do not let them proceed. Present NOTICE OF MISTAKE, and REMEMBER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS IT CONTAINS. If they do not answer these questions you object, and declare that unless the questions in your NOTICE OF MISTAKE are answered, you CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THE NATURE AND CAUSE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS. Anything outside of this supports their position that you are �playing� their game, and thus it is presumed that you understand the rules. The only way to counter this is to declare that you CANNOT UNDERSTAND the rules without these questions being answered. Think very carefully about this. If you are a novice at chess, and did not know about castling and its rules, you might raise the obvious question, �Why do you get to move two pieces?� If I refuse to explain that rule to you, and even deny you the chance to present your understanding of the rules, would you continue playing chess with me? If you attempt to stop the game for this reason, that's when you're going to �understand� that this was a chess game for money; and that I have big, burly thugs to enforce this game. You claimed to know the rules for the engagement, even if you later disclaimed being an expert. Novice drivers and expert drivers all have to follow the same rules. You don't get to ignore rules because you suck at them. Just as my chess board is not a chess school, the court will not allow the presumption that you being a novice is a lawful excuse. The only method to extract yourself �with honour� is to accept responsibility for the mistake in presumption. They are presuming something wrong...and you are acknowledging it's your fault. The court must accept this MISTAKE, and your entreaty for forgiveness for the unintended debt created. The court MUST do this. Your name should never come into it. Your name is but a piece of evidence in a much larger presumption that the court has the right to attach a name derived from a public document, to a living man. This, of course, is untrue. The court knows it's not their right. That's why in the Mary Croft days, the quote �living man� argument worked. But these are trimming at the branches of the poisonous tree in an attempt to make it look pretty. The only solution is to target the root. The root is accounting and surety; there's no farther to dig down.>>

Scott Duncan: <<If I have lead this court to believe that my signature constituted CONSENT, then that would be a mistake, and please forgive me.>>

ask to see a certified copy of that document you signed and then new original. void it in red ink.

i did not like that. that was hard

What happened chris?

FB conversations & hypothetical situations cant prepare you, now its real Chris (Y)

Everything good brother?

i went to a fucking war armed with a fucking puppy. I will post all the details when i get to my computer. This looked easier in thr brochure. Pros - more freedom beliefs are left behind

Chris Schulte now has a finer appreciation of my awesomeness. This is always a good thing :D

^ That is true. I am also very pissed that I didn't see through the stupid fucking belief that this was not gonna be as tough as it was. FUCK!

I get there at 8:30 and they want to fill out some paper work. The guy (I think probation guy...???) asked me a bunch of questions and I told him he could refer to the Recognizance document I signed (I asked for a certified true copy there and he said he didn't have it). I go into the court room at 9:00 and see about 25 or so cases called ranging from Vacating a Restraining Order to OUI to not having money to pay a court fine. The judge on everyone that he could said right away "I issue a not guilty plea." Wait....on one he asked how the guy wanted to plea and the guy said "Guilty". All the rest he said ^. He calls CHRISTOPHER SCHULTE. I get to the podium and say "Point of Order", he interrupts me and says he will do the talking. I continue and say "I wish to reserve all rights, are there any objections?" He asked if I wanted an attorney and I said "I will be presenting myself Sui Juris." He said "I am entering a not guilty plea." I said "Objection, that is a proceeding and I have questions that have to be answered before a plea can be entered. I do not understand these proceedings unless the court can answer my questions. Bailiff, please take this Affidavit of Truth." Judge says "I do not want to see them, we will have <something, I am not sure what he called it but some type of hearing or something> on <I think he said September 18, but I can't remember because I just got railroaded>. I am entering a plea of not guilty" I said "Objection" and had NOTHING. I looked around and was stunned. I just got completely railroaded and I had no fucking clue how or what I was supposed to do now! He said something to the effect of I must show up on that day. I think that was it, but it is kinda jumbled. If you think I missed any part of the ACT, ask and it might jog my memory. I am fucking pissed at the freeDUMB stuff and pissed at myself for not properly preparing. I studied and studied, but had NO practical or even practice application of this.

That is to the best that I can remember! ugggh.

BTW, thanks to David Johansen for helping me prepare last night.

Extract from Black's Law 5th SURETY--- Everyone who incurs a liability in person or estate, for the benefit of another, without sharing in the consideration, stands in the position of a "surety," whatever may be the form of his obligation. Hang in there Chris Schulte

LOL... :D

Glad you are laughing MISTER DAOUST.

What's the maximum fine Chris?

errr.....probably somewhere between $500 and $1000

OBJECTION...for the record, I AM here for special appearance, and I don't WANT to do business with ANY of you....WHO ARE YOU....Are you trying to RAILROAD ME ?.....I want a copy of the audio of what's happening in here....I DON'T WANT TO DO BUSINESS with any of you....LEAVE ME ALONE !!!!....BLABLABLABLABLAB....AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, that's a few quid alright... What documentation did they give you afterwards?

THERE IS A FUCKING MISTAKE THAT'S GOING ON IN HERE..... When I start like that, it's impossible to stop me, unless you knock me off with batons :D

Hey YOU !!!...WHO ARE YOU Mister ?...I just pictured YOU having a shit on a toilet bowl, and it looks exactly like me....WHO ARE YOU....what do you want from ME....

You also might just want to act like,,,, ""SOME ONE IS KIDNAPPING YOU""

Yes Pete Daoust, my bad....I did say by special appearence!

BY WHAT AUTHORITY you enter a PLEA on MY person...???...What is your NAME and inscription number...WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ?????

Ya Pete, thats easy on the thread here. Thats a lot harder in fucking front of a supernumery

I have good reasons to believe that some of you STRANGERS are fucking around with the SURETY of MY person.....WHO ARE YOU.....you just blow a fucking tantrum in there :D

I wish I did. I had my script and I froze when they wouldn't see my Affidavit. It was not as I expected it.

SRIPT KIDDIES never survive! You have to be able to speak with out paper as they change rules or just lie out right.

As Scott says, no-one is following the rules anymore... :(

^ Yup. That happened FUCK! I

Ya should have brought a big stick and shook it aggresively at them... :p

I did it last time I went to court....for at least 4 hours....I even let go a few tabarnac de calisse (means fucking this and fucking that in English)....You have to let it all out at one point, and fuck....come what may...fuck it, what are they gonna do ?....hang you ???....I even told them...Hang me if you want I don't give a shit.....

A big stick would have been much better than the cute fucking puppy I brought

SD can teach you how to play soccer, that doesn't guarantee match wins,talking football & its rules can seem a million miles away when someone is hacking at your heels for the ball.... thats up to you & your conviction to win ;)

Eamonn, I still have to read the packet they gave me. The quid doesn't bother me, i can always get more quid. From the beginning for me this was to assert my RIGHTS. And I fucking folded. I am pissed.

True S�il Eile. I am not done though

yeah fuck them Chris, if you wanna be taken seriously you got be serious.... so they cant even look at you for fear they'll be reminded of the truth/fact & the hopelesness of further dalliance with you. blue & white stripe'y face time ;)

Pete Daoust: "...of course, if you shoot someone, and the crown have proof, you will enter a complete different game" Is this something you believe Pete, or, something you know? With all due respect Pete, from my understanding thus far, regardless of the venue, agency, or public procedure; it's always about an account being created and the search for a living being to become surety. Is there another game?

Moving forward. Please help me as clearly I need it. :-) I am going to send a Certified Mail, Return receipt package to the court clerk containing my Affidavit listing Exhibit A (the NoM) and the Surety Bond (BC), correct? Then they WILL be NOTIFIED.

And between now and Sept 18 or whatever he said, I need to learn how to assert my fucking rights.

I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS I RESERVE ALL RIGHTS Loud and Clear....that's how you do it :D

yeah, I did that. Then didn't know what the fuck to do with em. Scott warned me (well us) of this. I thought I would do fine though.

Well, they can't do fuck all with them...you reserved them ALL :/

There's a saying which provides excellent advise regarding a decision to go into business. It's "GO BIG OR GO HOME!", otherwise occasionally refereed to as "HALF MEASURES AVAIL US NOTHING" You'll Kindly pardon the cliches and focus on the gem of truth they contain. :)

The packet has a "Criminal Complaint Defendant Copy" which lists the Code violations. It may be signed with an x, I am not sure it that is an X or an indication of where to sign. it is not dated next to the signature. Todays process was called an Arraignment. It has an Application for Criminal Complaint whcich is signed. It has a Police Report with a write up which is unsigned. Lastly, a copy of the Citation issued. I have not read this word for word yet.

" He (the JUDGE) said "I am entering a not guilty plea." ..this is terrific news, Chris - it seems the Judge has agreed to assume SURETY for YOU!! ;)

He said he issued a not-guilty plea, not entered... Anyone know what issuing a plea is?

criminal = Tort, loss of a legal right, how did they attain these legal rights? if you have questions = lack of understanding, lack of liability, they are taking it upon themselves = SURETY

Yeah, probably Derek, but <self doubt> I don't know what the fuck to do with that!

Derek Moran, only if Chris Schulte, can hold him to it.

You can bet the Judge will try to give the position of surety for the matter back to you.

^ Exactly

Was he offering the plea for acceptance to any takers...? :p

In my humble view, we have to be willing to act like an idiot child having a tantrum (sans yelling) and repeat the same things again and again and again and again if necessary.

SAFETY PHRASE,,, "I do not understand, please do not whip me anymore as "I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!" and why have these people kidnapped me and brought me here? --insert-- whipped puppy eyes.

LMAO! They called me a Sovereign Citizen in this REPORT

Well Fuck! there ya go. They just admitted they have NO authority.

Unless you want to contract back with them that is.......

"if i've lead you to believe.... then i'm sorry that would be a mistake" is beautiful lol, i've been using it to stop bank appointed recievers but its infinite in its uses. dont allow them define you either

Should start acting like the PRINCIPAL and CREDITOR.

Maybe im just a smartass like that- but if it were me, i would file an Affidavit into the court saying just that: AFFIDAVIT 1. The Judge was kind enough to help me out by entering a plea of "not guilty" and accepting to be the SURETY in this matter for me going forward. ..an Affidavit is ultimately a 'Statement of Facts' - would you be lying, did YOU enter the plea Chris?? Sincerely, IMPLIED CONDUCT and/or ChiefRock Sino General just LOVES this term! ;)

Chris Schulte - I understand that it can be hard to think on the fly and under pressure. While it is obviously better to know all of this so well that it just flows out naturally, in the meantime, this might help. Consider writing out/structuring your responses much like computers solve problems. Do A, if yes (positive response) do B, if no (negative response) do C. If response to C is negative, do D, if positive, do E. etc

There are lots of OMISSIONS in the Officers Statement. Such as I operated "under protest and duress. And i do not consent to any of this" the moment I was wrestled out of my truck and I said it at least 20 other times...namely, every time I answered a fucking question. It ONLY indicated the statement where I wrote it even thought the fuckers said "Duly Noted" at least 3 times!

Fabricating evidence?

in what manner Eamonn?

you can hold them liable later.... when their frivolous & vexatious case against you has been dealt with.

(Y) Derek Moran: "AFFIDAVIT 1. The Judge was kind enough to help me out by entering a plea of "not guilty" and accepting to be the SURETY in this matter for me going forward."

Derek, he said that on 2 occaisions and both times I "objected"

By omitting important facts pertaining to the matter... I'm only speculating

Yes Robert Cormier, and what do PRINCIPALs and CREDITORS do when some one else starts mucking about in their business? mmmmm? Do not 'mis-read' what I said.

Everything they left out IS in my Affidavit

That is now 2 different Police Departments that have described my behavior as that of a SC.

Chad Brodgesell: They stick to their guns and put a stop to it?

one thing... objecting to something the CROWN/DA/the other lawyer says = "OBJECTION!" objecting to something a Judge/Justice of the Peace says = "EXCEPTION!"

valid cause of action, should contain facts relevant to how you are liable for the jurisdiction?

you know who would actually be a good source-of-reference for this, is LaNi Black - she went to court recently and they dropped-the-charges without ever hearing her i think.....she just flat-out refused to ATTORN from the get-go in an honourable-manner, as i recall

"At this point we became concerned based upon the defendants actions thus far, his refusal to recognize the laws of he Commonwealth, his beliefs, his statements, and his phrases that the defendant had an anit-government attitude similar to that of a Sovereign Citizen." That sounds like an opinion was interjected......I never said either

I gotta take a break from this and get some fresh air.

Robert Cormier Chad Brodgesell Should start acting like the PRINCIPAL and CREDITOR. Chris Schulte, think from the point of view as the PRINCIPAL and CREDITOR and comprehend what is before you then respond appropriately, THEY are the PUBLIC SERVANTS/TRUSTEEs. Treat what is before you as such and you will be able to pick apart their claims and turn them to dust.

On the issuing a plea point, one legal definition of issue is "to send out"... I'd imagine everytime he did this the "defendant" had the oppurtunity to reject it... Obviously it constitutes process as soon as he said it though so you were right to object imo

In the meantime- i think this is where ChiefRock Sino General would remind us all in this position the exchange he had with a 'Judge' once: "Public jurisdiction has NO authority over PRIVATE agreements" *Justice to ChiefRock* "You're RIGHT." I would take advantage of the time til your next hearing and switch to Kate Butler-mode, with the method she used...coached by none other than 'YOU-know-WHO' ;)

Derek Moran Following contract law truisms (thinking of ChiefRock Sino General), since Chad was offered a contract, if Chad was to give a counter-offer, wouldn't that automatically VOID the contract before him presently?

Robert Cormier, I get this from Pete Daoust, why are you taking his spot?

@ Chad Brodgesell. No one can take Pete's spot. :)

What the FUCK is wrong with me saying,,,, Act like the PRINCIPAL and CREDITOR? Fuck , I'll go back to lurk mode and learning language instead of being distracted.

..is this the thread regarding Chad, or Chris' predicament?

Chad Brodgesell - Nothing wrong with you saying it. It added value to the thread. :)

Hey Chris Schulte, you need to ASK to whom called you a Soverieng Citizen on: What is a Sovereign Citizen, because you have NO IDEA what is a sovereign citizen......if whoever wants to TAG you with something, they have the obligation of giving you the DEFINITION

If this were Canada, one point of my Affidavit would read: 1. I AM NOT a - 'Her Majesty AND an organization.' ..i just dont know WHAT exactly the equivalent of our Criminal Code here in Canada, is called in the u.s.A, and what the definitions in it read as for stuff like- "every one", "person", etc...

Pierre- Chris should call a, 'VOIRE DIRE' on what a Sovereign Citizen is!! VOIRE DIRE = 'a trial within a trial'

Derek Moran; I raise this question thinking about how many of us are not being given access to certified copies if the agent suspects we may write void on an order. Do we have to even bother with all that travel time and effort? Justice: �You have been charged with impaired driving�� Chris: �I thank you for your offer. I do not consent however. I counter offer that all charges against the name CHRIS SCHULTE be dropped, and that you be charged with fraud for impersonating a Judge�

Did Chad actually write that somewhere...?

Did Chad write what?

..WTF - is there an ECHO in here??

If Sovereign Citizen is/has a "negative" definition, in that it damages your reputation, isn't that a case for libel?

Chad Brodgesell...are you available for a second?

^ It may be as I am NOT nor have I ever identified myself as a SC or with any one who claims to be a SC. I don't even know what the term means.

That's crazy, that probably means that all local and state police have been made aware of the "soveriegn citizen" thing. Funny how they just automatically assume that you are one.

Prob got passed down from the feds to some smucks on Beacon Hill..

No, I did not write that and this thread is about Chris Schulte needing help of any nature. So stop saying things I have NOT said. End of discussion.

In light of just how fond Scott Duncan is of Chad's critical-thinking-abilities (just ask him) i instead hand down the following ruling: *Justice to Robert Cormier* "Falsely Misrepresent the words of Chad Brodgesell again, and your REWARD will be ..BANNED! This is a BENEFIT no Notice-of-Waiver will WAIVE...and the 'Bleeding Shins'-schtick is getting tired"

Now.....ANYONE ELSE interested in DISTRACTING us from helping Chris Schulte, in the, HELPING-CHRIS SCHULTE-thread?? ..unbelievable

Thanks guys, I appreciate the effort and time!

Chris Schulte, seriously, To WHOEVER called YOU a Sovereign shit thing, you need to send a registered mail, and REQUEST the complete definition of that thing.....and give them 10 days to answer.....this is COMPLETE bullshit, and this is an IMPORTANT matter.....MFC-295CN Brother Printer is the cheapest printer and so cheap to buy ink for it... :D Lets fucking send registered mail.....fuck them with their non-sense stupid shit.... Sorry, I am high on coffee... :D

It was the arresting officer and I quoted what he wrote ^ up there verbatim.

So, Pete, you are advocating paper terrorism?

"How can i be a CITIZEN, AND a SOVEREIGN at the SAME TIME?" Signed, one of the 4 or so Maxims-of-Law that deal with AN IMPOSSIBILITY

Exactly Derek Moran :D

would that make you an Oxy Moran ? ba boom :D

Now, I received yesterday a letter from QRA asking for PIERRE DAOUST's bank account info in order to deposit MONEY in it.....these idiots wanted to collect 45k from me 5 months ago....they should know by now that I KNOW that this is a fucking trap shot..... THEY WANT ME TO BE ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEE.....to destroy everything I'v said in court.....they want to fucking BUY ME with MONEY

Sorry Chris Schulte...that was off topic... :D

no slight intended Derek lol

S�il Eile would that make you an Oxy Moran ? ba boom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChzRB8h6LU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc

Objection by whose authority do you address me as (sovereign citizen)

hmmmm....this thing says CRIMINAL COMPLAINT. So a CRIMINAL COMPLAINT is "A criminal complaint charges the person named or an unknown person with a particular offense. For example, after the bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, authorities issued a john doe complaint, charging an unknown person or persons with the crime. A criminal complaint must state the facts that constitute the offense and must be supported by Probable Cause. It may be initiated by the victim, a police officer, the district attorney, or another interested party. After the complaint is filed, it is presented to a magistrate, who reviews it to determine whether sufficient cause exists to issue an arrest warrant. If the magistrate determines that the complaint does not state sufficient probable cause, the complaint is rejected and a warrant is not issued. In federal court, the complaint is presented under oath (Fed. R. Crim. P. 3)." Probable Cause is " n. sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime. Probable cause must exist for a law enforcement officer to make an arrest without a warrant, search without a warrant, or seize property in the belief the items were evidence of a crime. While some cases are easy (pistols and illicit drugs in plain sight, gunshots, a suspect running from a liquor store with a clerk screaming "help"), actions typical of drug dealers, burglars, prostitutes, thieves, or people with guilt "written across their faces," are more difficult to categorize. "Probable cause" is often subjective, but if the police officer's belief or even hunch was correct, finding stolen goods, the hidden weapon, or drugs may be claimed as self-fulfilling proof of probable cause. Technically, probable cause has to exist prior to arrest, search or seizure.' A crime is n. a violation of a law in which there is injury to the public or a member of the public and a term in jail or prison, and/or a fine as possible penalties. There is some sentiment for excluding from the "crime" category crimes without victims, such as consensual acts, or violations in which only the perpetrator is hurt or involved such as personal use of illegal drugs.

Please correct me, but if I am faced with a criminal complaint, there must be an injured party, correct? If so, they are MISTAKEN about the surety and they would lack jurisdiction. Is all these people have going for them intimidation and ignorance? FUCK

Yes, intimidation and threat under arms, coercion, and threat of incarceration. That is ALL they have backing them up! They get real excited when you tell them that you have guns and handcuffs, and a cell to lock them in too...!!

If you've commited a CRIME, an INJURED partie is needed... :)