The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Aug 01, 2013 8:51 PM

August le Blanc

This practical example, from our friend down under... there is substance via Adamsky..... although the form is an acquired taste ;-)

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Adam Thomas

I will put something up though for all to ask on soon...I'm just over whelmed by the conversation with scott. ..there's soo much I'm not getting & required viewing is NOW FUCKING REQUIRED IN NEON FUCKING LIGHTS....ALL GOOD THOUGH BRO....PENNY FROP TIME...but I'm not a jew kunt because I choose not to bend over for the time to pick it up....lolll

Adam Thomas

The iNCHOATE INSTRUMENT ACCEPTED FOR VALUE RETURNED COMPLETE. ........SUPRA PROTEST.....Pay the sum certain of one Australian dollar exactly stamp Goes in the middle of instrument where there is plenty of clear white paper.. Underneath that stamp goes the one dollar lawful currency Australian postage stamp UNDERNEATH......Rubber stamp........lick the top of stamp only & attach to instrument....do not stick it fully down as they will need to be able to detach the lawful payment to use again...if they choose to that is.....

Adam Thomas

STAMP DUTY PAID stamp goes on the RIGHT of instrument as the queen is always referred to in the RIGHT of...fapfapfap....the 5c stamp goes on the RIGHT SIDE OF THE FRONT SIDE OF THE INSTRUMENT. Try to keep it in line with the other postage stamp....that being $1. rubber stamp through 5c stamp DIAGONALLY THROUGH...... STAMP DUTY PAID... THEN SIGNATURE THROUGH IT TO FRANK IT OR CANCEL IT OUT....

Adam Thomas

I was slandered & abused by a drunk off her tits woman last night & she worked for the Australia TAX office....she was soooo fucking dumb but she had a degree in accounting & I don't nor will I ever....but she kept fucking ASSUMING & PRESUMING OR PULLING SHIT FROM HER ASS...... She called me a kunt & everything too because I asked questions & presented FACTS.....Stupid dumb whore was screaming at me ' WHO ARE YOU?'....many times she asked & guess what my reply was?? No not that one....I was being so nice & polite too...women shit me when they're drunk....same as most men too. ...she ended up crying her eyes out & blamed me fir het use of tissues....WTF?? Stupid dumb drunk whore that wanted to fuck me but I didn't her & it still continues...she tried to kiss me & I pushed away from her & then she started bawling her head off & calling me a kunt & that she hates me....goid....another fucktatd that will never forget her short but brief encounter with a MAN.....WHORE.....Oh yeh I also told her that she's programmed to deceive & to harm others.....get fucked you brain dead drunken whore....I've taste buds & high morals she desired me & presumed that she had me but I was NOT INTERESTED NOR DESIRED A STINKING DRUNKEN SLUT. ...With NO BRAINS....& HET BREFF STUNK LIKE DOG SHIT TOO....

Adam Thomas

Sit back & larf at the shit party that is now going on because of legal Tender. Tis a shit lovers paradise. Ask them where in the Bills of Exchange Act does it state that toilet paper is no longer to be used as toilet paper to now discharge dags of shit connected to your chocolate starfish??

Adam Thomas

Who's backing who Derek Moran & Pete Daoust.?? Both of ye shpuld call me so I can explain sum of your questions. If not then fall on your own swords. +6100 0458991832. That's for the chicken hearts hiding that need answers as to BoE...if they can NOT understand ENGLISH then that is their problem. I know you get it John but.... Call me anytime lads ok? Pete, I've alteady asked for your phone number but ye refused to hive it. Derek Moran, what's your excuse again?? Oh yeh...I remember sum thing ye said about Admiralty Law not dealing in fractions & my reply was wtf has ADMIRALTY LAW TO DO WITH TRUST LAW?.......AGAIN PLEASE BUT NICE & LOUD THIS TIME SO EVERY ONE CAN UNDERSTAND YE DEREK, except M E of course :-)"

Adam Thomas

Pete Daoust, I don't know what's going on in your world or Derek Moran s world but Mr. Frisbey does have sum knowledge sbout BoE but for sum fucked up reason ye both ignore him & pay out on him.... WHY?? I CARE NOT. BUT...if WE do not BACK each other in this fucking group as a WHOLE then jow the fuck are WE to defeat the ENEMY OF US ALL?? STOP THIS SHIT NOW PLEASE....BOTH OF YE. F U C K!!

Pete Daoust

I go to the mail box.

I open it.

Oppsss�.a Bill of Exchange addressed to PIERRE DAOUST inside the mail box.

I open the envelop.

There is a debt attached to this BoE.

This debt is sent to a person named PIERRE DAOUST.

PIERRE DAOUST is NOT �ME�

PIERRE DAOUST has been created by the Government.

The government is SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST

So as the lawful holder of PIERRE DAOUST I have 2 choices.

1). Buy back this debt and pay for it.

2). Turn this BoE so I can ACCEPT BY:____________, date it, put PIERRE DAOUST�s account number on it�and send it registered mail to the Bank of Canada, because this is where they have to deal with this, because it is the GOVERNMENT�s bank.

No postal stamps involved....I don't UNDERSTAND the postal stamp of $1, and the one of $0.05 cents...

Sirwade Firsbey

This is a fucking contract and your full filling your duties as the beneficiary of the account. top 5 cent stamp is a duty tax stamp paid. placing your seal signature across the that creates jonder with the account of your person. the $1 stamp is lawful currency. meaning you are giving it valuable Confederation. and the some certain total

Adam Thomas

Derek Moran...your turn to feel my vent now.... WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PARROT SCOTT ALL THE GUCKING TIME?? THIS MAKES YOU LOOK & SOUND LIKE A WEASLY LITTLE COCK-SUCKER. ARE YE A COCK-SUCKER? WHY THE FUCK ARE YE ADMIN OF T4LG WHEN YE NEVER EVER LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE OR BACK ANYONE ELSE IN THE GROUP BUT SCOTT... Scott called ye out a while ago & was ready to ban your dumb ass because ye ASSUMED WRONG... I WAS THE VERY FIRST & ONLY PERSON TO BACK YOU UP AMONGST EVERYONE YE CALLED TO H E L P YE DEFEND YOUR ASS....But when Scott, called me out there was NOT ONE SQUEAK OR PEEP FROM YOU DEREK. WHY NOT KUNT?? YOU CONSTANTLY PULL SHIT FROM YOUR ASS & YE DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE IN THIS GROUP. If ye were infront of me right now Derek, I WOULD KICK YOU REAL HARD IN THE NUTS....IF YE HAVE ANY... DO YE THINK YOU'RE SMARTER OR BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS GROUP DEREK? IF SO FUCK OFF. NOW ANSWER ME DEREK PLEASE.

Adam Thomas

I AM sick & fucking tired of the admin in t4lg talking shit all the time pete & not giving anyone else in t4lg any value....it's all just looking like an exercuse in Derek s cock-sucking EGO stroking exercise....I've had it mate....I really have...

Derek Moran

Im curious Adam- that night awhile back you shit-on Derek Hill for calling you a bullshitter, where exactly IN the Australian Bills of Exchange Act does it EXPRESSLY talk about how a BoE is either AMENDABLE and/or NON AMENDABLE? Im having trouble finding where it EXPRESSLY says that...and here, ill make it easy for you:

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2012C00128

August le Blanc

Oy... is not commerce based on Bills? A public notice is a bill, an offer to contract, a tender.... Bills of exchange are at the very heart of the matter. Selling for the sum of a dollar is an old practice. I have bought a number of cars that way... As with law, there may be more than 1 way to accomplish the same end game... fuck.

Adam Thomas

I know of many many blokes from down under that operate through their private trusts.....its something that I have always claimed or should I say never claimed to have done....but on the to do list....right next to kill all lawyers on earth list in first place

Neil Rowe

You have to understand, you are an estate, and the trust already exists, they, the dogs, the practitioners of witchcrat legaleese, have mearly stacked a bunch of shit in the record on top of it to create a presumption from which to fuck you.

Neil Rowe

the trust, or estate, stands in law once you rebut the BS presumptions. Or that how I understand it, with ten years of Etstate, trust and probate law under my bealt stretching back through the midevil and roman law to babylon

Neil Rowe

Derek... You dont have to set up a Trust, or Estate, by their inferior legal rules, as you possess an estate, or rather, you are possessed by an estate, your body and issuance or children being the property of that estate from which trusts may originate, and upon which are they predicated, in law, outside the jurisdiction of witchcraft legalism and legalese.

Neil Rowe

I respond to all government crap, PAUL NEIL ROWE, Estate, correcting them by adding estate to the corperate presumption they attempt to apply and impose on me, and they tend to look for a way out of engaging me further, especially if they get the chance to ask me my name in court, and repond NO, Paul Neil Rowe is not my name, it is a name given me, as property that I possess. And I refuse to plead Not Guilty, a negative that cant be proven, as I am Innocent of any crime, and pleading for me transfers surity to the person pleading.

Neil Rowe

You must come to understand, derek, and Im takin the time cause I like you, that all law originates with the author of the law, the oldest and highest law being trust and estate law, and your right about that. It comes from the old testiment (law), not babylon (legalism)

Derek Moran

You like me?...you know how i feel about people LIKING me- however, The Old Testament is a Fairy-Tale. Golden-Rule, "Do no harm," Anglo-Saxon-Jute common law, i consent to be governed to THAT. Just gotta sort the Birth Certificate out. The definition for DELIVERY is in the BOE i.e. BILL OF LADING - im out, goin' to bed

Neil Rowe

Perhaps, i waste my time, to retort, that the whole system neo, fairy tale or not, is based upon and derived from this ancient system of law, which must be accepted as originating with no man. The birth certificate, is a slave bond. I have one to. But I only serve one master of the two that claim ownership, and the latter falsely claiming to be my master, tends to have to stuff it when the claim is shown to be false.

Neil Rowe

The principle of the thing is what wins out. And if you have no principle upon which to stand, then you have no standing. The are forces beyond what we see, and moving these forces is the key to controling everything

Neil Rowe

Ive heard tell of people doing just that, and taking out a multi milliondollar lean on their own name, and seeing everything and everyone with a lesser claim withdraw and run in retreat. May be a fairy tale, or folklore, or legend. Who can say?

Adam Thomas

Well ok I really am liking this new version of Derek Moran.....a lot o kunt about him now.....this is what is required. ......I did try to deal with this issue 'PRIVATELY' too Derek. ...but ye went 'PUBLIC' instead.....bummer dude......but it gets back to the origin of my vent against ye where ye did say that Scott, said Admiralty does not deal in fractions. Accepted.. TRUST DOES. ACCEPTED. The end result is here we are still.....but a brand new sparkly, shiny, ANGRIER.....HARDER......LEADER OF THE T4LG DEREK MORAN. ACCEPTED. ;-)"

Chris Evan

I still dont get why a buck o five is worth learning about! I have read everything, I have listened and it makes ZERO logical sense and here is why. I am a fucking beneficiary. Why to I need to hide behind Statutory rules (in this case the UPU) in order to make my point????

Adam Thomas

You'll never get it then Chris Schulte.....ye are actually reversing the roles on them with the buck - o - five. ....& discharging debt because it's the only way on earth that debt can be discharged lawfully & legally...certainly not by legal tender.

Adam Thomas

Bill of Exchange is an unconditional ORDER in writing, addressed by one person to another, signed by the person giving it, requiring the person to whom it is addressed to pay on demand or at a fixed & determinable future time, a sum certain in money to or to the order of a specified person or bearer.

Chris Evan

And technically, I am using "legal tender" UNDER DURESS so I can EAT! I get what you are saying though. I have taken that matter VERY deep into the US bureaucracy! We HAVE a remedy for lawful money here! We have 12 USC 411 (the codified language from the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 as amended). We just don't know how to use it!

Blake Gardner

Stamps are simply one of many options to setoff or discharge a debt. They are a tangible form of consideration to the system in that they are backed by the Swiss gold coin (forget the name)...So if you offer the stamped instrument as a tender for said debt and its not returned within 72hrs with a certificate of dishonor or a notice of defect in the instrument it has been accepted and there is discharge. The real question of importance with all these remedies imo then is can you hold them in honor under testing and pressure, coz that's a given:-) and where most seem to crack or go into dishonor/acceptance/consent. Peace.

Chris Evan

mhmmmm.....I comprehend all of that Blake! And have! But my local city collector doesn't even know what BoE is! Pete has been helping me with this. So, how can I educate this woman without all the KUNTS, FAP FAP FAP, etc. How does this boil down into simplicity? Remeber....if it is difficult you are doing it wrong. This seems difficult!

Adam Thomas

The UPU is an incredibly powerful tool they have used against us for a looonngg time $2 G.I. WE USE IT AGAINST THEM TO BIND THEM TO THEIR LEGAL FICTION. It actually holds judges on an incredibly tight leash because if they make the claim it's not legal tender or lawful currency then he pays so he now shuts the fuck up & backs the fuck off & will let the prosecution take the fall for it INSTEAD. If you make a mistake Not one fuck does it matter as all ye do is say sorry for being a real clever kunt & ASK where the mistake was made?? This re sets the clock back in your favour as there's every chance in the book that the majority of your magistrates & County Court judges will not have a fucking clue as to where ye went wrong either... Let them pull shit from their own asses & then watch a judge hang himself. BEAUTIFUL SHIT TO SEE....S I G H .....Yes... I would like to see this...secret fantasy o mine ye could say.....indeed.

Blake Gardner

Yeah Chris, it's not our obligation to inform, explain or play legal council for our adversary, nor is it our problem as its a maxim that every man know the law. We just give them a remedy to their claim whatever that might be and let the paper do the work:-)

Adz - thanks mate, the stones are still slippin & a sliddin...eeeew.

Pete Daoust

This is EXACTLY how I explained it to them Chris Schulte and Blake Gardner, and so far, NOTHING :/

I go to the mail box.

I open it.

Oppsss�.a Bill of Exchange addressed to PIERRE DAOUST inside the mail box.

I open the envelop.

There is a debt attached to this BoE.

This debt is sent to a person named PIERRE DAOUST.

PIERRE DAOUST is NOT �ME�

PIERRE DAOUST has been created by the Government.

The government is SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST

So as the lawful holder of PIERRE DAOUST I have 2 choices.

1). Buy back this debt and pay for it.

2). Turn this BoE so I can ACCEPT BY:____________, date it, put PIERRE DAOUST�s account number on it�and send it registered mail to the Bank of Canada, because this is where they have to deal with this, because it is the GOVERNMENT�s bank.

Sirwade Firsbey

sin/ssn is an account of our estate. JOHN WADE FRISBEY. Is our benificiary account. Which we are the first principle holder in due course of that account. If I was to write a check from a bank account that I had in my name would that not be accepted as the lawful tender.? Through the power of attorney that we hold for set up account we take the payment coupon voucher remittance and we drafted into a currency of a species of money called the bill of exchange.

Pete Daoust

My INTENT, is to know ALL methods available for PIERRE DAOUST, the person, to discharge debts sent to PIERRE DAOUST the person....I make it clear on ALL communications I have with EVERYONE......I am NOT looking for free rides, I am seeking the truth, that's all....

Chris Evan

OK....I have read the Social Security Act in its ENTIRETY and I have scanned Title 42 of the US Code. NOWHERE did I see any evidence that the SSN is an account number of our estate....NOWHERE. Can you show me evidence of where the number THEY created is an account number for ANYTHING besides "FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS"?

Pete Daoust

In my FOURTH letter, asking Hydro-Quebec on HOW to deal with this, and asking them to explaine EVERYTHING to me, I pointed the fact that I was really deceived, because of their COMPLETE SILENCE, regarding my request on REMITTANCE ADVICES.....I am telling them ALL THE TRUTH, and they don't even dare answering me.....I have all the proofs that I am acting in good faith, and I have ALL the proofs, that they don't act in good faith...

Pete Daoust

It comes to a point Chris that WHAT THEY WANT is not really my problem, What I WANT is my problem.....and by LEARNING in here on a daily basis, I come to know exactly what I want......I WANT THE FUCKING TRUTH :D

Adam Thomas

Heres what ye should write in red ink on your water bill everyone. @ top of bill where your name is write these words: acknowledged offer to contract between named parties herein a statement of transaction between them. Then initial in either red or blue.

Chris Evan

Frisbey. I am simply asking you to show me IN THEIR FUCKING LAW where the SSN is defined as an account number for your ESTATE. Or maybe it is some other form that we filled out making the law, IDK. But it is a simple question.

Adam Thomas

Where the sum certain payable is for amount owing in bottom right corner if INCHOATE instrument write in red ink: Accepted amount payable to expressly write in yiur own figure & be generous with your tips so give them an extra $100. Exactly.

Chris Evan

I get what you are doing is creating a lawful specie of money. I have a bunch of parts in front of me, but I can't figure out what connects to what and why and how this fucking thing is gonna work when I put it together.....

Adam Thomas

Turn bill over onto back then rubber stamp it on payout part which is bottom of instrument rubber stamp it ACCEPTED AS INDORSED. Initial it. If you've got rubber stamps then rubber stamp on very bottom right of instrument: SEE OVER FOR INDORSEMEMTS.

Sirwade Firsbey

let's say you guys had a bank account that was a checking account and you wrote a check and send it off to pay that bill and the company that you paid the bill then now is that check cashed it and then try to charge you again for the same bill what would you do?

August le Blanc

Chris Schulte I do not know this for sure but when one of your presidents around 1933 brought in the new deal... entitling citizens to social security or old age pensions... The same time we in canada were given Social Insurance... The whole world was then switched to a human resource based economy... It is a federal account which payments are transferred thru... Is a simple as I know...

August le Blanc

The lien keeps them in their rightful place as holders of the trust created at birth, so we benefit, the lien ensures we benefit without the liability, which is kept at a distance thru the proxy of the corporation.. So what if it is theirs. Chris Schulte We have cut off a source of revenue to them. With B O E and Notice of mistake, New originals and such we take control of our destinies. And the law you are looking for is probably hidden in some unrelated act or Statute, Much like the definition of Canada is in the Ocean's Act... And the only mention I can find so far about the consolidated revenue fund....

August le Blanc

It is probably under tax statutes somewhere.... which in canada have never been ratified by parliament... not ratified no law... I think it is bill c-130 or something like that... So there is no law about the SIN number, that is what we are remedying ... that is why it is hard to find.

August le Blanc

um, Scott has stated these ideas in a few threads. Chris Schulte, The Birth Certificate is an account, The SIN is an account... It's All Accounting.... so B O E is the tool to use in accounting.... All documents, Notice of mistake, New originals are related to BILLING... Charges.... Discharges.. Settling of accounts, that is all this is... Merchant Law....

Chris Evan

I just cannot grasp these concepts. They are so strange! I am curious HOW we came up with them. i don't question and never have whether they work or not because there is a LOT of evidence they do. I am interested in WHY and HOW it works. No one can answer me.....

August le Blanc

It is all part of the noble lie Chris Schulte... our programming gets in the way... the simplicity often eludes us... we have to much stuff in the way... They sneakily contract with us when we do not know any better, first job ... you need this number to work. duh ok.. In the files is the Bill of exchange book, read that it will help...

Pete Daoust

Last question sent July 17th 2013

Good Morning Mr. Flaherty

I am in a process of educating myself on WHO I am, I�ve been studying the subject for almost 2 years now, and INVESTED 2 to 3 hours a day, and I take it VERY seriously, after being literally attacked by Revenu Quebec Agency, I�ve made that decision that I will know EVERYTHING I need to know about ME, I mean EVERYTHING.

And, according to my studies, YOU have the position of M.P. Minister of Finance in Canada to serve ME, and other people in Canada.

If ever I�m wrong, just let me know and I will never contact you again.

So I have one and only one question for you.

According to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms article 7.

7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice. So MY QUESTION TO YOU IS: What is the Security of the Person ? Thanks in advance for your answer, I do recognize and fully accept your OATH of office. Pierre Daoust ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

Chris Evan

Frisbey, if you are operating under a SSN or BC, you aren't a king. if you lien it, you still aren't a king. A king doesn't operate under his own set of rules. He operates above them. Stop parrotting and start thinking!

Sirwade Firsbey

and the reason I say this is in America it is against the law to hold the title of nobility but it is not against the law to hold the title of chief executive acting officer of the hive corporation professional business man

August le Blanc

I think, there is a misunderstanding, I do not think Frisbey is a Parrot. I think he is answering in regards to B O E, but the details got you bogged down... He is trying to explain the power of B O E, all of the stamps are accounting instruments... It is all accounting... The why is because they could until we educated ourselves... The SIN is an account... simple. Where can I find the info to back it up... Here on one of these hundreds of threads...

August le Blanc

ah...ok I read something the other day on this... The old age benefits have been called social security as well... The name may have changed but the INTENT is still the same... bend over, where to find the exact estate law.. hmmm... I think the trail would start at what happens when your vessel expires and your accounts and estate are then property of the state until you WILL it somewhere else...

August le Blanc

some of us have already been burnt... Trust law insulates us from the fire, while juggling... Finish your thing, take the action, know why you are taking the action... to be king of your own domain, for me that is my SELF

Neil Rowe

Little tip. In trust law, every man is an Estate. The estate is granted by god. When a man dies, if he is a pauper with no assets, his estate would be probated by his foot print or finger prints on a death certificate. So the government lawyers got creative in the 30s, when they came up with a way to probate your estate, at birth.

August le Blanc

The law that makes the SSN/SIN a force is the contract that was signed when you consented to contract with the Gubbint at the early age with first employment (because we are told, that is the way it is), as a rule to be part of the society... so we created joinder by signing away our rights with our seal.... We are now re-claiming our value... Chris Schulte

Pete Daoust

KING. The chief magistrate of a kingdom, vested usually with the executive power. 2. The following table of the reigns of English and British kings and queens, commencing with the Reports, is added, to assist the student in many points of chronology.

Accession. Henry III................ 1216 Edward I................. 1272 Edward II................ 1307 Edward III............... 1307 Richard II............... 1377 Henry IV................. 1399 Henry V.................. 1413 Henry VI................. 1422 Edward IV................ 1461 Edward V................. 1483 Richard III.............. 1483 Henry VII................ 1485 Henry VIII............... 1509 Edward VI................ 1547 Mary..................... 1553 Elizabeth................ 1558 James I.................. 1603 Charles I................ 1625 Charles II............... 1660 James II................. 1685 William III.............. 1689 Anne..................... 1702 George I................. 1714 George II................ 1727 George III............... 1760 George IV................ 1820 William IV............... 1830

Neil Rowe

The social security administration, is something called a Ton Tine wagering scheme, outlawed in the 1700, along with insurance, of all kinds. Insurance was considered immoral and unlawful. Nothing has ever made it lawful. You didnt knowingly, willingly, and intentionally establish a slave bond (BC), or join the SSA as a consenting adult, so theyre void.

Chris Evan

Thats what I thought Jason. I was pretty sure of it. Now, the only party in the government that I am aware of giving that number to in order to create an account was the IRS. I am pretty sure I am not the beneficiary in that system/contract. So my question remains to Frisbey.....how is the SSN the number to your estate? not your IRS account number, your estate?

August le Blanc

The SSN is the account of your estate in the federal domain.. it is the account attached to your estate. Tax law has been under the gun for a while... Every time you used it as part of your IDENTIFICATION

Neil Rowe

My understanding of the SSA, is that its not an estate, its a trust, merely a contract, you pay in, everybody pays in, tribute and contribution as though theyve joined a religious cult, and whover out lives the rest, can collect. as I said, such schemes were unlawful a very long time ago.

Neil Rowe

A ton tine wagering scheme operates similar to a trust, but its unlawful, so they like to call it a trust when put under the magnifying glass, and this is where all this trust talks come from. In a sense, it is a defacto trust, your trusting them to pay you your money back, even though its not garenteed, and they are not required to, except at their descretion.

Chris Evan

I cancelled that contract ab initio! That is why I am so concerned about this SSN stuff. But, it isn't my SSN, it is the account number I gave these OTHER contracts to identify me as. See....thats where my confusion was!

Derek Moran

Adam Thomas: The end result is here we are still.....but a brand new sparkly, shiny, ANGRIER.....HARDER......LEADER OF THE T4LG DEREK MORAN. ACCEPTED. NOTICE

No CONTRACT, was ever OFFERED, for Adam Thomas to ACCEPT. And im not gettin' into this petty-grade-school-bullshit again today. USELESS CONTENT will be deleted IMMEDIATELY - that means no "LOL," no winky-smiley faces, no fucking MUSIC-VIDEOS, if Jason F. LeBlanc wants to learn more about how a NOTICE is somehow a BILL OF EXCHANGE TOO, then he will GODDAMMIT - cuz SO DO I!

That is all- and FUCK OFF if you dont like it.

Neil Rowe

Because I wrote my own license to practice law, and can disqualify any judge all the way to the supreme court. I know what happens on the private side of the court. You guys are all worried about what happens on the public side, and not what you dont see. And ive started training others to over turn the tables of the money changers at the judgement seat inside their temples to mamom. I can shut down court houses and cases enough to drive them out of business

Neil Rowe

I currently have two local judges facing federal court for racketeering charges of running KIDS for Cash protection raquets in family court, and its what they do every where, and two false arrest cases completely separate from those for damages, and I cant be beat. And they know Ive figured out how to duplicate these cases every where by the thousands. I suppose Im asking for it

Neil Rowe

And they have nothing to do with me. Im representing people, giving legal advice, advertising my law practice, and ive estoppled them from charging me with unlicenced practice. Thats a pretty tall order, wouldnt you say?

Derek Moran

Pierre- did the 'Mr. Flaherty' answer that letter? Probably not. After 30 days, he hasnt done in his job, its safe to assume he's now created a CONTROVERSY by NOT answering your question. NOW its time to send NOTICE FOR FULL-DISCLOSURE:

"I require-request-and wish for FULL-DISCLOSURE on....."

Neil Rowe

derek. You dont have to sound like that. you simply make it known that you conditionally except upon full disclosure of all hidden terms and conditions, clarification of terms and definitions. You can make it really complex, or simple, and then just get more complicated if they dont understand. You musnt get in your own way with details. Thats wha they want.

Neil Rowe

I move and direct the trustee of the court, movant's fiduciary, and he moves as i tell him to, cause ive already established the difference between acting in a judicial capacity, in law, and acting in an administrative capacity outside immunity in their private person, in leagality. I sit on the judges chest and take his pulse, smiling at him. If you have to ask, and beg, because you dont know what his limitations are, then he is sitting on you, and you are under him.

Neil Rowe

You will never know this power, little ones, until God has admitted and licenced you to exercise this power, which comes from understanding the source of the natural law, from which all other law is derived and originates.

Neil Rowe

theres electricty, magnetic and spiritual forces in the air around you, and you can direct them, if you understand them, if you dont, its like the karate kids master said " martial arts like crossing the street. either you know or you dont know, and if you dont know, and you cross the street.... what the HELL DID HE SAY?

Neil Rowe

Daniel-san, must talk. [they both kneel] Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, [makes squish gesture] get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", [makes squish gesture] just like grape. Understand?

Neil Rowe

Look here Who-are You Frisbey, even the laws of phisics break down into nonsence, einstien discovered, when they reach the wall of the singularity. There is a single inteligent cause behind the effect and the fabic of the universe, that changes the rules like a rubic cube fighting back.

August le Blanc

A Public Notice, is a tender for law... IT IS AN OFFER TO CONTRACT, Derek Moran, If they do any unauthorized action, according to notice, they are subject to charges in the form of an invoice, which when dishonoured can be liened, it falls under a broad category of B O E.... It becomes a bill of exchange when it is made public... You break the terms you are subject to surety...

Neil Rowe

"ye are all gods, are ye not?" all are gods of something, because you have been given dominion over something. Have no illusion, many things attempt to have dominion over you, and ultimately, you will chose one master, or reamin confused sitting on the fence

Neil Rowe

the only thing I have mastery over as my domain, is that which goes on in my head, the rest is a roll of the dice, and i dont even have exclusive dominion there, cause I know there are strangers in their, like an angel and a demon sitting on either shoulder

August le Blanc

I am the creator , Grantor, Settlor of all the TRUSTS Accounts, with emphasis on do no harm to humans that do not men me harm, self defence is acceptable. There are outside forces sure, I do not consent, to to any business not of my choosing...

Neil Rowe

If there is nothing greater than you, then you have no protection, and no source outside yourself to draw upon. I allow another power, greater than me, to work through me, casting out and expelling demons with the power of the word, and I watch spirits depart from people who shrivel up like cursed trees.

August le Blanc

There is a question on the table Paul Rowe, could you expLain the statement... "If there is nothing greater than you, then you have no protection, and no source outside yourself to draw upon. I allow another power, greater than me, to work through me, casting out and expelling demons with the power of the word, and I watch spirits depart from people who shrivel up like cursed trees."

Neil Rowe

Check this out, and this is from experience, if you claim to be an estate, a judge will ask you Who granted you an estate (as if you own the estate). If you answer anything other than the creator, or god, he will rip you to shreds. Estate law dictates, estates are granted, created, and established, by your father, and his father, all the way back to the creater who established the first estate and trust.

Derek Moran

"Paul Rowe: You will never know this power, little ones, until God has admitted and licenced you to exercise this power, which comes from understanding the source of the natural law, from which all other law is derived and originates."

..uhh- so yeah, what will happen when Scott Duncan catches on that you are talking like this in his group is give you a stern-warning first, then just flat-out ban you if you continue, Paul Rowe

So dont say nobody tried to warn you...

Neil Rowe

the executor is property of the estate. The servant is not greater than the master. If you claim no master, one will be appointed for you. The ashkanazi jews, who werent really jewish, but needed a religion as political cover understood this

August le Blanc

The property is still theirs I have just hijacked it the way it was hijacked from me... To the best of my KNOWLEDGE, there is no GOD. Except as an Imaginary Friend Created in a book of fables we currently base our legal system on. So Mythology is god... not any tangible thing at all.

Derek Moran

My take on 'The Creator,' in terms of LAW is - who CREATED government? MAN did. Hence- 'The Creator' being spoken about, is actually US!

CANADIAN BILL OF RIGHTS

(...the Canadian Nation is founded upon principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God)...AND...(the rule of law);

CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize (the supremacy of God) AND (the rule of law):

..my favourite character in this movie is- 'The Scar(es)crow'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yejtZgzB5Ik

Pete Daoust

OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ?

The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say)

Is that make sense ?

Neil Rowe

Heres a skelaton key, to all american law. I gotta get back to work. Later.

THAT "All acts of legislature apparently contrary to natural right and justice are, in our laws and must be in the nature of things, considered as void. The laws of nature are the laws of God; whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth. A legislature must not obstruct our obedience to him from whose punishments they cannot protect us. All human constitutions which contradict his laws, we are in conscience bound to disobey. Such have been the adjudications of our courts of justice." (Robin v. Hardaway, 1 Jefferson 109, 114 (1772)). Here are two: 1.) "This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this; ... upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these" � William Blackstone, The Commentaries of the Law of England, Volume I, "Of the Rights of Persons," at 41 (1765); and 2.) �The institutions of our society are founded on the belief that there is an authority higher than the authority of the State; that there is a moral law which the State is powerless to alter; that the individual possesses rights, conferred by the Creator, which government must respect. The Declaration of Independence stated the now familiar theme: �We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.� And the body of the Constitution as well as the Bill of Rights enshrined those principles.� McGowan v. Maryland, 366 US 420, 563, Supreme Court (1961). Both of these are found in Glassroth v. Moore, 229 F. Supp. 2d 1290 - Dist. Court, MD Alabama 2002 describing the inscriptions on the removed monument. "The essence of our free Government is "leave to live by no man's leave, underneath the law"�to be governed by those impersonal forces which we call law. Our Government is fashioned to fulfill this concept so far as humanly possible. The Executive, except for recommendation and veto, has no legislative power." Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 US 579, 655, Supreme Court (1952).

Pete Daoust

OK....lets do it again....

OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say)

Is that make sense ?

So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?...

My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ?

By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?

Sirwade Firsbey

that document the birth certificate was created by man and women just like you and me. once I file a lien on the property because nobody can sing John Wade frisbey .on the property of the trust which is held by hive corporation I don't have to believe in a sky dady for that so stop spreading the bullshit

Pete Daoust

OK....lets do it again....

OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say)

Is that make sense ?

So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?...

My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ?

By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?

Chris Evan

I am back....logically, I see Pete 's way. I don't see why we would have to stamp these things and do this, and fluff this....I don't get it. I do think Jason is right that we should Notorially default them on it too....

August le Blanc

honestly Pete Daoust I do not know, it appears right... I was referring to collecting on a lien... but it seems that 3 times notice followed with a default is standard operating procedure, regardless if it 72 hours or whatever, with a TRUST... If one doesn't hear back it is consent by silence...

August le Blanc

The Bill Of Exchange way eliminates debt ( all the stamps, it is more than just fluff... fuck)... our goal is to take the debt out of the banks hands, by doing a B O E we actually discharge debt.... it ceases to exist... diminishing the hold the banks have on everyone...one step further... crypto-currency....

Pete Daoust

So I can either buy back that debt, and send a check or..........

OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say)

Is that make sense ?

So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?...

My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ?

By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?

August le Blanc

No, I think a better way is to not want to buy back the debt but to want to discharge the debt.... The accepted for value way moves the debt.... All the stamps on a document do is keep it out of the banks hands and discharge the debt into nothing ness... for $1.05

Gail Marie

ok just so i`m clear...My dentist bill has his stamp on it...I signed the back, dated it and put my SIN on it....it`s been almost a month and no response at all....should I send a notice to them to them confirming their receipt of my signed bill and set a term of 30 days for a check to be issued to my dentist?

Sirwade Firsbey

if I go to the gas station give them money are they going to come after me? the same thing you're giving them lawful currency which is a species of money it's not legal tender but its lawful currency that's all.

Gail Marie

when this was brought up (about my dentist bill) in an earlier post , Derek Moran mentioned that the bank of canada was the only institution that could create money from our signature or valuable consideration...which was liked by scott

August le Blanc

Well it may be part of the TRUST that was created way back by the Gov't. King George III Proclamation of 1763 as an agreement to see to our fundamental needs by creating a account to cover our costs in exchange for exploiting our natural resources. Except we do not have the benefit of that due to our trustee status... so we have to make them.

Pete Daoust

Well....ask the dentist or anyone to send a BILL to:

GAIL BLACKMAN SIN No.___________ Inscription No.__________ Address

and THAT bill should be considered being sent to the PERSON you have in your pocket, which has a SURETY with Bank of Canada, and is a PUBLIC NAME.

Sirwade Firsbey

See he didn't complete the document he the owner of his company and they're happy two signatures on it to become lawful currency coming to do it again and that you're send it in again but you just need a signature it it makes it money he thinks he's going to get in trouble or something when you're taking on the responsibility of the beneficiary

Sirwade Firsbey

Plus you can also file a claim in the newspaper that. Doing a proper public notice file a lien and then default judgement on it and then have the sheriff go to the Bank of Canada and receive the funds to pay the doctor

August le Blanc

if she said, I will get the work done as long as it is covered by insurance, before the work was done, the insurance company said it didn't cover due to maximums reached.... both parties assumed that everything was cool.... The dentist as part of his due diligence should have checked, The liable party for the work shifted due to this error... So assuming coverage was in place both parties are responsible to some extent..

David Johansen

i have proof frisbey, but it is impossible for me to explain it to you unless you were actually there at the time when i could have explained it and have that make sense. merely coincidences of serendipity.

Chris Evan

No No Adam, Frisbey had his chance. I know American law! I may not get BoE's. I may not get buck o fives, but I certainly know American law, American history, the story of the enslavement of the sovereigns, and history of currency in America. I am no expert, but I am no novice. Frisbey has displayed to me complete ignorance of it. I have nothing left to say. Frisbey, I hope the Notice of Mistake does everything you think it will!

Sirwade Firsbey

Gail Blackman ok so for everyone`s benefit I`ll post the definitions I found... ACCEPTANCE, n. (16c) 1. An offeree's assent, either by express act or by implication from conduct, to the terms of an offer in a manner authorized or requested by the offeror, so that a binding contract is formed.� If an acceptance modifies the terms or adds new ones, it generally operates as a counteroffer

Sirwade Firsbey

AS(as), n. [Latin]l. Roman law. A pound weight or a coin weighing a pound, divisible into 12 parts, called unciae. � As and the multiples of its unciae were used to denote interest rates. See UNCIA. 2. Roman & civil law. A whole inheritance; the whole of an asset. PI. asses. INDORSE, vb. (16c) To sign (a negotiable instrument), usu. on the back. either to accept responsibility for paying an obligation memorialized by the instrument or to make the instrument payable to someone other than the payee. Also spelled endorse. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago

Sirwade Firsbey

Gail Blackman INCHOATE INSTRUMENT. (1834) An unrecorded instrument that must, by law, be recorded to serve as effective notice to third parties .� Until the instrument is recorded, it is effective only between the parties to the instrument. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman RETURN, n. (ISc) 1. A court officer's bringing back of an instrument to the court that issued it; RETURN OF WRIT <a sheriff's return of citation>. [Cases: Execution C=>330-347.] 2. A court officer's indorsement on an instrument brought back to the court, reporting what the officer did or found <a return of nulla bona>. See FALSE RETURN (1). COMPLETE in itself, adj. (I8c) (Of a legislative act) fully covering an entire subject Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago

Sirwade Firsbey

Gail Blackman STAMP DUTY. Hist. A tax raised by requiring stamps sold by the government to be affixed to designated documents, thus forming part of the perpetual revenue. See stamp tax under TAX. [Cases: Internal Revenue 4390-4409; Taxation (;::2218.] "A fifth branch of the perpetual revenue consists in the stamp duties, which are a tax imposed upon all parch� ment and paper whereon any legal proceedings, or private instruments of almost any nature whatsoever, are written: and also upon licenses ... and pamphlets containing less than six sheets of paper. These imposts are very various, according to the nature of the thing stamped, rising gradu� ally from a penny to ten pounds: 1 William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 312-13

Sirwade Firsbey

Gail Blackman WITHOUT RECOURSE (I8c) (In an indorsement) without liability to subsequent holders.� With this stipulation, one who indorses an instrument indicates that he or she has no further liability to any subsequent holder for payment. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman NEGOTIABLE, ad). (18c) 1. (Of a written instrument) capable of being transferred by delivery or indorsement when the transferee takes the instrument for value, in good faith, and without notice of conflicting title claims or defenses. [Cases: Bills and Notes ~144.]2. (Of a deal, agreement, etc.) capable ofbeing accomplished. 3. (Of a price or deal) subject to further bargaining and possible change. NON(non). [Latin] (l4c) Not; no.� This term negates, sometimes as a separate word and sometimes as a prefix. TRANSFER, n. (14c) 1. Any mode of disposing of or parting with an asset or an interest in an asset, including a gift, the payment of money, release, lease, or creation of a lien or other encumbrance .� The term embraces every method - direct or indirect, absolute or conditional, voluntary or involuntary - of disposing ofor parting with property or with an interest in property, including retention of title as a security interest and foreclosure of the debtor's equity of redemption. 2. Negotiation of an instrument according to the forms oflaw .� The four methods of transfer are by indorsement, by delivery, by assignment, and by operation oflaw. [Cases: Bills and Notes C=::> 176-222.] 3. A conveyance of property or title from one person to another. [ Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago

Sirwade Firsbey

Gail Blackman SUPRA PROTESTt. (Of a debt) under protest. See PROTEST PROTEST, n. (ISc) . 3. A formal statement, usu. in writing, disputing a debt's legality or validity but agreeing to make payment while reserving the right to recover the amount at a later time .� The disputed debt is described as under protest. Edited � Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman OFFEROR (ah-f<'lr-or). (1882) One who makes an offer. Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman OFFEREE (ah-f;lr-ee). (1882) One to whom an offer is made. Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago

Sirwade Firsbey

It's all about accounting and these are the stamps. What a mother fucker puts on different caps . What damn Papa Tony the next time a king. I'll even play at jester if you know what I mean. So you can take all that bullshit back to Boston if you know what I mean.

Adam Thomas

Boston boys hey...David David Johansen, where you from again please mate....careful though as that other krazy yank kunt called Mr frisbey, has the buzz button & tingle tingle stick coz he's a crazy muthafucka ...oh...wait a minute...did I just do a Derek & say thay sjit out loud in PUBLIC......HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA WOOOHOO....PARTY TIME KUN.........

Adam Thomas

Youve got tjis John. ..covered with Gail Blackman very nicely....it's easy over the phone though...actually talking & hearing & connecting between a few in the group already & it's GROUSE....LOOK THAT WORD UP....

Adam Thomas

I'd like to chat to you Dave. ..what say ye? Derek Moron, turned jis nose up at my request to communicate via telephone. ...and look at the shit he did after he ignored my request....sigh....yep...loooonng reach from this MAN downunder Dave. ..hahahahahahahahahaha

Sirwade Firsbey

We spoke it in bloody English Adam What did they want. The Stamp Act accounting act the Bills of Exchange Act there's many acts that were using for the Bills of Exchange Act letters of credit notes bonds securities very many different species of money

Derek Moran

Dory Alexander- please report to this thread, all your questions on why Adam Thomas is no longer part of this page will be answered by yourself...then- you can move onto demanding from Scott on just why Who-Are-You Frisbey isnt either anymore(NOT my doing, he was HONOURABLE in his contracts) and/or, DEMAND to know from Kate Butler why Leigh Collins is no longer a part of this page also

Signed, "The ROCK SAYS....."

Derek Moran

No- not you Kate, i deleted it out of anger, but...Dory Alexander had posted a comment- "demanding to fucking know from me" why Adam got banned, and, "dont send me an explanation by private-message, post it publicly in the FORUM"....*sighs, stares at the computer screen, blinks* I remember a time when people came on here everyday just to soak-up as much from Scott as they could - now.......

Signed, 'As The Tender For Law Turns'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbwVYg93Ccg

Derek Moran

No Dory, nobody ever accused Adam Thomas of being a cheat. Just a dick. Read what he wrote. OH - and for all of you Adam Thomas fans, he is currently trying to foul ChiefRock's page by encouraging Paul Rowe to join it also based on all the VALUE Paul Rowe brought to The Tender For Law while he was here.

Reminder...Scott banned Paul Rowe for pushing the OPPT, AND, God and/or Jesus and/or The Bible on here.

Sincerely, RES IPSA LOQUITOR and/or CONSIDER THE SOURCE and/or TRUE COLOURS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8

Derek Moran

"Why you had to?"

A: you're being deliberately obtuse, Dory Alexander

B: you're showing reckless indifference towards reading the thread

C: you're exhibiting wilfull blindness towards reading the thread

D: you havent read the thread

E: all of the above

Derek Moran

You know what, Dory Alexander - once Scott Duncan is finished taking his Paul Rowe-induced shower...why dont you ask him yourself if he wants someone on his page who ADVOCATES-by-association OPPT/Bible/Jesus/God/bullshit-talk?

(from ChiefRock's page) Adam Thomas: Is Paul Rowe, a member here?? If not he should be because he has a lot of great knowledge that he shared in the t4lg. Join in Paul.

Jeff Roggers

Q. What is a Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure and why do I need to use one? A. A Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure is correct procedure and therefore gives the Affiant uncompromised standing. There may be a very genuine reason why the Respondent couldn�t respond; maybe a death in the family, maybe they were hospitalized etc. So you are saying, �just in case there is a genuine reason why you couldn�t respond I am kindly granting you a further three (3) days to respond. You are being nice, and so you should be, as you want to stay honourable at ALL times.

Jeff Roggers

Q. Can the Respondent just return it? A. Yes, but then they haven�t responded to the points raised so they are instantly at fault, so you can continue with the Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure due to non response. Damned if they do and damned if they don�t springs to mind

Jeff Roggers

when DTE Energy fails to acknowledge the contract completed. I use that administration procedures to default on them. bring it back to the point of the bill of exchange and getting it discharged properly. because DTE Energy has been found and dishonor

Jeff Roggers

in the notice of fault that I send them Which claims that they must rebutt point for point. such as why did they not get back with me in 72 hours? if they do not accept that for my payment why did they not send me back my wet stamp ink bill of exchange?

Jeff Roggers

it is just the administration procedures process that I must follow to stay in honor so that when I file my lean on that that they must satisfy the lien of the Negotiable Instruments before demanding any payment thereof

Pete Daoust

January 8th 2013. I received a NOTICE from Hydro-Quebec saying that they will cut the service if I don�t pay in the next 7 days.

The next day, I sent them a letter telling them I was scared, I don�t have BANK NOTES, and no access to it, and ask if there was ANY other payment method available to PIERRE DAOUST concerning that debt. I also offer to wash windows in exchange for electricity. NO ANSWER, but PIERRE DAOUST has been removed from collection, and no more threats to cut service.

May 11th 2013 Same Scenario, I receive a BoE with threats attached to it�.I send back the same exact letter, specifying that this was the 2nd request from me. NO ANSWER, but again, PIERRE DAOUST is removed from collection and no more threats.

July 8th 2013. Same thing�.another BoE with threats, Now I send another letter specifying that The BoE act say that they HAVE to inform me on ALL method available, and I insist on the fact that this is the 3rd REQUEST I make, �.

NO ANSWER, but PIERRE DAOUST has been removed from collection, and no more threats to cut service. :D

August the 6th 2013. Another freaking BoE with a $3800.00 amount on it :D Now, I send them a letter telling them that I am very desapointed of their complete silence, and I discharge this debt through the Bank of Canada..bla bla bla�. I inform them of what I do, and give the FULL explanations on WHY and HOW I do this�. I insist on the fact that this is the 4th communication I send them, and they still stay in complete silence�.

Today, September the 14th�NONE A SOUND from either Bank of Canada and/or Hydro-Quebec.

Jeff Roggers

Home Ar ti cl e s DTE Energy Company (DTE) EVP/CFO David E Meador sells 17,762 Shares By insider - 1 year ago About DTE EVP/CFO of DTE Energy Company (DTE) David E Meador sells 17,762 shares of DTE on 02/28/2012 at an average price

Jeff Roggers

Question did you or did you not agree to obey the laws of Commercial laws of Commerce when you accepted the Charter? If their response is no one there a fraudulent company if their response is yes then they are still in Dishonored of the contract

Jeff Roggers

well after I had called them two or three times they took that information and now see that I am correct about the law that I am talking about and that they are acting in fraud and didn't know how did then take care of it the way I was telling him to take care of it

Jeff Roggers

the person I was talking to today must have been a lawyer because he kept on asking legal questions which I kept remind him that the company that he works for is a chartered company and the contract began there are they fraudulent are legitimate business

Jeff Roggers

well today another lawyer called me and said the last thing he was talking about was sending me more shut off notices if I was wrong and he was right why would they just shut off my power why would they have to go to the notice process anybody anybody???

Jeff Roggers

in the country of the United States of America I hear everybody b**** about borrowing money from another country well do you know how they do that they use our bill payment remittances to get the loans with.