Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 02, 2013 3:36 AM
Adam Thomas now step by step where do we place the stamp on the remittance bill of exchange. Exactly where does each one go.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 02, 2013 5:33 AM
see how it is on the paper copy that on the remittance


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 02, 2013 6:35 AM
but right side up


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 02, 2013 6:36 AM
duty stamp paid is diagonal across a 5 cent stamp


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Adam Thomas

Aug 02, 2013 11:15 AM
I will put something up though for all to ask on soon...I'm just over whelmed by the conversation with scott. ..there's soo much I'm not getting & required viewing is NOW FUCKING REQUIRED IN NEON FUCKING LIGHTS....ALL GOOD THOUGH BRO....PENNY FROP TIME...but I'm not a jew kunt because I choose not to bend over for the time to pick it up....lolll


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Adam Thomas

Aug 02, 2013 11:29 AM
Thanks for your valuable time tiday too Scott. From The muddle headed Wombat.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 5:18 AM
ACCEPTED AS INDORSED stamp goes on the BACK of Bill where they tear off the voucher.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 5:19 AM
SEE OVER FOR INDORSMENTS stamp goes on the very bottom of Bill to tell them kunts to turn it over & LOOK on the BACK....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 5:27 AM
Keep going Adam step by step. Or I should say stamps by stamps


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:02 AM
NOT NEGOTIABLE NOT TRANSFERRABLE WITHOUT RECOURSE stamp goes in the top left hand corner of instrument DIAGONALLY...


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:12 AM
The iNCHOATE INSTRUMENT ACCEPTED FOR VALUE RETURNED COMPLETE. ........SUPRA PROTEST.....Pay the sum certain of one Australian dollar exactly stamp Goes in the middle of instrument where there is plenty of clear white paper.. Underneath that stamp goes the one dollar lawful currency Australian postage stamp UNDERNEATH......Rubber stamp........lick the top of stamp only & attach to instrument....do not stick it fully down as they will need to be able to detach the lawful payment to use again...if they choose to that is.....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 6:14 AM
I think that's my favorite stamp because they can't send it off to a collection agency with that one. the non-negotiable not transferable 1


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:20 AM
STAMP DUTY PAID stamp goes on the RIGHT of instrument as the queen is always referred to in the RIGHT of...fapfapfap....the 5c stamp goes on the RIGHT SIDE OF THE FRONT SIDE OF THE INSTRUMENT. Try to keep it in line with the other postage stamp....that being $1. rubber stamp through 5c stamp DIAGONALLY THROUGH...... STAMP DUTY PAID... THEN SIGNATURE THROUGH IT TO FRANK IT OR CANCEL IT OUT....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:24 AM
The CROWN & YOU HAVE NOW CREATED JOINDER TO THE VALUABLE INSTRUMENT. ...With the stamp duty paid stamp.. ACT on their ACTS...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 6:30 AM
just a little assist Adam if you're from Canada change out the word Australia with Canada /a


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:33 AM
Correct john....or whatever cuntree your from


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:36 AM
Remember that maxim of law too lads... As it is written so shall it be done....WRITTEN MEANS JUST THAT....WRITTEN....NOT TYPED......


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 6:59 AM
I was slandered & abused by a drunk off her tits woman last night & she worked for the Australia TAX office....she was soooo fucking dumb but she had a degree in accounting & I don't nor will I ever....but she kept fucking ASSUMING & PRESUMING OR PULLING SHIT FROM HER ASS...... She called me a kunt & everything too because I asked questions & presented FACTS.....Stupid dumb whore was screaming at me ' WHO ARE YOU?'....many times she asked & guess what my reply was?? No not that one....I was being so nice & polite too...women shit me when they're drunk....same as most men too. ...she ended up crying her eyes out & blamed me fir het use of tissues....WTF?? Stupid dumb drunk whore that wanted to fuck me but I didn't her & it still continues...she tried to kiss me & I pushed away from her & then she started bawling her head off & calling me a kunt & that she hates me....goid....another fucktatd that will never forget her short but brief encounter with a MAN.....WHORE.....Oh yeh I also told her that she's programmed to deceive & to harm others.....get fucked you brain dead drunken whore....I've taste buds & high morals she desired me & presumed that she had me but I was NOT INTERESTED NOR DESIRED A STINKING DRUNKEN SLUT. ...With NO BRAINS....& HET BREFF STUNK LIKE DOG SHIT TOO....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 7:07 AM
with this knowledge I am going to teach as many Americans as I can


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 7:11 AM
I was asked this question what happens if they don't accept it?


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 7:13 AM
They've dishonoured the lawful currency but will insist tbat ye pay with legal tender. ...huh....fuckin what??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 7:14 AM
It matters not if they accept or reject it...it's still lawful currency.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 8:19 AM
there's one more stamp on that piece of paper that needs to know where to go


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 8:30 AM
keep going mate you're doing a good job.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 10:22 AM
Which stamp is that one bloke ??


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August le Blanc

Aug 03, 2013 10:59 AM
umm... rec'd by KUNT?


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August le Blanc

Aug 03, 2013 11:23 AM
Here you go Frisbey...


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Adam Thomas

Aug 03, 2013 1:24 PM
Yuuurrrpp. RECEIVED BY: KUNT...17:00 HRS. 3/8/2013


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 03, 2013 4:17 PM
Where does the receipt by date stamp go?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 05, 2013 12:54 AM
Adam Thomas what do we do when they don't accept our bill of exchange?


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Adam Thomas

Aug 05, 2013 4:28 AM
Sit back & larf at the shit party that is now going on because of legal Tender. Tis a shit lovers paradise. Ask them where in the Bills of Exchange Act does it state that toilet paper is no longer to be used as toilet paper to now discharge dags of shit connected to your chocolate starfish??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 05, 2013 4:29 AM
John, do you accept Bills of Exchange??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 05, 2013 4:29 AM
Do WE NOT accept Bills of Exchange ??


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 05, 2013 4:30 AM
How do we ask them? Do we write a letter do we file claim notice of mistake what what do we do how do we do it


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Adam Thomas

Aug 05, 2013 4:31 AM
Has your GOVERNMENT RESCINDED the BoE Act or does a BANK HAVE MORE SUPERIORITY OVER & ABOVE THE GOVERNMENT??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 05, 2013 4:32 AM
I just ecplained it John mate...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 05, 2013 4:36 AM
Adam you know how to do this stuff we don't talk to us like we're five year olds and explain how do you do it how? Step by step okay write a letter and the letter it says that.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 3:47 AM
Adam Thomas did you not explain how to discharge debts to bills of exchange on this thread?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 4:03 AM
you made it into a species of money and they dishonor it by not accepting it. you can file a claim against them that they are in violation of the bills of exchange act


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 4:06 AM
they made the rules they have to play by them


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 5:45 AM
https://m.facebook.com/ChiefRock2k9?_mn_=7


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 8:09 AM
Who's backing who Derek Moran & Pete Daoust.?? Both of ye shpuld call me so I can explain sum of your questions. If not then fall on your own swords. +6100 0458991832. That's for the chicken hearts hiding that need answers as to BoE...if they can NOT understand ENGLISH then that is their problem. I know you get it John but.... Call me anytime lads ok? Pete, I've alteady asked for your phone number but ye refused to hive it. Derek Moran, what's your excuse again?? Oh yeh...I remember sum thing ye said about Admiralty Law not dealing in fractions & my reply was wtf has ADMIRALTY LAW TO DO WITH TRUST LAW?.......AGAIN PLEASE BUT NICE & LOUD THIS TIME SO EVERY ONE CAN UNDERSTAND YE DEREK, except M E of course :-)"


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Pete Daoust

Aug 12, 2013 12:58 PM
The postal stamps, I don't get it :(


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:01 PM
did you read the Bills of Exchange Act where it talks about the $1 stamp and the five cent stamp to set off debt from bills of exchange act?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:06 PM
House joint resolution: 192 from 1933 the bankruptcy. UCC-3


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 1:09 PM
Pete Daoust, I don't know what's going on in your world or Derek Moran s world but Mr. Frisbey does have sum knowledge sbout BoE but for sum fucked up reason ye both ignore him & pay out on him.... WHY?? I CARE NOT. BUT...if WE do not BACK each other in this fucking group as a WHOLE then jow the fuck are WE to defeat the ENEMY OF US ALL?? STOP THIS SHIT NOW PLEASE....BOTH OF YE. F U C K!!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:11 PM
Universal Commercial Code= Universal Currency code.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 1:12 PM
Ucc 3 is BoE...or is that ucc 1??


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:14 PM
We've had new world order since 1933 people Scott Duncan even likes this


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Pete Daoust

Aug 12, 2013 1:15 PM
I go to the mail box. I open it. Oppsss�.a Bill of Exchange addressed to PIERRE DAOUST inside the mail box. I open the envelop. There is a debt attached to this BoE. This debt is sent to a person named PIERRE DAOUST. PIERRE DAOUST is NOT �ME� PIERRE DAOUST has been created by the Government. The government is SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST So as the lawful holder of PIERRE DAOUST I have 2 choices. 1). Buy back this debt and pay for it. 2). Turn this BoE so I can ACCEPT BY:____________, date it, put PIERRE DAOUST�s account number on it�and send it registered mail to the Bank of Canada, because this is where they have to deal with this, because it is the GOVERNMENT�s bank. No postal stamps involved....I don't UNDERSTAND the postal stamp of $1, and the one of $0.05 cents...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:17 PM
No you send it back to the corporation you're dealing with this is a business deal god damnit


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:18 PM
This is a fucking contract and your full filling your duties as the beneficiary of the account. top 5 cent stamp is a duty tax stamp paid. placing your seal signature across the that creates jonder with the account of your person. the $1 stamp is lawful currency. meaning you are giving it valuable Confederation. and the some certain total


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 1:23 PM
I asked my bank for it, the addy. They were going to charge me for a replacement card. I told them I have a piece of paper saying I am not surety. Bill the Bank of Canada, please. :)


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:26 PM
consideration


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:26 PM
some=sum


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:27 PM
you do not tear off the voucher you send the whole god damn thing back to thembut your photo copy it first. registered mail


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 1:30 PM
�stamp� means an adhesive stamp or a stamp impressed by means of a die;


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:36 PM
there are two postage stamps one is the dollar the other is a five cent stamp explained in the whole thread above


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 1:38 PM
These can be purchased at your local POSTAL office. :)


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:42 PM
the crooked lawyers cops judges in all those motherfuckers wrote the law we are just obaying and fulfilling the law= completing the contract


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:45 PM
let's say your hydro bill is $100 write in $200 you are discharging give them a tip god damn it .don't be stingy


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 1:48 PM
you just got rid of money there is less money in the world now because you just discharged it and took it away it no longer exist


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:00 PM
Scott Duncan asked me personally to study money. my next step is mortgages. then student loan. then car payment./ loan. promissory note.


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 2:03 PM
I went bankrupt in 2009. What can I do about getting back the monies I paid out back?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:03 PM
the human being is the creditor the person is the debtor it has an account it is worth millions of dollars let's start using that money to discharge debts


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:06 PM
leigh what chapter of bankruptcy did you perform?


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 2:07 PM
Wasn't aware of chapters. Will have to get back to you.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:11 PM
I know this may seem like a personal question but how much did u loss?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:12 PM
because unless it was like a hundred million dollars don't worry about it


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:12 PM
Scott wasn't lying when he said he was going to make us millionaires


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Lei Gh

Aug 12, 2013 2:14 PM
Nothing is personal anymore. And I relinquished dignity when I gave birth. ;P No where near that. Aprox. $ 30,000


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:14 PM
now all that reading of law crap that rot my brain now makes sense because it is contract


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:17 PM
but if it wasn't for Scott's help I wouldn't know how to do any of this


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 2:24 PM
this is the same reason they took the UCC bucks from us in prison they didn't want us getting out of prison discharging are charges that we were in prison under


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 2:39 PM
Derek Moran...your turn to feel my vent now.... WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PARROT SCOTT ALL THE GUCKING TIME?? THIS MAKES YOU LOOK & SOUND LIKE A WEASLY LITTLE COCK-SUCKER. ARE YE A COCK-SUCKER? WHY THE FUCK ARE YE ADMIN OF T4LG WHEN YE NEVER EVER LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE OR BACK ANYONE ELSE IN THE GROUP BUT SCOTT... Scott called ye out a while ago & was ready to ban your dumb ass because ye ASSUMED WRONG... I WAS THE VERY FIRST & ONLY PERSON TO BACK YOU UP AMONGST EVERYONE YE CALLED TO H E L P YE DEFEND YOUR ASS....But when Scott, called me out there was NOT ONE SQUEAK OR PEEP FROM YOU DEREK. WHY NOT KUNT?? YOU CONSTANTLY PULL SHIT FROM YOUR ASS & YE DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE IN THIS GROUP. If ye were infront of me right now Derek, I WOULD KICK YOU REAL HARD IN THE NUTS....IF YE HAVE ANY... DO YE THINK YOU'RE SMARTER OR BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS GROUP DEREK? IF SO FUCK OFF. NOW ANSWER ME DEREK PLEASE.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 2:46 PM
Hey...Derek. ..fucking answer me you weasel....or are ye too busy sucking cock ??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 2:49 PM
I AM sick & fucking tired of the admin in t4lg talking shit all the time pete & not giving anyone else in t4lg any value....it's all just looking like an exercuse in Derek s cock-sucking EGO stroking exercise....I've had it mate....I really have...


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 2:51 PM
Minus Derek Moran of course.


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Chris Evan

Aug 12, 2013 2:59 PM
All right. Why would we want to create joinder with the legal person? Isnt this WHOLE thing meant to control the legal person no BE the legal person?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 12, 2013 3:00 PM
The Joinder is created between the bill of exchange money species and the account of the person not the human being


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 3:00 PM
Derek Moran, are ye going to come to the party too or are ye going to be my pet bitch like your cock-sucking shit talking kunt of a mate Derek Hill was??


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 3:09 PM
I noticed out of all the men in t4lg Derek Moran, YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT DEFENDED DEREK FUCKING KUNT HILL. WHY?? IS HIS ORAL SKILLS UP TO YOUR STANDARD OR WHAT?


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Adam Thomas

Aug 12, 2013 3:31 PM
I TRUST you with mine... 0458 991 832.


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 3:56 AM
Im curious Adam- that night awhile back you shit-on Derek Hill for calling you a bullshitter, where exactly IN the Australian Bills of Exchange Act does it EXPRESSLY talk about how a BoE is either AMENDABLE and/or NON AMENDABLE? Im having trouble finding where it EXPRESSLY says that...and here, ill make it easy for you: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2012C00128


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 5:23 AM
http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnQsgwt8Rk1I%26sns%3Dfb&h=IAQGEhJSR&s=1


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 5:51 AM
the whole part of the bills of exchange that I understand as we can do it however we choose is sticking to the claim when they dishonor it


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 5:52 AM
Stamps & cheques duties Act. 1971 I think...or 75....thats when gough whitlam changed our constitution by deception ...because he is a fabian fucker.....wolves amongst the sheep.......


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDNzxj7N9Ys


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:17 AM
Derek, if it makes you feel any better, I have a super secret book on admiralty maritime law, and its conversion for use in private for profit courts, called CLERK PRAXIS, written in the 1700s


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 6:29 AM
Oy... is not commerce based on Bills? A public notice is a bill, an offer to contract, a tender.... Bills of exchange are at the very heart of the matter. Selling for the sum of a dollar is an old practice. I have bought a number of cars that way... As with law, there may be more than 1 way to accomplish the same end game... fuck.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:55 AM
Derek, you are invited to join my personal legal defense team if I should be indicted with felony charges ever again. No bull shit. I want someone like you on my side when I confront the dogs of war


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:00 AM
Now- Jason wants to talk about NOTICES being BILLS...so go make yourself useful


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:03 AM
And you know what Jason? Thank YOU for posting what you have about setting-up your Trust...it occurred to me, that aside from Scott, you are the ONLY other people on this page who HAS


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:06 AM
I'm so very close to doing that myself


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 7:10 AM
I know of many many blokes from down under that operate through their private trusts.....its something that I have always claimed or should I say never claimed to have done....but on the to do list....right next to kill all lawyers on earth list in first place


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:12 AM
You have to understand, you are an estate, and the trust already exists, they, the dogs, the practitioners of witchcrat legaleese, have mearly stacked a bunch of shit in the record on top of it to create a presumption from which to fuck you.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:14 AM
the trust, or estate, stands in law once you rebut the BS presumptions. Or that how I understand it, with ten years of Etstate, trust and probate law under my bealt stretching back through the midevil and roman law to babylon


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:20 AM
Derek... You dont have to set up a Trust, or Estate, by their inferior legal rules, as you possess an estate, or rather, you are possessed by an estate, your body and issuance or children being the property of that estate from which trusts may originate, and upon which are they predicated, in law, outside the jurisdiction of witchcraft legalism and legalese.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:22 AM
I respond to all government crap, PAUL NEIL ROWE, Estate, correcting them by adding estate to the corperate presumption they use, and they tend to look for a way out of engaging me further


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:25 AM
Alfred and MASTER Wayne starting talking about the CESTUI QUE VIE ACT, at 1:23... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:26 AM
I respond to all government crap, PAUL NEIL ROWE, Estate, correcting them by adding estate to the corperate presumption they attempt to apply and impose on me, and they tend to look for a way out of engaging me further, especially if they get the chance to ask me my name in court, and repond NO, Paul Neil Rowe is not my name, it is a name given me, as property that I possess. And I refuse to plead Not Guilty, a negative that cant be proven, as I am Innocent of any crime, and pleading for me transfers surity to the person pleading.


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:28 AM
Chris Fleming has recently dealt with someone filing a DEMURRER against him...interesting, cuz nobody really talks about that


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:29 AM
You must come to understand, derek, and Im takin the time cause I like you, that all law originates with the author of the law, the oldest and highest law being trust and estate law, and your right about that. It comes from the old testiment (law), not babylon (legalism)


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:31 AM
If you licence a trust or estate, it is dead, and under the jurisdiction of your oppanant, the government, operating in legalism, and not law


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:35 AM
You like me?...you know how i feel about people LIKING me- however, The Old Testament is a Fairy-Tale. Golden-Rule, "Do no harm," Anglo-Saxon-Jute common law, i consent to be governed to THAT. Just gotta sort the Birth Certificate out. The definition for DELIVERY is in the BOE i.e. BILL OF LADING - im out, goin' to bed


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:43 AM
Perhaps, i waste my time, to retort, that the whole system neo, fairy tale or not, is based upon and derived from this ancient system of law, which must be accepted as originating with no man. The birth certificate, is a slave bond. I have one to. But I only serve one master of the two that claim ownership, and the latter falsely claiming to be my master, tends to have to stuff it when the claim is shown to be false.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:46 AM
who has superior claim. wins


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:47 AM
if I post a claim in a public newspaper that I own all caps name is the government going to show up and say no we own it?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:47 AM
The principle of the thing is what wins out. And if you have no principle upon which to stand, then you have no standing. The are forces beyond what we see, and moving these forces is the key to controling everything


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:53 AM
Ive heard tell of people doing just that, and taking out a multi milliondollar lean on their own name, and seeing everything and everyone with a lesser claim withdraw and run in retreat. May be a fairy tale, or folklore, or legend. Who can say?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:54 AM
I certainly wouldnt be surprised if it worked.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:57 AM
that is precisely what I am about to do. and then I'm going to post it here


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 8:07 AM
Yes......I do BoE but this is sumthing new to moi...it is another arrow to my bow....or all three of my heads. :-)"


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 8:08 AM
Impress stamp duty pais is in ballantynes &/or Blacks &/or Nouveires.....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 8:09 AM
Paid....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 8:11 AM
Bouvieres....blacks ....or Ballantynes....hmmm...which one.....Ballantynes is my guess.....6 or 7th edition.


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Lei Gh

Aug 13, 2013 8:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9VhD4SccSE


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 10:25 AM
Yeah...my trust is almost done too! And i already have the corporation! Thanks Jason


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 11:28 AM
Well ok I really am liking this new version of Derek Moran.....a lot o kunt about him now.....this is what is required. ......I did try to deal with this issue 'PRIVATELY' too Derek. ...but ye went 'PUBLIC' instead.....bummer dude......but it gets back to the origin of my vent against ye where ye did say that Scott, said Admiralty does not deal in fractions. Accepted.. TRUST DOES. ACCEPTED. The end result is here we are still.....but a brand new sparkly, shiny, ANGRIER.....HARDER......LEADER OF THE T4LG DEREK MORAN. ACCEPTED. ;-)"


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 11:43 AM
I still dont get why a buck o five is worth learning about! I have read everything, I have listened and it makes ZERO logical sense and here is why. I am a fucking beneficiary. Why to I need to hide behind Statutory rules (in this case the UPU) in order to make my point????


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 11:58 AM
You'll never get it then Chris Schulte.....ye are actually reversing the roles on them with the buck - o - five. ....& discharging debt because it's the only way on earth that debt can be discharged lawfully & legally...certainly not by legal tender.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 12:01 PM
Ask me any question about why using BoE in their courts is 1 000 000 � times more powerful against them.....boe threads can go on forever if not nailed down to the very basics of dumbness.....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 12:03 PM
You are still using legal tender too aren't ye chris.....this is your problem then not mine. Your programming is incorrect.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 12:19 PM
Bill of Exchange is an unconditional ORDER in writing, addressed by one person to another, signed by the person giving it, requiring the person to whom it is addressed to pay on demand or at a fixed & determinable future time, a sum certain in money to or to the order of a specified person or bearer.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 12:22 PM
"ACCORD & SATISFACTION". WTF IS IT??


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 12:28 PM
mhmmmm....but why involve the UPU? Why that Statutory body? Whats the difference between that and citing the UCC?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 12:43 PM
And technically, I am using "legal tender" UNDER DURESS so I can EAT! I get what you are saying though. I have taken that matter VERY deep into the US bureaucracy! We HAVE a remedy for lawful money here! We have 12 USC 411 (the codified language from the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 as amended). We just don't know how to use it!


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 1:09 PM
Do ye use the mailing system in the USA Chris & if so do ye trust that the mail must get through.


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Blake Gardner

Aug 13, 2013 1:18 PM
Stamps are simply one of many options to setoff or discharge a debt. They are a tangible form of consideration to the system in that they are backed by the Swiss gold coin (forget the name)...So if you offer the stamped instrument as a tender for said debt and its not returned within 72hrs with a certificate of dishonor or a notice of defect in the instrument it has been accepted and there is discharge. The real question of importance with all these remedies imo then is can you hold them in honor under testing and pressure, coz that's a given:-) and where most seem to crack or go into dishonor/acceptance/consent. Peace.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 1:41 PM
mhmmmm.....I comprehend all of that Blake! And have! But my local city collector doesn't even know what BoE is! Pete has been helping me with this. So, how can I educate this woman without all the KUNTS, FAP FAP FAP, etc. How does this boil down into simplicity? Remeber....if it is difficult you are doing it wrong. This seems difficult!


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 1:47 PM
The UPU is an incredibly powerful tool they have used against us for a looonngg time $2 G.I. WE USE IT AGAINST THEM TO BIND THEM TO THEIR LEGAL FICTION. It actually holds judges on an incredibly tight leash because if they make the claim it's not legal tender or lawful currency then he pays so he now shuts the fuck up & backs the fuck off & will let the prosecution take the fall for it INSTEAD. If you make a mistake Not one fuck does it matter as all ye do is say sorry for being a real clever kunt & ASK where the mistake was made?? This re sets the clock back in your favour as there's every chance in the book that the majority of your magistrates & County Court judges will not have a fucking clue as to where ye went wrong either... Let them pull shit from their own asses & then watch a judge hang himself. BEAUTIFUL SHIT TO SEE....S I G H .....Yes... I would like to see this...secret fantasy o mine ye could say.....indeed.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 1:50 PM
Ok...gotcha. Bildo has posted some stuff here about that before. He has a couple documents. Have you read them?


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Blake Gardner

Aug 13, 2013 2:09 PM
Yeah Chris, it's not our obligation to inform, explain or play legal council for our adversary, nor is it our problem as its a maxim that every man know the law. We just give them a remedy to their claim whatever that might be and let the paper do the work:-) Adz - thanks mate, the stones are still slippin & a sliddin...eeeew.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 2:55 PM
the whole point to the bills of exchange is. that you've made your claim and they denied you lawful currency acceptance.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:03 PM
This is EXACTLY how I explained it to them Chris Schulte and Blake Gardner, and so far, NOTHING :/ I go to the mail box. I open it. Oppsss�.a Bill of Exchange addressed to PIERRE DAOUST inside the mail box. I open the envelop. There is a debt attached to this BoE. This debt is sent to a person named PIERRE DAOUST. PIERRE DAOUST is NOT �ME� PIERRE DAOUST has been created by the Government. The government is SURETY for PIERRE DAOUST So as the lawful holder of PIERRE DAOUST I have 2 choices. 1). Buy back this debt and pay for it. 2). Turn this BoE so I can ACCEPT BY:____________, date it, put PIERRE DAOUST�s account number on it�and send it registered mail to the Bank of Canada, because this is where they have to deal with this, because it is the GOVERNMENT�s bank.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:04 PM
sin/ssn is an account of our estate. JOHN WADE FRISBEY. Is our benificiary account. Which we are the first principle holder in due course of that account. If I was to write a check from a bank account that I had in my name would that not be accepted as the lawful tender.? Through the power of attorney that we hold for set up account we take the payment coupon voucher remittance and we drafted into a currency of a species of money called the bill of exchange.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:05 PM
My INTENT, is to know ALL methods available for PIERRE DAOUST, the person, to discharge debts sent to PIERRE DAOUST the person....I make it clear on ALL communications I have with EVERYONE......I am NOT looking for free rides, I am seeking the truth, that's all....


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:07 PM
I am NOT doing it to piss off anyone, I am not doing it because I am mad, I am not doing it for revenge, I AM DOING IT IN GOOD FAITH, because I want to know the exact truth....period.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:08 PM
DT e energy send me a bill. I can either pay that debt with Federal Reserve notes which is illegal or i can discharge the Debt with lawful currency species of money call bills of exchange


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:08 PM
OK....I have read the Social Security Act in its ENTIRETY and I have scanned Title 42 of the US Code. NOWHERE did I see any evidence that the SSN is an account number of our estate....NOWHERE. Can you show me evidence of where the number THEY created is an account number for ANYTHING besides "FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS"?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:10 PM
In my FOURTH letter, asking Hydro-Quebec on HOW to deal with this, and asking them to explaine EVERYTHING to me, I pointed the fact that I was really deceived, because of their COMPLETE SILENCE, regarding my request on REMITTANCE ADVICES.....I am telling them ALL THE TRUTH, and they don't even dare answering me.....I have all the proofs that I am acting in good faith, and I have ALL the proofs, that they don't act in good faith...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:12 PM
Chris Schulte, on all communication with Canadian Revenu Agency, it says, ACCOUNT NUMBER: 26X-XXX-XXX :D


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:12 PM
look up letters of credit.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:13 PM
I know Pete....I am not sold that the US has the same process....


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:13 PM
I am NOT trying to polish turds Adam Thomas, I want to make my INTENTS clear, and want to act in good faith...that is MY job, and I am doing it FOR ME


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:13 PM
Its the account number for the Public Trust they want me to be SURETY for!


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:14 PM
Frisbey, when I look up letters of credit, where am I going to find the SSN DEFINED BY THEM as an account number for ANYTHING other than "FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS"?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:15 PM
It comes to a point Chris that WHAT THEY WANT is not really my problem, What I WANT is my problem.....and by LEARNING in here on a daily basis, I come to know exactly what I want......I WANT THE FUCKING TRUTH :D


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:16 PM
As do I! Which is what I am asking Frisbey to provide. Proof of this claim.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM
I have spent years reading clubhouse rules because I thought they mattered. I am pretty well versed in them.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM
In the US of course. You Canucks have a different SET UP


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM
Heres what ye should write in red ink on your water bill everyone. @ top of bill where your name is write these words: acknowledged offer to contract between named parties herein a statement of transaction between them. Then initial in either red or blue.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 3:18 PM
If they are LYING to me, that is THEIR problems, I have EVERYTHING recorded, and all communications is done registered mail....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:18 PM
" acknowledged offer to contract between named parties herein a statement of transaction between them" That exactly?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:19 PM
Birth certificate = Provincial account SIN= Federal Account U.S. is full of sovereigns that is why they need to attorn...


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:20 PM
Rubber stamp it top left hand corner NOT NEGOTIABLE ETC ...


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:21 PM
Here in the States, the Social Security Act is a contract between the States and the Federal Government. The State sells the new numbers to the Federal Government for GRANTS.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:22 PM
On bottom portion of bill payment money order slip rubber stamp it ACCEPTED AS INDORSED then initial it


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:22 PM
The BC, as far as I can tell, registers the PERSON in the DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA....into THEIR system.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:23 PM
*67 1 810 588 1920 , if you would like to call me use that number and your number will not show up on my cell phone and that way I can tell you over the phone exactly what's going on


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:23 PM
sounds like a transfer payment to me...


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:24 PM
Frisbey. I am simply asking you to show me IN THEIR FUCKING LAW where the SSN is defined as an account number for your ESTATE. Or maybe it is some other form that we filled out making the law, IDK. But it is a simple question.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:25 PM
I don't need an explanation of whats going on....I have a realllllll good handle on that. I simply want to know where it says what you claimed.....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:26 PM
Where the sum certain payable is for amount owing in bottom right corner if INCHOATE instrument write in red ink: Accepted amount payable to expressly write in yiur own figure & be generous with your tips so give them an extra $100. Exactly.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:26 PM
I may not get BoE's, but I certainly get US history. I have spent years studying it


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:26 PM
in contract law the superior claim always wins this is a claim


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:26 PM
Stop.....why offer a tip? That sounds like spending money like a drunken sailor


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:27 PM
Frisbey....WTF does that mean? SHOW ME THE FUCKING LAW


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:27 PM
because we are honourable, and the irony is delicious...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:28 PM
we offer more money in a tip so that we can destroy more money of exchange


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:28 PM
discharging the debt one B O E at a time... ;-)


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:28 PM
taking money ( debt) out of the system.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:28 PM
our goal is to get rid of debt which is getting rid of money


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:29 PM
No it only gets rid of ONE speicie of money. The FRN


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:29 PM
Money has many species


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:29 PM
The write in red again: which is sum certain of one Australian dollar exactly Initial it.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:30 PM
I get what you are doing is creating a lawful specie of money. I have a bunch of parts in front of me, but I can't figure out what connects to what and why and how this fucking thing is gonna work when I put it together.....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:32 PM
B O E is currency... correct?


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:33 PM
Turn bill over onto back then rubber stamp it on payout part which is bottom of instrument rubber stamp it ACCEPTED AS INDORSED. Initial it. If you've got rubber stamps then rubber stamp on very bottom right of instrument: SEE OVER FOR INDORSEMEMTS.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:35 PM
or the fondation that creates the currency... to money of account or money of exchange, money of account is preferable to convert to digital currency...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:35 PM
let's say you guys had a bank account that was a checking account and you wrote a check and send it off to pay that bill and the company that you paid the bill then now is that check cashed it and then try to charge you again for the same bill what would you do?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:36 PM
FRISBEY, clearly you DO NOT have an answer to my question! You clearly have demonstrated that you are offering ADVICE without the proper understanding of what the hell you are doing.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:40 PM
Ive asked 3 times....Where in THEIR law or on what form is the SSN defined as an account number for your ESTATE? I have read the Social Security Act in its ENTIRETY as well as scanned 42 USC.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:40 PM
Or is this just an ASSUMPTION we are all making?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:42 PM
law= contract. we only have one right to make are not make contract this is a form of making a contract claim.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:42 PM
Ahhh....I'D be looking @ CESTUI-QUE-TRUSTS Chris Schulte. ...Derek Moran posted earlier on I think....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:44 PM
I know Frisbey. You said that the SSN is the account number to your Estate. How did you deduce that and with what evidence?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:45 PM
Chris Schulte I do not know this for sure but when one of your presidents around 1933 brought in the new deal... entitling citizens to social security or old age pensions... The same time we in canada were given Social Insurance... The whole world was then switched to a human resource based economy... It is a federal account which payments are transferred thru... Is a simple as I know...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:45 PM
because when I call asking the Social Security Administration I asked them and they said it was a social security account number 3629 07731


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Adam Thomas

Aug 13, 2013 3:46 PM
Hey Chris Schulte, call this number if ye like or dont call it... +61 0458 991 832. I dunno if you'll get through nut....meh....or give me yours if ye like or....pffftt...dilligaf.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:46 PM
Yes Jason F. LeBlanc. The Social Security Act was passed in 1941 as part of the new deal by FDR. It was defined as a "FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS ACCOUNT". I am curious why we would call it anything else!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:47 PM
I am the holder in due course to the JOHN WADE FRISBEY TRUST


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:48 PM
Frisbey, huh? On the back of your card, it CLEARLY states that it is the property of the SSA.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:48 PM
not if you lien it...


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:49 PM
it's still theirs, you just diverted the revenue into the Trust's account...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM
For the same reason Canada call is there a social insurance number because they want to hide the truth


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM
Correct Jason. It is STILL THEIRS though! Its like my deed. Its is mine, but there is a lien attached to it. It doesn't change the fact that it is mine!


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM
You still have not answered my question Frisbey. Don't say shit unless you can back it up!


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 3:57 PM
The lien keeps them in their rightful place as holders of the trust created at birth, so we benefit, the lien ensures we benefit without the liability, which is kept at a distance thru the proxy of the corporation.. So what if it is theirs. Chris Schulte We have cut off a source of revenue to them. With B O E and Notice of mistake, New originals and such we take control of our destinies. And the law you are looking for is probably hidden in some unrelated act or Statute, Much like the definition of Canada is in the Ocean's Act... And the only mention I can find so far about the consolidated revenue fund....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:00 PM
Question have all of you had a checking account in a bank yes or no?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:02 PM
Thats not the fucing point. Lets say I did and I MISTAKENLY used my SSN. What is the law that REQUIRED me to use it?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:03 PM
Okay hypothetically you wrote a check and send it off to a bill company like a power company and they cashed it but did not a credit to your account what would you do?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:03 PM
Ehhhh.....Forget it! You have no proof and are talking out your ass


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:04 PM
How would you in a court of law proof that you paid your bill and they didn't credit your account?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:04 PM
With a receipt


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:06 PM
It is probably under tax statutes somewhere.... which in canada have never been ratified by parliament... not ratified no law... I think it is bill c-130 or something like that... So there is no law about the SIN number, that is what we are remedying ... that is why it is hard to find.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:07 PM
Well if he is gonna make a claim, I want proof. Now where is the proof Frisbey?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:08 PM
My receipt is the registered mail and my photo copy and my picture of the bills of exchange that I drafted


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:10 PM
This is why we use the post all service. or postal


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:13 PM
um, Scott has stated these ideas in a few threads. Chris Schulte, The Birth Certificate is an account, The SIN is an account... It's All Accounting.... so B O E is the tool to use in accounting.... All documents, Notice of mistake, New originals are related to BILLING... Charges.... Discharges.. Settling of accounts, that is all this is... Merchant Law....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:16 PM
I just cannot grasp these concepts. They are so strange! I am curious HOW we came up with them. i don't question and never have whether they work or not because there is a LOT of evidence they do. I am interested in WHY and HOW it works. No one can answer me.....


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 4:17 PM
To have surety, it has to be an account somewhere......no account, no surety


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 4:17 PM
Everyone has the RIGHT to the SURETY of the PERSON


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:18 PM
stop acting as the debtor and start acting as the creditor


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 4:18 PM
I've been asking the Government MULTIPLES times, WHAT IS THE SURETY OF THE PERSON.....They just DON'T answer....never....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:18 PM
They tell me.....so you stamp this document like this....you do this.....its Inchoate. I ask WHY? and HOW COME? No one can tell me why


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:18 PM
or direct me to the information.....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:19 PM
I read the UCC 3 looking for it.....I still can't find it


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:20 PM
It is all part of the noble lie Chris Schulte... our programming gets in the way... the simplicity often eludes us... we have to much stuff in the way... They sneakily contract with us when we do not know any better, first job ... you need this number to work. duh ok.. In the files is the Bill of exchange book, read that it will help...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:20 PM
because we as first principle holder in due course of the account have the power of attorney to make it fucking so by their fucking rules


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 4:20 PM
Last question sent July 17th 2013 Good Morning Mr. Flaherty I am in a process of educating myself on WHO I am, I�ve been studying the subject for almost 2 years now, and INVESTED 2 to 3 hours a day, and I take it VERY seriously, after being literally attacked by Revenu Quebec Agency, I�ve made that decision that I will know EVERYTHING I need to know about ME, I mean EVERYTHING. And, according to my studies, YOU have the position of M.P. Minister of Finance in Canada to serve ME, and other people in Canada. If ever I�m wrong, just let me know and I will never contact you again. So I have one and only one question for you. According to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms article 7. 7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice. So MY QUESTION TO YOU IS: What is the Security of the Person ? Thanks in advance for your answer, I do recognize and fully accept your OATH of office. Pierre Daoust ALL RIGHTS RESERVED


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:20 PM
I don't mind trying new shit and learning, but if I don't know WHY AND HOW COME, welllll......I can't do it!


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:23 PM
Frisbey, if you are operating under a SSN or BC, you aren't a king. if you lien it, you still aren't a king. A king doesn't operate under his own set of rules. He operates above them. Stop parrotting and start thinking!


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:25 PM
Above them in Trust Law... The why is in the details.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:26 PM
So shall it be written so shall it become law. equals contract


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:27 PM
Where I am the KIng of my Trust...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:27 PM
A king makes his own law yes you may have someone to scribing dictation for him but he still makes his own law


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:29 PM
Why= cause they can with our (uninformed) consent How... legalese and ignorance..


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:29 PM
hehehehe......and where is that written? Where is the contract?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:33 PM
now just substitute the word king and put in their professional business man/ woman


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:35 PM
and the reason I say this is in America it is against the law to hold the title of nobility but it is not against the law to hold the title of chief executive acting officer of the hive corporation professional business man


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:35 PM
I think, there is a misunderstanding, I do not think Frisbey is a Parrot. I think he is answering in regards to B O E, but the details got you bogged down... He is trying to explain the power of B O E, all of the stamps are accounting instruments... It is all accounting... The why is because they could until we educated ourselves... The SIN is an account... simple. Where can I find the info to back it up... Here on one of these hundreds of threads...


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 4:37 PM
Yes, the SSN IS an account. I have only seen it defined in the law as a "FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS ACCOUNT". I am asking for Where is it defined as your estate account?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:41 PM
by whose authority do you say that I cannot call it what I choose to call it?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:42 PM
ah...ok I read something the other day on this... The old age benefits have been called social security as well... The name may have changed but the INTENT is still the same... bend over, where to find the exact estate law.. hmmm... I think the trail would start at what happens when your vessel expires and your accounts and estate are then property of the state until you WILL it somewhere else...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:44 PM
just like when a judge will not state his name for the record I can create a name for him on the record John Doe 1234


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 4:46 PM
my written word on parchment is law by the fucking rules it is and that is what I'm going with I am playing by their fucking Crocker rules but I know that the trick is no fucking good anymore


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:49 PM
some of us have already been burnt... Trust law insulates us from the fire, while juggling... Finish your thing, take the action, know why you are taking the action... to be king of your own domain, for me that is my SELF


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 4:53 PM
Little tip. In trust law, every man is an Estate. The estate is granted by god. When a man dies, if he is a pauper with no assets, his estate would be probated by his foot print or finger prints on a death certificate. So the government lawyers got creative in the 30s, when they came up with a way to probate your estate, at birth.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 4:54 PM
Of course, its absolute fraud.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:56 PM
The law that makes the SSN/SIN a force is the contract that was signed when you consented to contract with the Gubbint at the early age with first employment (because we are told, that is the way it is), as a rule to be part of the society... so we created joinder by signing away our rights with our seal.... We are now re-claiming our value... Chris Schulte


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 4:57 PM
KING. The chief magistrate of a kingdom, vested usually with the executive power. 2. The following table of the reigns of English and British kings and queens, commencing with the Reports, is added, to assist the student in many points of chronology. Accession. Henry III................ 1216 Edward I................. 1272 Edward II................ 1307 Edward III............... 1307 Richard II............... 1377 Henry IV................. 1399 Henry V.................. 1413 Henry VI................. 1422 Edward IV................ 1461 Edward V................. 1483 Richard III.............. 1483 Henry VII................ 1485 Henry VIII............... 1509 Edward VI................ 1547 Mary..................... 1553 Elizabeth................ 1558 James I.................. 1603 Charles I................ 1625 Charles II............... 1660 James II................. 1685 William III.............. 1689 Anne..................... 1702 George I................. 1714 George II................ 1727 George III............... 1760 George IV................ 1820 William IV............... 1830


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 4:58 PM
and why is that legal... because we consented.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 4:59 PM
The social security administration, is something called a Ton Tine wagering scheme, outlawed in the 1700, along with insurance, of all kinds. Insurance was considered immoral and unlawful. Nothing has ever made it lawful. You didnt knowingly, willingly, and intentionally establish a slave bond (BC), or join the SSA as a consenting adult, so theyre void.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:00 PM
Thats what I thought Jason. I was pretty sure of it. Now, the only party in the government that I am aware of giving that number to in order to create an account was the IRS. I am pretty sure I am not the beneficiary in that system/contract. So my question remains to Frisbey.....how is the SSN the number to your estate? not your IRS account number, your estate?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:01 PM
Now its making more sense though..........who else did I allow to use that account number to identify me???


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:03 PM
The SSN is the account of your estate in the federal domain.. it is the account attached to your estate. Tax law has been under the gun for a while... Every time you used it as part of your IDENTIFICATION


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 5:03 PM
My understanding of the SSA, is that its not an estate, its a trust, merely a contract, you pay in, everybody pays in, tribute and contribution as though theyve joined a religious cult, and whover out lives the rest, can collect. as I said, such schemes were unlawful a very long time ago.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 5:05 PM
This is where roosevelt and his lawyers got the Idea, figuring no one would really notice if they made it big enough, national. Many have.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:05 PM
ok, a Trust account... it is still an account, that process's money of account... it is part of the vessel in commerce thing... That we are re-claiming or claiming as part of our TRUST.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:05 PM
Actually Paul Rowe, there were a few cases that I don't have right away from the 40's that stated the Social Security program is not a trust and has no trust fund. It was defined simply as a tax.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:06 PM
But the SSN could ONLY be my account number for anything other than FEDERAL OLD AGE BENEFITS if I consented.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:06 PM
So the law is any form I signed with that number...then the account was created. Gotcha@


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:07 PM
YES.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:07 PM
An Excise tax....for the privilege of working under their corporation!


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:07 PM
now your cooking..


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:08 PM
As it is Written So it is done...


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 5:09 PM
Well miscommunication and the importance of The B O E can side track us, hopefully others have the same questions and they were answered here. :-)


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 5:09 PM
A ton tine wagering scheme operates similar to a trust, but its unlawful, so they like to call it a trust when put under the magnifying glass, and this is where all this trust talks come from. In a sense, it is a defacto trust, your trusting them to pay you your money back, even though its not garenteed, and they are not required to, except at their descretion.


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:10 PM
^ Exactly. And that is exactly how the Supreme Court interpreted it too!


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 5:11 PM
I cancelled that contract ab initio! That is why I am so concerned about this SSN stuff. But, it isn't my SSN, it is the account number I gave these OTHER contracts to identify me as. See....thats where my confusion was!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 6:11 PM
Chris S did you know they just started recently in Canada to have grocery store coupons


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 6:22 PM
Adam Thomas: The end result is here we are still.....but a brand new sparkly, shiny, ANGRIER.....HARDER......LEADER OF THE T4LG DEREK MORAN. ACCEPTED. NOTICE No CONTRACT, was ever OFFERED, for Adam Thomas to ACCEPT. And im not gettin' into this petty-grade-school-bullshit again today. USELESS CONTENT will be deleted IMMEDIATELY - that means no "LOL," no winky-smiley faces, no fucking MUSIC-VIDEOS, if Jason F. LeBlanc wants to learn more about how a NOTICE is somehow a BILL OF EXCHANGE TOO, then he will GODDAMMIT - cuz SO DO I! That is all- and FUCK OFF if you dont like it.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:24 PM
everybody, my wife says to new networks just showed up last night in the park, CIA unit 1, and CIA unit two. So if I die under mysterious circumstances, you all know what that was about


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:27 PM
This shit aint funny yo. They show up on my wife's computer as an available networks but not on mine.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 6:29 PM
but I'm fucking crazy cuz I want to live on a boat. lol


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 6:30 PM
And WHY the CIA would want to kill you Paul Rowe ? :/


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:30 PM
Im moving. As cartman would say "Fuck you guys, Im going home."


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:37 PM
Because I wrote my own license to practice law, and can disqualify any judge all the way to the supreme court. I know what happens on the private side of the court. You guys are all worried about what happens on the public side, and not what you dont see. And ive started training others to over turn the tables of the money changers at the judgement seat inside their temples to mamom. I can shut down court houses and cases enough to drive them out of business


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:39 PM
Im going to end up like Faust. The town i live is shriking again. Closing in fast. Time to run.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 6:46 PM
So because of this, they will give a contract to the CIA to kill you ?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:51 PM
I currently have two local judges facing federal court for racketeering charges of running KIDS for Cash protection raquets in family court, and its what they do every where, and two false arrest cases completely separate from those for damages, and I cant be beat. And they know Ive figured out how to duplicate these cases every where by the thousands. I suppose Im asking for it


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:53 PM
And they have nothing to do with me. Im representing people, giving legal advice, advertising my law practice, and ive estoppled them from charging me with unlicenced practice. Thats a pretty tall order, wouldnt you say?


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 6:54 PM
Pierre- did the 'Mr. Flaherty' answer that letter? Probably not. After 30 days, he hasnt done in his job, its safe to assume he's now created a CONTROVERSY by NOT answering your question. NOW its time to send NOTICE FOR FULL-DISCLOSURE: "I require-request-and wish for FULL-DISCLOSURE on....."


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 6:55 PM
whole disclosure. full disclosure is whatever they want to give you


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:55 PM
full disclosure, clarification of terms and definitions, nature and cause


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 6:59 PM
derek. You dont have to sound like that. you simply make it known that you conditionally except upon full disclosure of all hidden terms and conditions, clarification of terms and definitions. You can make it really complex, or simple, and then just get more complicated if they dont understand. You musnt get in your own way with details. Thats wha they want.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:00 PM
I prefer to demand and insist on such things.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:01 PM
relief requsted - NO. Relief sought or demanded


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:10 PM
I move and direct the trustee of the court, movant's fiduciary, and he moves as i tell him to, cause ive already established the difference between acting in a judicial capacity, in law, and acting in an administrative capacity outside immunity in their private person, in leagality. I sit on the judges chest and take his pulse, smiling at him. If you have to ask, and beg, because you dont know what his limitations are, then he is sitting on you, and you are under him.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:12 PM
You will never know this power, little ones, until God has admitted and licenced you to exercise this power, which comes from understanding the source of the natural law, from which all other law is derived and originates.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:17 PM
theres electricty, magnetic and spiritual forces in the air around you, and you can direct them, if you understand them, if you dont, its like the karate kids master said " martial arts like crossing the street. either you know or you dont know, and if you dont know, and you cross the street.... what the HELL DID HE SAY?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:21 PM
I do not believe in God any longer it is all part of the noble lie


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:21 PM
Daniel-san, must talk. [they both kneel] Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, [makes squish gesture] get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", [makes squish gesture] just like grape. Understand?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:24 PM
Look here Who-are You Frisbey, even the laws of phisics break down into nonsence, einstien discovered, when they reach the wall of the singularity. There is a single inteligent cause behind the effect and the fabic of the universe, that changes the rules like a rubic cube fighting back.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:24 PM
A Public Notice, is a tender for law... IT IS AN OFFER TO CONTRACT, Derek Moran, If they do any unauthorized action, according to notice, they are subject to charges in the form of an invoice, which when dishonoured can be liened, it falls under a broad category of B O E.... It becomes a bill of exchange when it is made public... You break the terms you are subject to surety...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:28 PM
I am my own master of my own destiny


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:28 PM
"ye are all gods, are ye not?" all are gods of something, because you have been given dominion over something. Have no illusion, many things attempt to have dominion over you, and ultimately, you will chose one master, or reamin confused sitting on the fence


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:28 PM
I am master and commander of my domain. period. God or not, has nothing to do with my PRIVATE Trust.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:29 PM
I was an ordained minister understand me I know what I am talking about


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:29 PM
The Gods must have their own PRIVATE trusts....


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:30 PM
now were getting deep. Im intrigued.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:32 PM
Mythology is always created by the noble lie PR dept... Allowing Gods to rule in Ancient times and Corporations now.... SO I trust myself, I am god to me


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:32 PM
I don't need a guide to tell me it is wrong to do you harm when you have no intent to do me harm.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:32 PM
the only thing I have mastery over as my domain, is that which goes on in my head, the rest is a roll of the dice, and i dont even have exclusive dominion there, cause I know there are strangers in their, like an angel and a demon sitting on either shoulder


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:34 PM
I am the creator , Grantor, Settlor of all the TRUSTS Accounts, with emphasis on do no harm to humans that do not men me harm, self defence is acceptable. There are outside forces sure, I do not consent, to to any business not of my choosing...


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:36 PM
If there is nothing greater than you, then you have no protection, and no source outside yourself to draw upon. I allow another power, greater than me, to work through me, casting out and expelling demons with the power of the word, and I watch spirits depart from people who shrivel up like cursed trees.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:36 PM
oh boy.... What does that mean exactly?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:37 PM
Allies are important.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:37 PM
I swear Ive seen a Judge crap himself suddenly filled with self loathing and disgust... "WE DONT DO THINGS BY AMBUSH IN THIS COURT MR ROWE!"


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:43 PM
There is a question on the table Paul Rowe, could you expLain the statement... "If there is nothing greater than you, then you have no protection, and no source outside yourself to draw upon. I allow another power, greater than me, to work through me, casting out and expelling demons with the power of the word, and I watch spirits depart from people who shrivel up like cursed trees."


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:43 PM
Check this out, and this is from experience, if you claim to be an estate, a judge will ask you Who granted you an estate (as if you own the estate). If you answer anything other than the creator, or god, he will rip you to shreds. Estate law dictates, estates are granted, created, and established, by your father, and his father, all the way back to the creater who established the first estate and trust.


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:43 PM
"Paul Rowe: You will never know this power, little ones, until God has admitted and licenced you to exercise this power, which comes from understanding the source of the natural law, from which all other law is derived and originates." ..uhh- so yeah, what will happen when Scott Duncan catches on that you are talking like this in his group is give you a stern-warning first, then just flat-out ban you if you continue, Paul Rowe So dont say nobody tried to warn you...


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:46 PM
You cannot own an estate, you are a custodian of an estate, and if you claim to own one.... you get SQUISH, just like a grape


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:47 PM
A lien effectively allows you to OWN the revenue... and/or debt...


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 7:48 PM
the executor is property of the estate. The servant is not greater than the master. If you claim no master, one will be appointed for you. The ashkanazi jews, who werent really jewish, but needed a religion as political cover understood this


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 7:49 PM
OK....what about Bill of Exchange ?? :/


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:50 PM
The property is still theirs I have just hijacked it the way it was hijacked from me... To the best of my KNOWLEDGE, there is no GOD. Except as an Imaginary Friend Created in a book of fables we currently base our legal system on. So Mythology is god... not any tangible thing at all.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:51 PM
what do you want to know Pete


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:52 PM
when I say Creator I say the creator of the document known as the birth certificate for the all caps name.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 7:52 PM
Derek Moran, Pierre- did the 'Mr. Flaherty' answer that letter? No he did not, and no one did....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 7:53 PM
from which comes the TRUST.. ^^^^^^ up 2 response


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 7:55 PM
OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ?


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 7:56 PM
My take on 'The Creator,' in terms of LAW is - who CREATED government? MAN did. Hence- 'The Creator' being spoken about, is actually US! CANADIAN BILL OF RIGHTS (...the Canadian Nation is founded upon principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God)...AND...(the rule of law); CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize (the supremacy of God) AND (the rule of law): ..my favourite character in this movie is- 'The Scar(es)crow' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yejtZgzB5Ik


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 7:57 PM
The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say) Is that make sense ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 7:58 PM
OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say) Is that make sense ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 7:59 PM
can the corporations that holds the trust then right promissory notes???? and the only one that I will trust with the answer is Scott Duncan


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:00 PM
So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:00 PM
oh boy... it is becoming clearer and clearer, fuck I am a happy man right now...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:01 PM
My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 8:01 PM
Heres a skelaton key, to all american law. I gotta get back to work. Later. THAT "All acts of legislature apparently contrary to natural right and justice are, in our laws and must be in the nature of things, considered as void. The laws of nature are the laws of God; whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth. A legislature must not obstruct our obedience to him from whose punishments they cannot protect us. All human constitutions which contradict his laws, we are in conscience bound to disobey. Such have been the adjudications of our courts of justice." (Robin v. Hardaway, 1 Jefferson 109, 114 (1772)). Here are two: 1.) "This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this; ... upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these" � William Blackstone, The Commentaries of the Law of England, Volume I, "Of the Rights of Persons," at 41 (1765); and 2.) �The institutions of our society are founded on the belief that there is an authority higher than the authority of the State; that there is a moral law which the State is powerless to alter; that the individual possesses rights, conferred by the Creator, which government must respect. The Declaration of Independence stated the now familiar theme: �We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.� And the body of the Constitution as well as the Bill of Rights enshrined those principles.� McGowan v. Maryland, 366 US 420, 563, Supreme Court (1961). Both of these are found in Glassroth v. Moore, 229 F. Supp. 2d 1290 - Dist. Court, MD Alabama 2002 describing the inscriptions on the removed monument. "The essence of our free Government is "leave to live by no man's leave, underneath the law"�to be governed by those impersonal forces which we call law. Our Government is fashioned to fulfill this concept so far as humanly possible. The Executive, except for recommendation and veto, has no legislative power." Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 US 579, 655, Supreme Court (1952).


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:02 PM
By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:02 PM
Yep, sound right.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:03 PM
OK...where the fuck GOD fit in this ?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 8:04 PM
when you figure that out, you got it all licked. LOL


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:05 PM
What do you think is a reasonable amount to expect a response from the Bank of Canada related to a bill sent to them?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 13, 2013 8:05 PM
Last attempt, you are not under the law if you claim this religious right, in any country. Gotta go later.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:05 PM
I think the point is all laws were created under GOD ( imaginary)... to uphold and reinforce the belief in the NOBLE LIE... So really all one big fucking lie to keep us indebted.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:05 PM
OK....lets do it again.... OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say) Is that make sense ? So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?... My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ? By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:06 PM
Good question Gail Blackman, I have no idea :D


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:07 PM
Gail Blackman, depends upon the terms you set... common practice seems to be 30 days..


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:07 PM
They received my registered mail July 18th, I`ve not heard anything nor has my dentist


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:07 PM
What were your terms?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:07 PM
ok I didn`t set any terms, I`m thinking I need to follow up with them


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:08 PM
I've read all the cases probably 10 times each


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:08 PM
Yep it is up to you...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:09 PM
that document the birth certificate was created by man and women just like you and me. once I file a lien on the property because nobody can sing John Wade frisbey .on the property of the trust which is held by hive corporation I don't have to believe in a sky dady for that so stop spreading the bullshit


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:10 PM
Paul Rowe, Religious and right do not belong in the same sentence.. in my opinion. That is what got us here in the first place... fuck


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:11 PM
I comprehend what you are saying... just do not agree with it. It is of No matter if it is part of their Laws, with a TRUST, I do not adhere to such imaginations.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:14 PM
Gail Blackman standard operating procedure seems to be 3 notices then an action... for cause if not responded to.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:17 PM
What the fuck are you talking about Jason F. LeBlanc ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:18 PM
OK....lets do it again.... OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say) Is that make sense ? So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?... My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ? By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:20 PM
gal blackman the secret is about holding your contract if they keep it for 72 hours they accepted it if they send it back to you they are in dishonor and you file a default judgement on them.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:21 PM
what contract....what the hek you guys are talking about ??


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:22 PM
even if they send it back you take him to court and you tell them to explain why they don't accept of a currency


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 8:22 PM
I am back....logically, I see Pete 's way. I don't see why we would have to stamp these things and do this, and fluff this....I don't get it. I do think Jason is right that we should Notorially default them on it too....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:22 PM
the bill of Exchange Act of 1933. if they send it back to you you're holder in due course.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:22 PM
honestly Pete Daoust I do not know, it appears right... I was referring to collecting on a lien... but it seems that 3 times notice followed with a default is standard operating procedure, regardless if it 72 hours or whatever, with a TRUST... If one doesn't hear back it is consent by silence...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:24 PM
This should be the Bill of Exchange thread and HOW we discharge these debts that are sent to the PERSON we all have in our pocket....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:25 PM
The Bill Of Exchange way eliminates debt ( all the stamps, it is more than just fluff... fuck)... our goal is to take the debt out of the banks hands, by doing a B O E we actually discharge debt.... it ceases to exist... diminishing the hold the banks have on everyone...one step further... crypto-currency....


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 8:26 PM
Yes!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:27 PM
being the creditor. not the debtor.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:28 PM
Tie that in with Notice of Mistake and Duty Paid, New originals... we have a royal flush.... all the banks right down the drain.. as creditor.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:28 PM
So I can either buy back that debt, and send a check or.......... OK, there are three parties to a Bill of Exchange, the drawer, the drawee and the payee.....who is who ? The drawer = PIERRE DAOUST The Drawee = Bank of Canada The Payee = The ticket company ( City of Toronto let say) Is that make sense ? So when that ticket company (City of Toronto let say) send PIERRE DAOUST that bill of exchange, it is INCOMPLETE right ?... My job, as the lawful holder in due course of PIERRE DAOUST is to complete that thing...right ? By ACCEPTING it, sign it and put the PIERRE DAOUST's account number on it and send it to the drawee, which is the Bank of Canada .....right ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:31 PM
all those stamps above so they can transfer to a collection agency


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:31 PM
and yes you're correct on the above


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:32 PM
No, I think a better way is to not want to buy back the debt but to want to discharge the debt.... The accepted for value way moves the debt.... All the stamps on a document do is keep it out of the banks hands and discharge the debt into nothing ness... for $1.05


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:32 PM
corporate seal is their signature your signature make that money two signatures on a document make something lawfull currency


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:33 PM
I've studied about money for 15 years


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:33 PM
I talked to Scott on the telephone for 1 hour and 37 minutes 11 seconds and he help me put the pieces together


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:35 PM
:D


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:37 PM
ok just so i`m clear...My dentist bill has his stamp on it...I signed the back, dated it and put my SIN on it....it`s been almost a month and no response at all....should I send a notice to them to them confirming their receipt of my signed bill and set a term of 30 days for a check to be issued to my dentist?


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Derek Moran

Aug 13, 2013 8:38 PM
http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/ftf-eng.asp


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:38 PM
its called flipping the script on those bitches


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:39 PM
Nice find Derek Moran.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:39 PM
oh and I so love the art of war


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:40 PM
if you have not heard anything that has been discharged it done what you wanted


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:41 PM
since you're in the Bible says I'm a general I know my orders are followed when I tell my man to do something I don't question it I trust it


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:41 PM
No news is good news maybe it has been accepted, who is to dispute it?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:42 PM
my dentist hasn`t heard or received anything though


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:42 PM
you are queen your order was obeyed and discharged as you requested on your advice remittance


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:43 PM
as far as he is concerned I still owe him


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:45 PM
Then a follow up document may be in order.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:45 PM
2nd notice...


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:46 PM
72 hours later 3 notice, 72 hours later Default, then a lien against the appropriate government account..


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:47 PM
Just send them another letter Gail Blackman and ASK them if you are RIGHT in your thinking


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:47 PM
hey Jason would you do me a favor and tell that guy that posted that stuff is absolutely correct.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:47 PM
What guy...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:47 PM
Jason F. LeBlanc, why do you tell Gail Blackman to do this ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:48 PM
if I go to the gas station give them money are they going to come after me? the same thing you're giving them lawful currency which is a species of money it's not legal tender but its lawful currency that's all.


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:48 PM
She is trying to settle a debt from her dentist... and the government is not meeting the need, they perhaps need to be reminded, or I am way out in left field. Pete Daoust


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:49 PM
And WHO confirmed that the Bank of Canada HAVE to meet that need ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:51 PM
WHO own these teeth I HAVE in MY mouth ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:51 PM
when this was brought up (about my dentist bill) in an earlier post , Derek Moran mentioned that the bank of canada was the only institution that could create money from our signature or valuable consideration...which was liked by scott


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:52 PM
I never said anything to the Bank of Canada you supposed to send it to the company back to the company


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 8:53 PM
Well it may be part of the TRUST that was created way back by the Gov't. King George III Proclamation of 1763 as an agreement to see to our fundamental needs by creating a account to cover our costs in exchange for exploiting our natural resources. Except we do not have the benefit of that due to our trustee status... so we have to make them.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:54 PM
Was it a PUBLIC NAME or a PRIVATE name on that dentist bill Gail Blackman ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:55 PM
Pierre Daoust is NOT: PIERRE DAOSUT 26X-XXX-XXX


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:56 PM
It wasn`t spelled all caps, but I`m not sure I can go by that, the dentist was clueless when I talked about all of this, so he wouldn`t know the difference


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:56 PM
I guess this shit works BOTH ways ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:56 PM
the company that we are dealing with is a fiduciary of that bill you have to send it back and then they send it to the Bank of Canada


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 8:57 PM
I sent it at his request....he said he would have to see his lawyer before he could send it


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 8:58 PM
then he does not know how to do business


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 8:58 PM
Well....ask the dentist or anyone to send a BILL to: GAIL BLACKMAN SIN No.___________ Inscription No.__________ Address and THAT bill should be considered being sent to the PERSON you have in your pocket, which has a SURETY with Bank of Canada, and is a PUBLIC NAME.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:01 PM
JOHN WADE FRISBEY john Wade Frisbey all same thing it is your signature that counts


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:01 PM
you`re likely right Who-are You Frisbey I was making his head spin telling him just this little bit of info


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:03 PM
I am just a better account of my own trust damn it


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:05 PM
PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is NOT "ME" Pierre Daoust is "ME", I TOOK that name to communicate with other humans PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX is a PERSON that was created by the Government.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:05 PM
I need to see what you sent you are gave you. Did he have his signature on it?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:05 PM
no,the bill had his stamp/logo on it


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:07 PM
OK..Gail Blackman, to WHOM that bill was sent to ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:07 PM
he gave me the bill in his office


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:07 PM
And WHO is that "ME"


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:07 PM
it was addressed to my name


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:08 PM
what name ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:08 PM
Gail Blackman


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:09 PM
and who is Gail Blackman ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:09 PM
See he didn't complete the document he the owner of his company and they're happy two signatures on it to become lawful currency coming to do it again and that you're send it in again but you just need a signature it it makes it money he thinks he's going to get in trouble or something when you're taking on the responsibility of the beneficiary


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:10 PM
and who is Gail Blackman ?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:10 PM
maybe the simplest way, is the government created it ( the name), so they are surety for it, but need to be reminded of it...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:10 PM
Plus you can also file a claim in the newspaper that. Doing a proper public notice file a lien and then default judgement on it and then have the sheriff go to the Bank of Canada and receive the funds to pay the doctor


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:10 PM
I thought that a stamp/logo was also considred a signature?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:11 PM
and who is Gail Blackman ?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:11 PM
yes that is the other signature needed to create lawful currency... logo = signature


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:12 PM
and who is Gail Blackman ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:13 PM
and who is Gail Blackman ? :/


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:13 PM
Gail Blackman is the living being, holder in due course to a bill of exchange...beneficiary of GAIL BLACKMAN


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:14 PM
patience Pete Daoust haha


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:15 PM
I'm just saying he The doctor owner of the company would have made it easier if you would just sing the damn thing


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:15 PM
So the bill was made to Gail Blackman or to a person named GAIL BLACKMAN ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:15 PM
find what Who-are You Frisbey?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:16 PM
So the bill was made to Gail Blackman or to a person named GAIL BLACKMAN ? :D :D


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:16 PM
The dentist typed like this Gail Blackman but I am hesitant to assume he knows the difference between what he used and the all caps


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:17 PM
I`m sure if I said to him....Dr blah blah would you consider me a person...he would say yes sure....he wasn`t aware of any of this stuff


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:18 PM
It's not the all caps Gail Blackman, can you prove that this bill has ANYTHING to do with GAIL BLACKMAN the PERSON that has been created by the Government who are SURETY for it ?


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 9:19 PM
I agree!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:19 PM
No, you ask the dentist to make the bill to: GAIL BLACKMAN SIN NO. 26X-XXX-XXX That's all


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:19 PM
The only time the name matters in Spelling is when your in Court... Scott Duncan quote paraphrased...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:20 PM
So now the bill concerns a PERSON, that you happen to be the lawful hoder in due course, and you treat it as...


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Aug 13, 2013 9:21 PM
I don't care HOW they spell that fucking thing, if the bill concern the PERSON and I can prove it....who cares ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:22 PM
And we are ACTing according to the bills of Exchange ACT


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:22 PM
Hey...guess what ?....in the stupid mailbox tonight, I might pick up a bill.....maybe for "ME", or maybe for that person named PIERRE DAOUST 26X-XXX-XXX


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:23 PM
ok I get what you are saying Pete Daoust devils advocate here, if Gail Blackman isn`t able to pay with gold, how is the living being meant to pay the dentist?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:23 PM
If it's for "ME", I will pay that sucker....


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:23 PM
how will you pay it Pete Daoust?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:23 PM
I don't know gail, but I'm sure Scott Duncan have great ideas on this :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:24 PM
I will FIX that matter before I contract with this dentist....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:24 PM
Ask him what law are you breaking your fowlling the act


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:24 PM
I could offer services in payment to the dentist, but it`s his choice if legal tender is all he will accept?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:25 PM
You should have fix this BEFORE he touches your teeth :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:25 PM
Bring him 3000 tomatoes and see what he will say :D


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:25 PM
that is true, there was a mix up with my insurance which is why I`m in this situation in the first place :S


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:26 PM
Take the bank account at that small claims court


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:26 PM
don't pay it discharge it... however if you weer provided with a service and you have surety.... You have one right as well as your dentist the right not to contract... Honor is important.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:26 PM
Fuck....you guys don't get it ? :(


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 9:26 PM
Services???? I think we will see a Scott appearence soon!!!!


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 9:27 PM
I am sure I know his definition of Services!!!!1


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:27 PM
I agree Jason F. LeBlanc I want to not pay him and used this opportunity for learning


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:27 PM
Go after the insurance company for breech of contract. sound like they started the whole mess. invoice them...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:28 PM
For fuck sakes :(


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:28 PM
what are we not getting Pete Daoust?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:28 PM
If you were given the services in good faith...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:29 PM
You PRIVATLY ask a dentist to fix your teeth correct ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:30 PM
You have NOT discuss payment method with him about this PRIVATE contract correct ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:30 PM
It`s a date issue with the insurance company...both the dentist and I thought the year ended at a particular date, but it turns out it was a different date and I had reached my maximum


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:31 PM
I'm taking a break


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:31 PM
I pay through insurance normally...but the date mix up threw a wrench into everything


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:31 PM
ok Who-are You Frisbey thanks for your input


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:32 PM
ah... so do you have new coverage or what? Where is the lapse?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:33 PM
both the dentist and I thought the year ended at a particular date, but it turns out it was a different date and I had reached my maximum....so both of you are ______ ? :D


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Chris Evan

Aug 13, 2013 9:33 PM
MISTAKEN


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:34 PM
oh ... nice one.


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:34 PM
the plan started july 20XX, but we found out the hard way that the plan for dental is jan - dec...so ive what they allot for this year ...we thought it went july - june


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:35 PM
I did say when I started with this dentist, I do not want to have to pay without being given the choice....if insurance doesn`t cover it then I likely won`t get the work done


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:36 PM
After or Before the job was done ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:36 PM
this particular issue I had to get done because of the pain BUT as far as I knew at that time I was covered and he even waited til July to claim to be sure


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:37 PM
hey look at that, a term or condition to contract, with a mistake.. hmmm


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:37 PM
when i first started with this dentist 2 or 3 years ago


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 9:37 PM
This is all about knowing how to hold your claim of the bill of exchange people


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:38 PM
WHO is responsible to verify if the insurance is on or off ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:39 PM
I would say they are especially since that was an issue I brought forward in the very beginning


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:40 PM
If the INsurance is NOT surety anymore, then WHO become SURETY in this specific matter ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:41 PM
I would say they are.... Gail Blackman, you need to find out the RIGHT 100% sure answer on this....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:41 PM
so how can you be liable for their mistake? based on your caveat, as long as it's covered by insurance...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:41 PM
Jason F. LeBlanc, what makes you THINK it's THEIR mistake ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:44 PM
Oh fuck, I think I have the solution :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:44 PM
WHO WAS INSURED IN THIS ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:45 PM
I`d like to find an honourable solution, an upset dentist can be detrimental to ones mouth lol


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:45 PM
it is my husbands insurance, family coverage


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:45 PM
WHO WAS INSURED IN THIS ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:46 PM
WHO WAS INSURED IN THIS specific deal ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:46 PM
its my husbands work iinsurance....everyone in the family is covered by it for dental...so its through his work but it is me that is covered...is that what you mean?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:47 PM
GAIL BLACKMAN WAS INSURED SIN No. 26X-XXX-XXX correct ?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:47 PM
if she said, I will get the work done as long as it is covered by insurance, before the work was done, the insurance company said it didn't cover due to maximums reached.... both parties assumed that everything was cool.... The dentist as part of his due diligence should have checked, The liable party for the work shifted due to this error... So assuming coverage was in place both parties are responsible to some extent..


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:48 PM
and where did you get that stuff from Jason F. LeBlanc ?


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:48 PM
well it would be my hubby likely that was insured with his SIN


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:49 PM
since it was through his work company


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:49 PM
However the SIN is coverage.... hmm


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:50 PM
The name of a PERSON named GAIL BLACKMAN must be in the insurance contract that insure the PERSON your husband have in his pocket correct ?


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:50 PM
Pete Daoust, it came from my mind and what I know about surety...


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:50 PM
INsurance company INsure PERSONS only....not human correct ?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:51 PM
So YOUR dentist MUST draw a BoE address to GAIL BLACKMAN Social Insurance Number 26X-XXX-XXX. No choice


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:51 PM
that would make sense Pete Daoust


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:52 PM
And then, the SURETY of that person have to take care of that DEBT


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:52 PM
the dentist has no issue with that, its the bank of canada that hasnt responded yet


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:53 PM
When the Bank of Canada will have NO DOUBT that this BoE concerns one of THEIR PERSONS, they will have to do something about it....


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August le Blanc

Aug 13, 2013 9:53 PM
ttyl gotta go... good luck.


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Gail Marie

Aug 13, 2013 9:53 PM
Thanks Jason F. LeBlanc


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:55 PM
But right now they might be looking at your bill and say...mmmhhh, who is this human (stranger) that want us to take care of PRIVATE stuff ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 9:56 PM
PUBLIC NAME -- private name PUBLIC DEBTS -- private debt


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Aug 13, 2013 9:57 PM
public private public private public private public private public private public private :D :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 10:30 PM
Derek Moran What is this ? :/ 2007 Transition Trust: $614 million over 2 years


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Pete Daoust

Aug 13, 2013 10:34 PM
and this ?? :/ :/ 2004 Wait Times Reduction Fund: $4.25 billion over 5 years


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 10:35 PM
I can get a lot of people believe in the sky daddy that has no fucking proof


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 10:35 PM
But I even show you proof in law and whatever and you guys still won't believe me about something that I can show you in fact


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 13, 2013 11:12 PM
http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0TIMSS_nCHg&h=zAQGsFb_U&s=1


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August le Blanc

Aug 14, 2013 1:38 AM
well we have established you are not crazy Who-are You Frisbey that is a good day. ;-)


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August le Blanc

Aug 14, 2013 1:43 AM
Adam Thomas


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 1:58 AM
DILLIGAF= Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck ;-)"


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 2:01 AM
John will answer accordingly Chris. ..relax max...chill out time & smoke em up De peace pipe brothers...& sisters.....blaze. ..or become blazed...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 4:58 AM
well I've smoked a bowl and I come back at it


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David Johansen

Aug 14, 2013 5:06 AM
i have proof frisbey, but it is impossible for me to explain it to you unless you were actually there at the time when i could have explained it and have that make sense. merely coincidences of serendipity.


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Chris Evan

Aug 14, 2013 5:19 AM
No No Adam, Frisbey had his chance. I know American law! I may not get BoE's. I may not get buck o fives, but I certainly know American law, American history, the story of the enslavement of the sovereigns, and history of currency in America. I am no expert, but I am no novice. Frisbey has displayed to me complete ignorance of it. I have nothing left to say. Frisbey, I hope the Notice of Mistake does everything you think it will!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 5:26 AM
hahahahaha inhale hahahahahaha


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 5:27 AM
the bong is so smooth


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 6:33 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....you're a funny kunt john.........woohoo.....where's my cone ye greedy kunt??


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 6:36 AM
too bad Chris you're fighting years and years and years of programming I wish you luck


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 6:45 AM
don't get your knickers in a bunch Adam


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 6:48 AM
knicks are wet from urine and sum one has become all nasty because of a word......hmmmm.......should I explain or not?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 6:48 AM
I also take what you said Chris is some kind of threat is that implied or inferred for did in anyway in your above comment?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 6:55 AM
well let's see if you can find me catch me if you can mother fucker


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:04 AM
Gail Blackman ok so for everyone`s benefit I`ll post the definitions I found... ACCEPTANCE, n. (16c) 1. An offeree's assent, either by express act or by implication from conduct, to the terms of an offer in a manner authorized or requested by the offeror, so that a binding contract is formed.� If an acceptance modifies the terms or adds new ones, it generally operates as a counteroffer


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:13 AM
AS(as), n. [Latin]l. Roman law. A pound weight or a coin weighing a pound, divisible into 12 parts, called unciae. � As and the multiples of its unciae were used to denote interest rates. See UNCIA. 2. Roman & civil law. A whole inheritance; the whole of an asset. PI. asses. INDORSE, vb. (16c) To sign (a negotiable instrument), usu. on the back. either to accept responsibility for paying an obligation memorialized by the instrument or to make the instrument payable to someone other than the payee. Also spelled endorse. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:17 AM
Gail Blackman INCHOATE INSTRUMENT. (1834) An unrecorded instrument that must, by law, be recorded to serve as effective notice to third parties .� Until the instrument is recorded, it is effective only between the parties to the instrument. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman RETURN, n. (ISc) 1. A court officer's bringing back of an instrument to the court that issued it; RETURN OF WRIT <a sheriff's return of citation>. [Cases: Execution C=>330-347.] 2. A court officer's indorsement on an instrument brought back to the court, reporting what the officer did or found <a return of nulla bona>. See FALSE RETURN (1). COMPLETE in itself, adj. (I8c) (Of a legislative act) fully covering an entire subject Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:21 AM
Gail Blackman STAMP DUTY. Hist. A tax raised by requiring stamps sold by the government to be affixed to designated documents, thus forming part of the perpetual revenue. See stamp tax under TAX. [Cases: Internal Revenue 4390-4409; Taxation (;::2218.] "A fifth branch of the perpetual revenue consists in the stamp duties, which are a tax imposed upon all parch� ment and paper whereon any legal proceedings, or private instruments of almost any nature whatsoever, are written: and also upon licenses ... and pamphlets containing less than six sheets of paper. These imposts are very various, according to the nature of the thing stamped, rising gradu� ally from a penny to ten pounds: 1 William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 312-13


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:26 AM
Gail Blackman WITHOUT RECOURSE (I8c) (In an indorsement) without liability to subsequent holders.� With this stipulation, one who indorses an instrument indicates that he or she has no further liability to any subsequent holder for payment. Unlike � 2 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman NEGOTIABLE, ad). (18c) 1. (Of a written instrument) capable of being transferred by delivery or indorsement when the transferee takes the instrument for value, in good faith, and without notice of conflicting title claims or defenses. [Cases: Bills and Notes ~144.]2. (Of a deal, agreement, etc.) capable ofbeing accomplished. 3. (Of a price or deal) subject to further bargaining and possible change. NON(non). [Latin] (l4c) Not; no.� This term negates, sometimes as a separate word and sometimes as a prefix. TRANSFER, n. (14c) 1. Any mode of disposing of or parting with an asset or an interest in an asset, including a gift, the payment of money, release, lease, or creation of a lien or other encumbrance .� The term embraces every method - direct or indirect, absolute or conditional, voluntary or involuntary - of disposing ofor parting with property or with an interest in property, including retention of title as a security interest and foreclosure of the debtor's equity of redemption. 2. Negotiation of an instrument according to the forms oflaw .� The four methods of transfer are by indorsement, by delivery, by assignment, and by operation oflaw. [Cases: Bills and Notes C=::> 176-222.] 3. A conveyance of property or title from one person to another. [ Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 7:29 AM
Gail Blackman SUPRA PROTESTt. (Of a debt) under protest. See PROTEST PROTEST, n. (ISc) . 3. A formal statement, usu. in writing, disputing a debt's legality or validity but agreeing to make payment while reserving the right to recover the amount at a later time .� The disputed debt is described as under protest. Edited � Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman OFFEROR (ah-f<'lr-or). (1882) One who makes an offer. Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago Gail Blackman OFFEREE (ah-f;lr-ee). (1882) One to whom an offer is made. Like � 1 � More � 5 hours ago


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:44 AM
the only rule of my group is I have no tolerance for liars


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:46 AM
I have suspected as you as being one of the Watchers from the first day I met you Chris thanks for confirming that


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:47 AM
you are now feel the slight tingling sensation followed by banned


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:52 AM
I don't want to force you sharing my knowledge upon you in star moon night


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David Johansen

Aug 14, 2013 8:54 AM
frisbey since when did you become the tingler? did you get a permit?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:55 AM
well I create my own group and I don't have to let people at that I don't like David


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 8:55 AM
I mean I won't force my knowledge on anybody I'm sorry if its truth hurts I can't I can't help that but I'm not going to force anybody to listen to me


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:04 AM
I ask you what value has Chris brought to this group?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:08 AM
if there's a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed its just sprinkling For the may Queens


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:13 AM
the value I bring it I'm a profiler of personalities and I know who I'm talking to


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:16 AM
so sit back and listen I'm about to explain about the keys that were missing


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:17 AM
it's a big fucking club and you're not part of it


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:17 AM
They fucking lied to you


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 9:20 AM
It's all about accounting and these are the stamps. What a mother fucker puts on different caps . What damn Papa Tony the next time a king. I'll even play at jester if you know what I mean. So you can take all that bullshit back to Boston if you know what I mean.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:17 AM
Boston boys hey...David David Johansen, where you from again please mate....careful though as that other krazy yank kunt called Mr frisbey, has the buzz button & tingle tingle stick coz he's a crazy muthafucka ...oh...wait a minute...did I just do a Derek & say thay sjit out loud in PUBLIC......HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA WOOOHOO....PARTY TIME KUN.........


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:20 AM
Youve got tjis John. ..covered with Gail Blackman very nicely....it's easy over the phone though...actually talking & hearing & connecting between a few in the group already & it's GROUSE....LOOK THAT WORD UP....


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David Johansen

Aug 14, 2013 10:23 AM
darn shame what you say is not comprehensible.


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:24 AM
Hey wake up you yankee kunts....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:25 AM
Hahahahahaha....


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:27 AM
David, grouse is aussie slang for awesum...shithot...great...spectacular....wickedly good etc etc


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:30 AM
I'd like to chat to you Dave. ..what say ye? Derek Moron, turned jis nose up at my request to communicate via telephone. ...and look at the shit he did after he ignored my request....sigh....yep...loooonng reach from this MAN downunder Dave. ..hahahahahahahahahaha


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Adam Thomas

Aug 14, 2013 10:31 AM
Well here's mine if ye want... +61 00 0458 991 832


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 10:41 AM
But I don't wanna. Because I already fucking have


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 10:46 AM
We spoke it in bloody English Adam What did they want. The Stamp Act accounting act the Bills of Exchange Act there's many acts that were using for the Bills of Exchange Act letters of credit notes bonds securities very many different species of money


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 14, 2013 12:52 PM
Over payment coupon goes the non transferable non-negotiable without recourse


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Derek Moran

Aug 18, 2013 10:50 PM
Dory Alexander- please report to this thread, all your questions on why Adam Thomas is no longer part of this page will be answered by yourself...then- you can move onto demanding from Scott on just why Who-Are-You Frisbey isnt either anymore(NOT my doing, he was HONOURABLE in his contracts) and/or, DEMAND to know from Kate Butler why Leigh Collins is no longer a part of this page also Signed, "The ROCK SAYS....."


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Pete Daoust

Aug 18, 2013 11:18 PM
LOL.....and why is I am STILL in here ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 18, 2013 11:18 PM
And why in the world Derek Moran is an admin ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 18, 2013 11:19 PM
Oh, and why Dean Clifford is NOT in jail :/


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Ceit Butler

Aug 18, 2013 11:24 PM
I think I have MORE than covered the reasons in the other thread! :)


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Derek Moran

Aug 19, 2013 1:33 AM
No- not you Kate, i deleted it out of anger, but...Dory Alexander had posted a comment- "demanding to fucking know from me" why Adam got banned, and, "dont send me an explanation by private-message, post it publicly in the FORUM"....*sighs, stares at the computer screen, blinks* I remember a time when people came on here everyday just to soak-up as much from Scott as they could - now....... Signed, 'As The Tender For Law Turns' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbwVYg93Ccg


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Pete Daoust

Aug 19, 2013 1:35 AM
LOL...:D


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Ceit Butler

Aug 19, 2013 2:53 AM
Then follow Scott's example, and start exercising Extreme Topic Control on your threads. Delete off-topic comments with a warning...stay on topic, or else.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 19, 2013 3:03 AM
Extreme Topic Control ? :/....I might get a few slaps every now and then :/


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Derek Moran

Aug 20, 2013 2:14 AM
No Dory, nobody ever accused Adam Thomas of being a cheat. Just a dick. Read what he wrote. OH - and for all of you Adam Thomas fans, he is currently trying to foul ChiefRock's page by encouraging Paul Rowe to join it also based on all the VALUE Paul Rowe brought to The Tender For Law while he was here. Reminder...Scott banned Paul Rowe for pushing the OPPT, AND, God and/or Jesus and/or The Bible on here. Sincerely, RES IPSA LOQUITOR and/or CONSIDER THE SOURCE and/or TRUE COLOURS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8


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Pete Daoust

Aug 20, 2013 2:32 AM
LOL :D


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Derek Moran

Aug 20, 2013 4:03 PM
"Why you had to?" A: you're being deliberately obtuse, Dory Alexander B: you're showing reckless indifference towards reading the thread C: you're exhibiting wilfull blindness towards reading the thread D: you havent read the thread E: all of the above


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Derek Moran

Aug 20, 2013 4:11 PM
You know what, Dory Alexander - once Scott Duncan is finished taking his Paul Rowe-induced shower...why dont you ask him yourself if he wants someone on his page who ADVOCATES-by-association OPPT/Bible/Jesus/God/bullshit-talk? (from ChiefRock's page) Adam Thomas: Is Paul Rowe, a member here?? If not he should be because he has a lot of great knowledge that he shared in the t4lg. Join in Paul.


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Scott Duncan

Aug 20, 2013 4:14 PM
SPOILER ALERT: No he doesn't.


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Derek Moran

Aug 20, 2013 4:19 PM
This calls for a celebration! *hoists-a-pint* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDTAMh0gfPU


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Pete Daoust

Aug 20, 2013 10:15 PM
and makes even Pete to ''LOL''......fuck, I am always lolling :/


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Jeff Roggers

Aug 25, 2013 6:23 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit


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J.c. Of-the Family-Pearson

Aug 29, 2013 7:11 PM
being away enjoying summer is fun except after coming back and seeing these extra long threads i realized it really sucks!


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David Johansen

Sep 02, 2013 3:00 AM
ii


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Chris Evan

Sep 02, 2013 5:29 PM
I finally completed one of these. :-) lets see how it goes


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Pete Daoust

Sep 02, 2013 5:46 PM
I've completed 5 :P


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 1:40 AM
http://crazationsfree.blogspot.com/2009/11/stop-messing-around-read-this-and-study.html?m=1


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:32 AM
Q. What is a Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure and why do I need to use one? A. A Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure is correct procedure and therefore gives the Affiant uncompromised standing. There may be a very genuine reason why the Respondent couldn�t respond; maybe a death in the family, maybe they were hospitalized etc. So you are saying, �just in case there is a genuine reason why you couldn�t respond I am kindly granting you a further three (3) days to respond. You are being nice, and so you should be, as you want to stay honourable at ALL times.


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Bill Wiethaup

Sep 04, 2013 2:35 AM
It's between the first Notice and the Notice of Default. I give 10 days in mine.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:46 AM
Q. Can the Respondent just return it? A. Yes, but then they haven�t responded to the points raised so they are instantly at fault, so you can continue with the Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure due to non response. Damned if they do and damned if they don�t springs to mind


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Bill Wiethaup

Sep 04, 2013 2:48 AM
That's why the Administrative Process is so excellent.


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Bill Wiethaup

Sep 04, 2013 2:50 AM
If you do it right, they CAN"T answer. Automatic default. Finish up the process and get a default judgment. Snag the sheriff and get "paid".


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 3:03 AM
I just got my certified registered mail receipt back today from the mailing of the 27th of August. time for step two of the administrator procedure of the notice


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Bill Wiethaup

Sep 04, 2013 3:08 AM
How many days did you give them to answer your first Notice?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 3:09 AM
I also want to stay I am NOT in agreement with the gods spiritual issues in the post I raised above three or four post


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 3:10 AM
I'm at my first notice which is the second step


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 3:16 AM
1. bills of exchange. 2. negative averment affidavit with notice.3. notice of fault. 4. notice of default.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:32 PM
the bill that they send you is an offer to contract.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:33 PM
when DTE Energy fails to acknowledge the contract completed. I use that administration procedures to default on them. bring it back to the point of the bill of exchange and getting it discharged properly. because DTE Energy has been found and dishonor


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:36 PM
and=in


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 2:54 PM
Foreign summary judgment comes from such a contract of private dealing with the public company. DTE Energy


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 04, 2013 3:04 PM
When you understand what money IS you might just catch this rabbit


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:20 PM
I just received my second shut of fnotice after I filed my Bill of exchange does anybody know my next step I do?


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 7:21 PM
what did the notice say?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:29 PM
that the power will be shut off for non payment they did not acknowledge the bill of exchange so now Iam going to notice of fault and cure


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 7:31 PM
who did you send the BOE to? the billing dept or the CFO?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:32 PM
where is instructed to send payment acceptance means payment if you would read UCC


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:34 PM
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/3-409


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 7:37 PM
I'd send it to the CFO....the workers dont have a clue about this stuff


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:45 PM
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/3-503#3-503


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:46 PM
Gail you could contract however you choose the contract I choose this method


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:47 PM
the way I contract is the way I contracted does not matter


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:49 PM
in the notice of fault that I send them Which claims that they must rebutt point for point. such as why did they not get back with me in 72 hours? if they do not accept that for my payment why did they not send me back my wet stamp ink bill of exchange?


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 7:50 PM
yep


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:52 PM
it is just the administration procedures process that I must follow to stay in honor so that when I file my lean on that that they must satisfy the lien of the Negotiable Instruments before demanding any payment thereof


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 7:54 PM
I am making a claim that they have to disprove


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Scott Duncan

Sep 14, 2013 8:27 PM
No.


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Scott Duncan

Sep 14, 2013 8:27 PM
You must PROVE THE CLAIM.


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Scott Duncan

Sep 14, 2013 8:28 PM
PROOF=RECEIPT


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Scott Duncan

Sep 14, 2013 8:30 PM
Proof of the claim must be provided on demand


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 8:35 PM
you would have to sue them and present your proof ?


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Derek Moran

Sep 14, 2013 8:38 PM
Bill of Lading = Receipt


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Scott Duncan

Sep 14, 2013 8:39 PM
No. The may sue YOU to DEMAND proof.


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Gail Marie

Sep 14, 2013 8:41 PM
they wouldn't likely bother unless you place a lien on them?


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Pete Daoust

Sep 14, 2013 10:30 PM
January 8th 2013. I received a NOTICE from Hydro-Quebec saying that they will cut the service if I don�t pay in the next 7 days. The next day, I sent them a letter telling them I was scared, I don�t have BANK NOTES, and no access to it, and ask if there was ANY other payment method available to PIERRE DAOUST concerning that debt. I also offer to wash windows in exchange for electricity. NO ANSWER, but PIERRE DAOUST has been removed from collection, and no more threats to cut service. May 11th 2013 Same Scenario, I receive a BoE with threats attached to it�.I send back the same exact letter, specifying that this was the 2nd request from me. NO ANSWER, but again, PIERRE DAOUST is removed from collection and no more threats. July 8th 2013. Same thing�.another BoE with threats, Now I send another letter specifying that The BoE act say that they HAVE to inform me on ALL method available, and I insist on the fact that this is the 3rd REQUEST I make, �. NO ANSWER, but PIERRE DAOUST has been removed from collection, and no more threats to cut service. :D August the 6th 2013. Another freaking BoE with a $3800.00 amount on it :D Now, I send them a letter telling them that I am very desapointed of their complete silence, and I discharge this debt through the Bank of Canada..bla bla bla�. I inform them of what I do, and give the FULL explanations on WHY and HOW I do this�. I insist on the fact that this is the 4th communication I send them, and they still stay in complete silence�. Today, September the 14th�NONE A SOUND from either Bank of Canada and/or Hydro-Quebec.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 14, 2013 11:05 PM
Such as the perfected lien on the bill of exchange?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 3:59 AM
proof is when they do not rebutt my affidavit point for point


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 4:11 AM
5. Law The result or effect of evidence; the establishment or denial of a fact by evidence.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 5:31 AM
Now I file a notice of Fault and cure with the notary and also send that to the company. Chief financial officer


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 6:47 AM
Home Ar ti cl e s DTE Energy Company (DTE) EVP/CFO David E Meador sells 17,762 Shares By insider - 1 year ago About DTE EVP/CFO of DTE Energy Company (DTE) David E Meador sells 17,762 shares of DTE on 02/28/2012 at an average price


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 5:07 PM
nice curve ball Scott it made me start thinking about other things


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 15, 2013 5:12 PM
I'm making a claim that I can prove with evident with the receipt of the certified mail and the affidavit from the notary public that witness my signature on the bill of exchange


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 6:17 AM
Also my proof is did not DTE Energy Agree to the corporate Act of the state that they are chartered out of to follow the laws of commercial


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 6:20 AM
The company that I am the major stockholder in agreed to obey the laws of Commerce how are they not?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 6:22 AM
Question did you or did you not agree to obey the laws of Commercial laws of Commerce when you accepted the Charter? If their response is no one there a fraudulent company if their response is yes then they are still in Dishonored of the contract


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 7:41 PM
right here Harold okay


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Harold Austerman

Sep 19, 2013 7:54 PM
got it bro!


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 7:54 PM
right on


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 9:56 PM
I just got off the phone with DTE Energy and they were asking me what did they need to do to rectify the problems haha I started laughing


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Gail Marie

Sep 19, 2013 10:39 PM
that was as a result of you asking them to return the BOE to you?


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 10:53 PM
well after I had called them two or three times they took that information and now see that I am correct about the law that I am talking about and that they are acting in fraud and didn't know how did then take care of it the way I was telling him to take care of it


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 10:54 PM
I told them they contact the IRS and they get credit of account towards their profit and debt losses


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 10:55 PM
the account number that they are to refer to is under my signature on the original bill of exchange I sent them


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 10:57 PM
the funny thing is they said they look up on youtube to verify what I was saying and seen a whole bunch of accept for value and discharge of Debt videos and said all well he's talking the truth


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 19, 2013 11:02 PM
notice of mistake is how you deal and discharge debts in a courtroom bill off exchange is how you deal and discharge debts in a company setting this is all accounting and surety people its all buck o five


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Chris Evan

Sep 20, 2013 12:48 AM
Nice bud!!!


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Bill Wiethaup

Sep 20, 2013 12:54 AM
Excellent


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Blake Gardner

Sep 20, 2013 4:03 AM
You can also discharge via BOE in court IF you can manage to have the original charging instrument materialized and handed to you for your inspection & execution:)


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 20, 2013 4:21 AM
the person I was talking to today must have been a lawyer because he kept on asking legal questions which I kept remind him that the company that he works for is a chartered company and the contract began there are they fraudulent are legitimate business


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 21, 2013 6:16 AM
well today another lawyer called me and said the last thing he was talking about was sending me more shut off notices if I was wrong and he was right why would they just shut off my power why would they have to go to the notice process anybody anybody???


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Harold Austerman

Sep 21, 2013 1:48 PM
scare tactics!!


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Robert Cormier

Sep 21, 2013 2:00 PM
to create joinder and get you on their terms. It's another hot potato.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 21, 2013 5:47 PM
each notice sent is a new contract of offer


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 26, 2013 1:30 PM
in the country of the United States of America I hear everybody b**** about borrowing money from another country well do you know how they do that they use our bill payment remittances to get the loans with.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 26, 2013 4:57 PM
we all seek to be free of the tyranee of the government's then we take upon the tyranee of Scott Duncan instead of thinking for ourselves.


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 26, 2013 5:01 PM
if we're not going to be led by the state and can't think for ourselves then it is better for us to be Scott Duncan drones


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 26, 2013 6:35 PM
if one does not confront their ego they will be subject to someone elses


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Adam Thomas

Sep 30, 2013 11:09 AM
Yes....well done Jeff Roggers. Aka my special friend I call Jeffie. :-D


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Jeff Roggers

Sep 30, 2013 11:15 AM
hey Adam I got a bloody f****** headache so don't think my brains ever going to f****** work


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