The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Jul 24, 2013 8:54 PM

Sino General

A question to all Natives of Turtle Island. I read a post today with quite a few case law studies that are indicating due to the BENEFIT of the so called PROTECTION OF THE CROWN. The European English Law of Canada has full right and jurisdiction over all lands and Nations across Turtle Island. I questioned that position and i ask you now what is your thoughts on whether CANADA/US has any real claim to do what they do to the land and people whom are original to these lands?? Now, please post your views only, no need to name call or what not. Also, here is a reply to my questioning, this is a so called Native from the U.S. you tell me ?? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- or the record, I am not a Canadian but as someone in the United States that is Native American, people like you make me sick. We have your type here too - the people that cling to their ancestry in order to justify doing anything they don't want on the one hand while gladly taking every benefit they can from the government on the other hand. Your ancestry - in terms of the applicability of the law - is irrelevant. It applies to everyone in Canada, even you. No amount of screaming racism is going to change that. Also, just for the record, nothing is YOUR land or YOUR resources. The ownership of land and resources is determined by the conquerors, not the conquered. You don't have to like it, but it is reality. Even if we were to accept your warped version of reality, the truth is what you think of as YOUR land and YOUR natural resources was at various times owned by other tribes before your tribe took it from them. That is what people did - they form groups and take stuff from other people. Yet somehow if we lived in your fantasy version of reality I doubt you'd want to determine just who REALLY owned what you think is your land, as if we looked I'd bet you just about all of it could be traced to being won by war or some other atrocity against another tribe. You going to hand all that land and resources back to them?

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August le Blanc

1763 proclamation of King George supersedes all treaties and contracts, from my comprehension... the treaties were addendum's to said proclamation..

The constitution recognizes it...

So like us all,

we have been bamboozled into signing our rights away by taking the status given to us when we sign up for and receive the benefits from either SIN or Status card..

Our resources are held in trust... and until we cross over back to original,

we are but meat puppets and cannon fodder...

August le Blanc

Since TRUST law is the highest form of law, it is a agreement between 2 parties...

It is not that the people have been conquered but rather they agreed to terms of a contract ( treaty) to benefit from the TRUST 60/40..

And over time thru devious means, have cultivated our ignorance so we watch things like 24 and think it ok for Jack Bauer just to off people with callus disregard in order to protect us by ignoring everything our fore fathers died and fought for..

A systematic mutli-pronged approach facilitated by horrendous trauma, and then kicking them further while they are down for the count.

No one was conquered in Canada the people agreed to terms and then... look what's that over there...

Do you wanna see me pull a rabbit from my hat..

Whiskey eases the pain and kills you early so here..

Come to our schools and we will teach you to be civilized.... the ability to sue and be sued for what you naturally share amongst your selves.. Oh wait they are beaten now we have taken their children.... destroying the core of learning traditional ways, thru assimilation and degradation....

FUCK.

So not conquered, more liked tricked into acquiescence ...

Derek Moran

*Derek travels to Vancouver and plants-a-flag in the middle of ChiefRock's new apartment* GUESS WHAT, i CLAIM-the-RIGHT to YOUR apartment for MYSELF - END OF STORY

*Derek begins working-on EVICTION-NOTICE for ChiefRock"

August le Blanc

Wait a minute Derek Moran... did ChiefRock Sino General not agree to share 60/40...

Did we not have a trust in place from when you were very young... which you are now in BREACH Of???

Hypothetical and none of my business... just playing along ;-)

Chad Brodgesell

Interesting question. I was Born on this landmass. I do not care what word you might call that. I have a right to claim and hold land and resources as long as there is no current legitimate claim in place. If I stop using said section of land and resources with no intent to use them with in the near future then I have abandoned what I claimed prior. Now others may claim as they wish. It is all about claim and abandonment. That is the way I see it.

August le Blanc

Chad Brodgesell no one abandoned anything they agreed to the use of ... thru treaty...

bamboozled into thinking it has been abandoned...

Just cause you go away for a day or two or on an extended vacation... or

You leased it and then had them manage the building you did a credit check on the tenants, they seemed like good people and they agreed to uphold terms of lease agreement and be stewards of the property.. You come back and it is a CRACK house...

everything of value has been pawned to facilitate the addiction

Is not eviction and compensation for damages a reasonable way to deal with people who do not honour there agreements?

Just cause I park in the airport extended stay parking lot... does not mean I have abandoned my car, it is the care of a trust established when I got my parking stub...

Derek Moran

"Well come with me to the great hall of records across the big pond to show you the original..."

No need to go that far...i came across an interesting term perusing through a Black's Law 6th-edition the other day - FIELD WAREHOUSE/WAREHOUSING :)

August le Blanc

The point I am trying to make is if it was never yours in the first place and the abandonment is but perceived and perhaps mistaken, regardless of intent. DO YOU REALLY HAVE A RIGHT TO IT... who cares what you think the intent of the so called abandonment..

Chad Brodgesell

It was never mine until I claim it and no one counter claims with a legitimate claim then my claim stands. As long as I hold it and do not abandon it. Once I abandon it, it now no longer has a legitimate claim so others may now claim.