Michael Af Sj�lland

Jul 24, 2013 3:41 PM
The video is very good. Thanks. I have a question about legal tender: You said "You are BOUND by ACTS, STATUTES, and CODES when you use MONEY....". Do you mean that using money can make you an inadvertant party to a [tendered] contract? And if almost nobody (eg. me) 'gets it', couldn't one argue that the contract is invalid due to lack of full disclosure or something along those lines?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 24, 2013 4:11 PM
TENDER is an unconditional offer of something. When I TENDER a resignation, it must be ACCEPTED. When they tender "LEGAL", then by using money, you have accepted the offer.


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Derek Moran

Jul 24, 2013 4:19 PM
PRESUMPTION OF LAW: an INFERENCE in favour of a particular fact; a RULE OF LAW, whereby a finding of a basic fact, gives rise to the existence of a presumed fact or state-of-affairs, UNLESS the presumption can be REBUTTED, or proven false, by the party seeking to deny the presumed fact. (Fundamentals of Contract Law, Jean Fitzgerald & Laurence Olivo, Emond Montgomery Publications)


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Chris Evan

Jul 25, 2013 7:15 PM
A FRN states "This Note is legal tender for all debts, public and private.' Does that mean one can use it in a public capacity tendering a public law OR one can use it in a private capacity tendering a private law? Also, in 1971, the Treasury department discontinued the United States Note, which was considered lawful money pursuant to the Legal Tender Act of 1862, and stated that "The FRN serves every purpose the USN did and there is no demand for the USN". I take this to mean that the FRN can be used as LAWFUL MONEY (in a private capacity). I actually have an on going conversation with the Federal Reserve at the moment.....care to add anything.....?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 26, 2013 5:55 AM
The PRIVATE is what attorns a private debt to the government. It is the only thing the courts can LEGALLY enforce. If you go to the goverment, that debt will be enforced...


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Dean Clifford

Jul 26, 2013 5:55 AM
Financial.......Administration.......Act.


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Dean Clifford

Jul 26, 2013 5:56 AM
A.K.A.


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 5:57 AM
so to review: WHO ARE YOU? BY WHAT AUTHORITY!? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Dean Clifford: I Most CERTAINLY consent...on the following terms and conditions....... "Forced Compliance is Acceptance of my Terms and Conditions!" (not a 'Trinity' here, not even close)


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Dean Clifford

Jul 26, 2013 6:00 AM
1. Marginal note:Debt due to Her Majesty (3) Any interest or administrative charge payable pursuant to this section is a debt due to Her Majesty and may be recovered pursuant to section 155 or in any court of competent jurisdiction.


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Dean Clifford

Jul 26, 2013 6:02 AM
"Equality is both mandatory and paramount."


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Dean Clifford

Jul 26, 2013 6:03 AM
A debt due to The Crown in right of Tony Fucking Montana, is a debt due to Tony Fucking Montana and may be recovered in any court of competent jurisdiction.


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:08 AM
Do you remember when you kinda got-short with me on one of Dick-in-his-mouths-shows, when i asked about what do the letters and numbers on the back of the SIN-card mean?...i sent a letter off to Access to Info for that Department, the answer i got back was: "We are unable to divulge this information due to SECURITY REASONS" - LOL


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Scott Duncan

Jul 26, 2013 6:21 AM
SECURITY - Does anyone know what that word means? :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 26, 2013 6:22 AM
Remember: There are NO HOMONYMS IN LAW. There are NO SYNONYMS IN LAW.


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:25 AM
4. An instrument that evidences the holder's ownership rights in a firm (e.g., a stock), the holder's creditor relationship with a firm or government (e.g., a bond), or the holder's other rights (e.g., an option).


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Scott Duncan

Jul 26, 2013 6:27 AM
So they cant tell you for "An instrument that evidences the holder's ownership rights in a firm, the holder's creditor relationship with a firm or government, or the holder's other rights"...reasons? :D At least they didn't lie! :D


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:30 AM
1. Collateral given or pledged to guarantee the fulfillment of an obligation; esp., the assurance that a creditor will be repaid (usu. with interest) any money or credit extended to a debtor


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:31 AM
2. A person who is bound by some type of guaranty; SURETY


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:31 AM
3. The state of being secure, esp. from danger or attack.


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:35 AM
- A security indicates an interest based on an investment in a common enterprise rather than direct participation in the enterprise. Under an important statutory definition, a security is any interest or instrument relating to finances, including a note, stock, treasury stock, bond, debenture, evidence of indebtedness, certificate of interest or participation in a profit-sharing agreement, collateral trust certificate, pre-organization certificate or subscription, transferable share, investment contract, voting trust certificate, certificate of deposit for a security, fractional undivided interest in oil, gas, or other mineral rights, or certificate of interest or participation in, temporary or interim certificate for, receipt for, guarantee of, or warrant or right to subscribe to or purchase any of these things. A security also includes any put, call, straddle, option, or privilege on any security, certificate of deposit, group or index of securities, or any such device entered into on a national securities exchange, relating to foreign currency.


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:37 AM
redeemable security. Any security, other than a short term note, that, when presented to the issuer, entitles the holder to receive a share of the issuer's assets or the cash equivalent. Also termed callable security


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Derek Moran

Jul 26, 2013 6:38 AM
Also termed (in sense 4) evidence of indebtedness; evidence of debt. Cf. SHARE (2); STOCK (4).


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Chris Evan

Jul 26, 2013 1:28 PM
Dean Clifford, I am in the states. Any idea what the Act is down here? I've tried searching a few different key words, but its not returning anything....please. :-)


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Eamonn O Brien

Jul 27, 2013 11:09 AM
So Scott, when a state department (corporation) creates an account for EAMONN O BRIEN, it would be in the "Debtor's Ledger" for that corporation? I think I understand now when you say it's all fraud. Without a contract a corporation cannot create an account on their books, yet they do and then seek a contracting party afterwards for surety...


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Chris Evan

Jul 27, 2013 12:16 PM
hmmm....so thats why they have Policy.


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Chris Evan

Jul 27, 2013 12:16 PM
*Police


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August le Blanc

Jul 27, 2013 12:16 PM
sneaky sneaky...


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Eamonn O Brien

Jul 27, 2013 1:25 PM
The Police are sub-contractors whose role is to go "shopping" for potential ignorant customers/victims... They have also been known to uphold a law here & there... :p


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Mick Parker

Jul 27, 2013 2:53 PM
Oath to law & contracted for statute, recent stomping of feet by our own police recently struck a chord when they threatened to ignore certain statute enforcement as it was discretionary, SO THEY KNOW IT & are willing to play that card pmsl


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Eamonn O Brien

Jul 27, 2013 2:55 PM
Oh absolutely... Mate of mine was done for speeding 2 weeks ago. Last week he foolishly was speeding in the same spot and the same guard pulled him... After a heated argument he "got through" to him on a man to man level and the guard decided to let that one go stating "I didn't realise I did ya last week aswell"...


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Eamonn O Brien

Jul 27, 2013 2:59 PM
It's either "the law" or it's not... Obviously we know it's not, but there must be some level of knowledge amongst them to be able to turn a blind eye at their discretion with no worry of being penalised...


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August le Blanc

Aug 18, 2013 3:28 PM
Tom Messer... again relevant as is every post that is posted as Shit stains are removed thru needing approval to post and do not make it to the TT4L.. There is a reason for every thread in here.... What we are engaged in is not a frivolous venture.


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