Jul 18, 2013 3:13 PM

I do not know anything about a shady trust. But to create a PRIVATE trust Is a different matter....

Create a corporation with you as director and sole shareholder... it is a person under law. Draw up a Trust agreement. Where you are the Director and sole beneficiary and the corporation is the TRUSTEE.

Get an accountant to manage the corporate books.

Shady Trust was in reference to a comment by another poster about Aquilae.

And yes, I am fully aware of that outline, however...in order to create a Corporation here in the States (and what you defined may be construed as a Corp Sole) one needs to produce either a Social Security Number, or other identifying number. Scott also mentioned buying one in Delaware. I actually already have one that was created under a former SSN that I used to use....but how does one create a corporation and keep MYSELF completely separate?

"Draw up a Trust agreement" - how? And doesn't a TRUST just hold property? How, if I personally have the property in my private capacity, do I start a corporation privately?

Also, if I have a corporation, how do I make it so it doesn't have its VALUE stolen through bureaucracy and Statutes?

And this ^ is where I am getting lost

A Private Trust is exactly that PRIVATE... I had to use my all caps name to register the corporation... which is a PRIVATE MATTER of the TRUST.... PUBLIC NOTICE was issued that this is so with the help of TTFL...

PUBLIC NOTICE

TAKE NOTICE that the VESSEL known as JASON FREDRICK LE BLANC is now the LAWFUL PROPERTY of a PRIVATE TRUST per the wishes of the CREATOR and GRANTOR.

Therefore: LET IT BE KNOWN THAT AS OF THIS DATE, BEING FEBRUARY 27, 2013, THE VESSEL KNOWN AS JASON FREDRICK LE BLANC MUST BE CONSIDERED A PRIVATE VESSEL WITH NO COMMERCE EXPECTED AND/OR IMPLIED.

PARTIES ATTEMPTING TO USE JASON FREDRICK LE BLANC FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES MAY BE FINED AT THE RATE OF SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS PER DAY ($6,000 PER DAY) OR ANY PART THEREOF, FOR UNAUTHORIZED USE.

Questions regarding this NOTICE may be addressed to the DULY AUTHORIZED TRUSTEE CORPORATION, [ 1732964 ALBERTA LTD.] at (587) 719-2112.

By: Jason Fredrick Le Blanc President/ Creator/ Grantor/ Sole Beneficiary.

SHADY and TRUST are not compatible... didn't see other post

It is A PRIVATE TRUST... it is what ever you say it it is ;-)

How is using a PUBLIC NAME and/or NUMBER a private matter? I just can't wrap my brain around this.......

If entities wish to contract with you it is on your terms.

The corporation liens the name and it is TRUST PROPERTY.

So, I have a corporation. It has 275,000 shares and I own all of them. It was created through my PUBLIC NAME AND NUMBER. But I DO NOT feel comfortable using it. Am I wrong?

LOOK UP the word PRIVATE...

Ok....so the corporation commissions the TRUST, then the TRUST liens the corporation?

you would be sole shareholder... and director... Scott says to model corporate structure after the USA.. president etc...

I comprehend all of this. I just can't wrap my brain around how starting this with a PUBLIC NAME AND NUMBER isn't going to cause me problems down the road

NO the corporation is TRUSTEE... YOu would be Director and Sole Beneficiary... the corporation follows the TRUSTS wishes..

Lets start over........I start a corporation with my PUBLIC NAME (which I already have)

Then who draws up a trust agreement?

YOU DO..... It is yours .. It s PRIVATE any who wishes to engage has to abide by the TRUSTS BY-LAWS which Are PRIVATE and What ever you say they are... You become the GRANTOR AND CREATOR...

ME or me?

You in the capacity of GRANTOR and CREATOR...

The corporation is an an ASSEST of The TRUST...

isn't a benefit of recognizing and using the PUBLIC NAME, such that you lien the value of it through your corporation, which then gives value to your corporation as well?

being such... your rules your playground...

and yes Gail Blackman

Jason, am I comprehending accurately, to say that any bills currently in my PUBLIC NAME will then have a name change to the name of the trust once I create the trust...and an accountant will take care of ensuring they are paid etc..all the things I do now?

Jason F. LeBlanc, ok...the NAME is liened by the corporation....now, you have to go to hospital, WHO pays WHO regarding that ?....I mean, is the government has no choice but to deal this with THE corporation ?, and then the corporation pays the hospital ?

No Gail Blackman no name change ... the name is trust property for the duration of the lien...

The NAME is your vessel in commerce... it is trust property...if you have to go to the hospital..use the health system use your property... and then take care of it as trust business... utilizing the methods of remittance...

The courts are not authorized to use it until you consent which is NEVER...

PUBLIC NOTICE= BILL OF EXCHANGE

The corporation is TRUST PROPERTY

No comment from Scott Duncan ? Its his trust they speak of here lol...

So the TiTLE (NAME) is administrated by the TRUSTEE ( CORPORATION) which you are the sole shareholder and Director.... which answer to the TRUST of which you are Director and Sole BEneFiciary

NOT speaking of Scott's trust, Discussing the formation and implementation of a PRIVATE TRUST. Which I attribute to knowledge freely shared by Scott Duncan, ChiefRock Sino General all due respect.

The original question was, how to make a trust like Scott Duncan trust.

If anyone were to read a trust book, the first few chapters explain it quite easily...there are pdfs on my contract law page...if anyone is interested, instead of reading posts, a book about it is much easier to find information. Jason F. LeBlanc your comments are good, just saying folks should pick up a book and read once in a while

Yes it was, however it morphed into a This... as I do not feel a tingly sensation .... all must be well

Copy that CheifRock ChiefRock Sino General ;-)

Gail Blackman No name change it is TRUST property once leined, I posted this answer a while ago and it disappeared...

thanks guys....but this has cleared up nothing in my brain. what is a book to read on this?

here is what i dont get....if its private, why is it started pubically. And why does the corporation need to be started publically?

go to ChiefRock Sino General page and look for the pdf's he mentions..

I think the strategy is more related to surviving the admiralty system because everything is so entrenched in it as opposed to being free like a bird would be?

Thanks Jason F. LeBlanc

Oh FFS. I need to sit down to go through all this... I DO have a life you know :P

*sigh*

that Scott Duncan is such a great guy!

The TRUST makes you free

whats FFS?

it makes you more free but you are still bound by trust law ..no?

yep, he is an ANGEL Gail Blackman :D

For Fuck Sakes

Yes, you are bound by trust law... but it is your trust so what is your law?

SCOTT DUNCANISM " What ever the fuck I say it is so FUCK OFF that's why"

To be completely honest I did not get it till I did it... then it all fell into place

I now UNDERSTAND the PRIVATE TRUST to which I am the Director and sole beneficiary...

hitting the books see ya later

see you Jason, thanks

Public name was created by the state, the state is the grantor of that Name...that name was created for the specific use in commerce...it is commercial by creation...if you claim that name you are surety for it...

Rick Carne... WELCOME :D

yes rick, that is exactly my point!

now why would i use it?

Seriously people, he just summed it all up.

Add the Scott Duncanism: "It's ALL ACCOUNTING and SURETY", and you can see exactly how it works.

you must create a proxy to operate the corporation to avoid the liabilities associated with the corporation....

Things would be easy here if everyone grasped those VERY SIMPLE POINTS.

accounting is not just the "counting of numbers"....

yes....that is the answer i am looking for. how does one do thar

later! going to the beach!.......

Accountability

You can count on me I'll pay :D

you must create a proxy to operate the corporation: Another corporation ? :/

A professional with LIMITED LIABILITIES ?

ya pierre...now i am gonna have to figure out what he was talking about

I know what he means, I just can't figure the PROXY form...It has to be someone you TRUST very much.....which bring me TRUSTEE in my head....someone in that corporation need to be the DECISION MAKER, and need to have NOTHING to do with shareholder, administrator, ggggrrrrrrr........

Someone with lots of power, with no shares and not LIABLE to the corporation....Like the CEO of HYDRO-QUEBEC :D

Or the CEO of QRA or CRA :D

Scott Duncan please ? :(

In the Contract-class i was taking, we touched on Trusts BRIEFLY. However, someone did have a question regarding setting up a Trust, and the answer the Instructor gave who is a lawyer was- "A Trust can be set-up through nothing more than a contract"

Of course- being the only one in my class apart of this group i immediately shot my hand up- "All ive ever heard about setting-up a Trust, is that you have to create a corporation in order to do it."

Her answer was- "Well, you can do that too, if you choose to"

"OK, but going by what you just said there- you made it sound like you dont necessarily have to set-up a corporation, in order to set-up a Trust...and that a Trust could be set-up SOLELY through the making of a contract."

Her answer: "Yes. You dont necessarily have to go through setting-up a corporation, you're right."

'Wise-man' once told me- "The CONTRACT she is referring to, is the CHARTER required of in setting-up any Trust"

..but who would be signing as the ACCEPTOR of this contract/Charter, creating this particular TRUST?

The trust starts out with a Grantor. And it's correct in stating that you do not need a corporation to set up the trust.

I may be off in my comprehension but isn't it beneficial to have the corporation for at the least exchanging currency, as a bank does?

witnessed! the constitution was witnessed

Why does everyone talk in CODE?

awwww....don't worry Chris Schulte, secrets will be revealed to you in proper time :D

He who creates owns..

yes i wondered myself about setting up the corporation and getting it registered with the State of Michigan, i need to figure that part out and how all this works for the corporation and trust etc...it seemed weird that one would deal with the State i just want to make sure its right or wrong.

The corporation is the trustee... It is a person, fuck, The PRIVATE Trust has its very own bylaws ( Whatever the FUCK I SAY THEY ARE and ITS PRIVATE) and the corporation is an assest of the trust responsible only to it's shareholders ... guess what... you are the sole shareholder... you create the Trust, your vessel is an instrument that the Trust holds and you get to write the tune...

You the human... utilize your creations at your pleasure....

You created the corporation, you created the trust, you benefit from said entities..

Liening you all caps name as director of that trust... cuts them off at the pass.... It isolates you in Admiralty law..

Trusts were created to obfuscate assets from the crown...

Trust Law is the highest form of law..

Essentially you are duplicating what the gov't did at birth when they created an security agreemnt and gave you the Birth certificate to hold as trustee... Bill of lading= bill of exchange..

By The TRUST liening the name you authorize who can use it... If they want to do business with you it is on your terms... so fuck off CRA, FUCK off RCMP, Fuck Off any unauthorized use... PERIOD.

And you LIVE happily ever after....:-). Only this Is NOT a fairy tale

P.S. I have a digital copy of the aqualiae covenant... with Scott Duncan's permission I will post... as that is not my business

I would like to read the covenant, if Scott Duncan gives his consent.

Rick Carne Public name was created by the state, the state is the grantor of that Name...that name was created for the specific use in commerce...it is commercial by creation...if you claim that name you are surety for it... July 18 at 4:33pm � Like � 6 Scott Duncan Rick Carne... WELCOME

Scott Duncan Seriously people, he just summed it all up.

Add the Scott Duncanism: "It's ALL ACCOUNTING and SURETY", and you can see exactly how it works.

Rick Carne you must create a proxy to operate the corporation to avoid the liabilities associated with the corporation....