The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Jul 16, 2013 12:37 PM

Derek Hill

Want to bring your attention to this little gem which drives even further on surety.

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-i-21/latest/rsc-1985-c-i-21.html

�security� and �sureties�

� caution � ou � cautionnement �

�security� means sufficient security, and �sureties� means sufficient sureties, and when those words are used one person is sufficient therefor, unless otherwise expressly required;

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-c-46/latest/rsc-1985-c-c-46.html

�valuable security�

� valeur � ou � effet appr�ciable �

�valuable security� includes

(a) an order, exchequer acquittance or other security that entitles or evidences the title of any person

(i) to a share or interest in a public stock or fund or in any fund of a body corporate, company or society, or

(ii) to a deposit in a financial institution,

(b) any debenture, deed, bond, bill, note, warrant, order or other security for money or for payment of money,

(c) a document of title to lands or goods wherever situated,

(d) a stamp or writing that secures or evidences title to or an interest in a chattel personal, or that evidences delivery of a chattel personal, and

(e) a release, receipt, discharge or other instrument evidencing payment of money; ===================================================== Can anyone piece these together :)

CanLII - Interpretation Act, RSC 1985, c I-21

canlii.org

�public officer� includes any person in the federal public administration who is authorized by or under an enactment to do or enforce the doing of an act or thing or to exercise a power, or on whom a duty is imposed by or under an enactment;

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Pete Daoust

I LOVE this new word I have found not too long ago :D

Discharge: To liberate or free; to terminate or extinguish. A discharge is the act or instrument by which a contract or agreement is ended. A mortgage is discharged if it has been carried out to the full extent originally contemplated or terminated prior to total execution.

Discharge also means to release, as from legal confinement in prison or the military service, or from some legal obligation such as jury duty, or the payment of debts by a person who is bankrupt. The document that indicates that an individual has been legally released from the military service is called a discharge.

The performance of a duty discharges it. An attorney may speak of discharging a legal obligation.

Carl Dunne

They sure as fuck don't want you knowing about surety i asked the dude in the shop where i buy my law books to search the system for books on the subject last week to which he told me there was one book coming up that was being published this week with a nice 500 euro tag on it. A solicitard will write it off on their taxes so i can only assume it's to stop the common man reading it.

Gail Marie

Carl Dunne I got a book from here on contracting for $3.49 and $7.99 for shipping...it may be worth looking there for a reasonably priced book...I'm just not sure if they ship worldwide, but I would assume they do https://www.abebooks.com/

Carl Dunne

Thanks Gail Blackman I have a good few books on contracts etc here to get through at the moment i was just amazed that the book on surety in particular was so over-priced. The rest are all fairly reasonable and all are tailored for Irish law :)

Derek Moran

(a) the right of the individual to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property...

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/sc-1960-c-44/latest/sc-1960-c-44.html

Life, liberty and security of person

7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person...

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/page-15.html

Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

Article 9

1. Everyone has the right to liberty and security of person.

http://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/ccpr.aspx

Article 9

The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to social security, including social insurance.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CESCR.aspx

..did i miss any?

p.s.

NONE OF THIS IS HIDDEN! ;)

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

SURETY is a SECURITY within the definitions of law dictionaries. A SECURITY then is a CLAIM really, of some kind or other. If I make a deposit in my NAME, I CLAIM that deposit. If I create a BILL to you with my NAME on it, this is a CLAIM for payment. Hence, if I create a CLAIM, I am SURETY upon this until I can pin it on YOU.

Derek Moran

"I REQUIRE proof, as to if i am the SURETY in this matter.....are you claiming that I CREATED the Birth Certificate...is MY SIGNATURE on it?.....and who is in possession of the VALUABLE SECURITY for the person i have?"

Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Is a SECURITY not a secured interest in something, or a creation of an interest in something would be attempt to secure it? In which some ONE with VALUE need to be attached? Fictions are not valuable in themselves, ie: could just as well be rocks or paper, or even just a thought.

Pete Daoust

I KNEW from the start it was SURETY that matters, I knew it, you guys remember the Pierre write a check to Scott Thread ?

I fucking knew it....that was the FIRST question I've sent to the government....back in December...

After SEVERAL emails sent to these lying sack of shit, the ONLY answer I received from them was:

WE CAN NOT GIVE LEGAL ADVICES

I fucking knew it.... :D

Pete Daoust

I've called them in December and asked: Hey, can you explaine to me what is the SURETY of the person ?

You should see the answer I've got....UNBELIEVABLE :D

I will do it again, with my knew toy (recording application on my cell) and I will ask them in FRENGLISH, will send it to Scott so he can post it here....fuck off :D

Pete Daoust

Good Morning Mr. Flaherty

I am in a process of educating myself on WHO I am, I�ve been studying the subject for almost 2 years now, and INVESTED 2 to 3 hours a day, and I take it VERY seriously, after being literally attacked by Revenu Quebec Agency, I�ve made that decision that I will know EVERYTHING I need to know about ME, I mean EVERYTHING.

And, according to my studies, YOU have the position of M.P. Minister of Finance in Canada to serve ME, and other people in Canada.

If ever I�m wrong, just let me know and I will never contact you again.

So I have one and only one question for you.

According to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms article 7.

7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

So MY QUESTION TO YOU IS: What is the Security of the Person ?

Thanks in advance for your answer, I do recognize and fully accept your OATH of office.

Pierre Daoust ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

Derek Hill

heres something you SHOULD consider.

now that we gotten the part where you are PRESUMNED to be SURETY.

When you rebut it by notice of mistake you cannot be SURETY any longer.

Now if the opposing party has a lawyer...that lawyer is about to be slammed. Why? Because they are na OFFICER OF THE COURT. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER BUT TO TAKE SURETY.

Howard Posehn

I've heard before that the crown always has a chequebook with them for when they get, "Stuck with the Bill." What I've just read here would seem to defend this position. I can not remember if Scott verified this chequebook recollection in my head here or not, but I do remember reading it not to long ago, somewhere. Thanks for this, Derek Hill.

Robert Cormier

(d) a stamp or writing that secures or evidences title to or an interest in a chattel personal, ... I remember when we were kids, someone might make a claim to ownership of something, and someone would chime in "I don't see your name on it". Back in the day, I also remember that after someones death, families would sometime race to write their name on furniture. Often, the writing of names on furniture would take place as the aging person would gift a possession prior to their death (to be claimed after he/she died), and instruct the person to write their name on the gifted/inheritable item. This brings me to my question: If I write my name on someones possession and they don't erase it and, or, make a claim against me for vandalism, does the writing of my name on a thing secure it? Does my written name on it evidence my title and interest in that personal chattel?

Derek Moran

Remember when Scott did that article Beverly, where he surgically broke down the definition of "every one" "person" "owner" in the Criminal Code? I think it would be AWESOME if he could do the same thing with "securities" "sureties".....i wonder if he's done having sex yet- flash him over the internet maybe, Beverly? ;)

Neil Rowe

THAT Counter Petitioner can make no payment on any obligation or debt pursuant to the terms of the same said settlement contract until clarification of appropriate tender in payment by the Attorney General and Court is made in amendment to said contract, as herewith requested. 3. THAT No state may make any thing but gold or silver coin tender in payment of debts (Article 1 sec 10, US Constitution), yet no payment in gold or silver may be demanded in payment of any debt or obligation ( HJR 192). Legalese and Legalism (witchcraft and black magic to the natural law as practiced) have long since come to abrogate and contradict the Law of the land, resulting in a Conflict of Law, in Diversity Jurisdiction. 4. THAT neither paper currency nor deposits have value as commodities, as deposits are merely book entries, and it is still a felony to tender any substitute for lawful money in many States. 5. THAT when pressured to identify the form of money to be used to settle a judgment, the 52nd 3rd Judicial District Court of Michigan, Honorable Justice James P. Sheehy presiding, Ruled that "coffee beans" was money, storming out of the court room shouting : "I don�t care if you pay it in coffee beans just so long as you pay it!" (Montgomery Wards v Eugene Glasure case #82-002087 (1982). The judge, as in many unpublished cases, could not bring himself to violate the law in open court on record and declare Federal Reserve Notes to be lawful tender in payment of debts, so Glasure, a Michigan Native, member of the Michigan Militia and personal friend of this Writer, payed the settlement, court costs, and a few of his other debts, in "Coffee Beans," and still carries a large sack of them around with him at all times down to this very day. 6. THAT It was certainly not within the enumerated powers of Congressional authority to transfer the issuing of gold and silver certificates, and ultimately federal reserve notes, to the private Federal Reserve being a foreign power with respect to lawful government, as �Congress may not abdicate [�to give up.. renounce or relinquish�authorities, duties�powers, or responsibility] to transfer to others its legitimate [delegated] functions� Schechter Poultry v. U.S., 29 U.S., 495 U.S. 837, 842 (1935) 7. THAT Federal Reserve Notes may very well be �legal tender� for the United States Territorial federal zone(s) under the Exclusive Legislative jurisdiction of the United States not under Constitutional protection and restrictions; However, both the Constitution and the Law of the Land lead only to one inescapable conclusion : that Federal Reserve Notes certainly are NOT Constitutional tender or lawful money for the Citizens of the 50 sovereign states in these united states of America, in fact, not fiction, outside corporate jurisdiction of law were dead ghosts and fictional persons dwell in commerce, that now and here corrupt and poison the lawful operation of all local governments and courts.

Neil Rowe

yes. Something happened to me yesterday. Several demons came through my office while I was studying. The temperature droped and all. I physically shaken for hours. But god was with me. Public governments have privatised, to treat private persons as public. Its all a bait and switch

Neil Rowe

I will file my certification to practice, nearly calling the judge a pedophile molesting the rights of gods children, and then cross the bar and bow srcastically, YOUR EMMINANCE! YOUR EXCELENCY! I am Here to fuck an attorney general like a little coward bitch, and you will let me, for fear that i will fuck you!

Derek Moran

Derek Moran "...unless otherwise expressly required;"

..i think this means you are presumed to be the SURETY until say, ohh, you send in a NOTICE OF MISTAKE

Sincerely, "SURETY NOT ACCEPTED, I DO NOT CONSENT AND I DO NOT ATTORN"