Yes as Scott Duncan always says. UNDERSTAND the WORDS that is used in that NOTICE OF MISTAKE.
Scott designed that to be generic because he knew that not everyone would be able to design their own notice so therefor he gave a dumbed down version for people to begin their quest....well thats my assumption.
I used it and fully understood it, and it worked overwhelmingly. Same with the help that he gave with VOIDing. Scott is most certainly one of the no bullshitters out in the cyber world.
UNDERSTAND the terms he used, when you feel you got the picture you can use it for your own purposes. You WILL BE TESTED!!!
Kevin Flanagan
Is it ok to share this doc outside tfl?
Derek Hill
This document can already be found in public. Scott said because of that he isnt giving legal advice.
So i doubt Scott Duncan will care.
Kevin Flanagan
thanks Derek. It's my first time seeing that doc i'm very impressed.
Derek Hill
again UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.
look up EVERY WORD!!!!!
If you fuck it up, it will be that much harder to recover next time you use that. It is best to nail it the first time.
Kevin Flanagan
For this bit: "As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464], WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I, as a MAN who is not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE [PPSACA13078], have any SURETY in this matter?"
Does it mean that a copy of the BC has been put in the court file? And the last line, would this mean that one shouldn't be receiving benefits or is it rather saying, the flesh and blood, as opposed to the NAME, is not entitled?
Derek Hill
CLEARLY this is Scott Duncan, personal copy as his PPSA filing number is on there.
Mo Chara Do Chara
i think your right kevin
Kevin Flanagan
Yeh I thought as much it has his name on it too lol. And which bit did you mean mo chara? that it differentiates between the flesh and the name (I phrased the question badly :P)
Mo Chara Do Chara
i think you have to put the bc with it and not to be claiming benifits?
Corby Weaver
I need to make a "Notice of error and notice of amendement of terms. I signed an illegal contract which took away my rights and was designed to to deceive me.
Corby Weaver
inbox me
Derek Hill
you will have to be more specific then that
David Johansen
you 'tender for law' beginners have your homework cut out (and presented here) for you. it requires much deprogramming & relearning how to think and apply value.
Eamonn O Brien
Kevin in the notice Scott is referring to a copy of the BC he gave to the court for dispositioning (transferring of property). Once you give the BC to the court it is then in the custody of the court and they now possess it. They can then do what they want with the person. If you don't possess something you don't control it.
With regards to benefits that's a tricky one. The maxim, "He who receives the benefit must accept the burden" always stands.
However, Scott has shown us that whenever new charges are filed a brand new person is created. The prosecuting party then attempt to attach surety to you for the new charges and person. So I'm not sure what bearing receiving benefits would have on any new claims filed...
The Kevin Flanagan on your driving license isn't the Kevin Flanagan on the passport. The Kevin Flanagan on your social services card isn't the Kevin Flanagan on the Garda charge sheet... ;)
Kevin Flanagan
Thanks a lot for that thoughtful reply, it helped ;)
Eamonn O Brien
They not teach ya this in college? :p
Scott Duncan
Yes, right after they taught MONETARY THEORY. :D
Derek Hill
so scott, did you have to depose the BC into court?
Scott Duncan
EVERY TIME I file an affidavit, they get one.
Eamonn O Brien
Is depose the correct word? Am I right in saying dispositioning?
Scott Duncan
That JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN guy... He's like Agent Smith . :D Copies of him are ALL OVER the matrix :D
Derek Hill
thanks for the clarification
Derek Hill
fucking guy needs to be eradicated :)
Scott Duncan
He dresses nicely, has an excellent vocabulary, and wears shades. I think he's just fine.
Beverly Berta Braakschmack
Is this where "Can't get blood from a stone." came from? :D
Eamonn O Brien
I remember when we first touched on this topic I asked if the court has custody of the person then is it not possible to apply for any state benefits until you get it back.
It was only at a later date that we learned a new person is created every time...
And a few more dots get connected... :D
Carl Dunne
It was an obvious oversight when you consider the accounting side of things :P
Stuart Stone
I'm not sure what your point is Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, I donate blood regularly & it's not difficult at all :P
Scott Duncan
Blood from a STONE... not stoner.
David Johansen
when you say 'copies', are those your copies [notarized?] of the copy you acquired from the department of records, or do you keep requesting more (at a cost) from the dept.?
Sirwade Firsbey
let's see how you run this big company notarized copies of legal documents and wait a minute I've got Jeff working for me and he's a notary public so hey Jeff makes a notarized copies of that copy that I have multiple copies of the notarized copy
Jeff Roggers
hey I'm just a fucking notary what do I know
Sirwade Firsbey
all you need to know is I need copies of that document made
David Johansen
a notary notarizes a signature, not just a copy of a document, that would simply be just a photocopy. that's why i asked SCOTT! (for clarification) so i can duplicate that action.
Corby Weaver
they guarantee that YOU are the legal entity that you saidf you are via STATE ID and such normally
Corby Weaver
duly noted
David Johansen
ok corby, i get that, atleast what you said makes sense, but the whole point is not declaring YOU (by an ID) are that legal person, the NoM document is to keep those sepperate aswell as the asking questions part. prevent joinder from occuring and surety by making them explain 'the nature and cause' which they cant... um Mr David were trying to decieve you, are you willing to go along with our little sherade...?
Corby Weaver
Well hell you can say any thing you want!
Corby Weaver
Its all good
Corby Weaver
tell them to fff off too
Corby Weaver
on their own system
Corby Weaver
I am not SURE I understand them
Corby Weaver
nonsurety
Corby Weaver
Once you take over they scramble. Their tiny heads explode
Corby Weaver
HJR 192 gave your parents the NUMBER to feed you and then you wanted a SSN so you could "get a job".
Corby Weaver
at age 18 you are PRE sumed to KNOW the laws
Sirwade Firsbey
that's why they try to hold us accountable for our actions
Stuart Stone
ahem...*alleged stoner Scott Duncan :P
Scott Duncan
Coward! :P
Scott Duncan
Fucking OWN IT!
Stuart Stone
I don't smoke...but I love cookies...not sure if that qualifies :P
David Johansen
i pick them good don't i. coby was one of my suggested invites to the group. still waiting on Tim�thy C?mmins to make an appearance.
David Johansen
you know, they didnt tell me i didnt need that blasted # because IF I HAD... but ofcourse today it puts a roof over my head... cant help to justify the feeling that i would still have been much better off...
Robert Cormier
"As I have no knowledge of who �You� and or �DEAN CLIFFORD� and/or SUCH
OTHER IDENTIFICATION THIS COURT HAS ADDRESSED ME AS,..." How can we claim, without committing FRAUD, that we have NO KNOWLEDGE of such identification, when we use it, put it in court files, send copies of it, address it in our correspondence, speak about it etc?
Robert Cormier
"As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE..." We know it is a bond because I recall Scott mentioning that a BOND has TWO SIGNATURES. Question: How do we know it is a SURETY BOND? What are the identifiers that indicate that that it is not merely just a bond? What PROOF is there that the BC is a surety bond?
Robert Cormier
If I missed a thread that has my answer, please forgive me. Still catching up.
Pete Daoust
You have the right to THE surety of the PERSON......it is writen everywere....
Sirwade Firsbey
because Scott Duncan said so
David Johansen
@pete, i ought to print that and pout it on a stick out in the front yard. then it will be here too, as a public notice.
David Johansen
it go nice with the no dog pooping sign!
Pete Daoust
Or just stamp it in red on your forehead :-D
Sirwade Firsbey
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_copy
Lei Gh
What certifies a primary document to be genuine?
Derek Hill
easy, certified true copy and write new original, if its a true copy whos going to rebut?
Lei Gh
So, if I tore the original, the tear is the significant factor that proves it the genuine primary document? There is nothing to copy but a torn document, which still may have legal standing?
Lei Gh
except i have the last original copy, not certified.
Corby Weaver
BC is simply pur" evidence" and NEVER PROOF!!
Corby Weaver
its all a charade
Lei Gh
My BC proves that the government of Newfoundland and Labrador holds the legal title(property) in the legal( registered) name and all property, debts, liabilities, obligations, and undertakings registered in that name. It is a security that provides evidence that the human being, ME, in possession of the BC holds the equitable interest in the legal name. And, if there are any debts , liabilities , obligations, or undertakings registered in the legal name, then you are to contact the holder of the legal title in that name, which, I understand, is the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Phillip Prater
Leigh OftheHouseof Collins, It would seem that if they can just reprint those pages, and you have a new copy without the judges signature, write "new original" on it void it and/or rip it in half and photocopy it and YOU certify it. Send it back certified to be entered into the court file with your buck o' five for insurance. if this is wrong forgive me.
Lei Gh
The justice's signature is not on it. Just the court officer's stamp.
Lei Gh
I can put it in an affidavit that I destroyed it but I am not sure that is to my benefit.
Derek Moran
NOTICE OF MISTAKE - GET THESE TO ME IF I'M ARRESTED
March 22, 2013 at 12:29am
NOTICE OF MISTAKE
TAKE NOTICE THAT: In the matter of SURETY for the LEGAL NAME, I believe that there has been a MISTAKE, as the SOLE BENEFICIARY OF A PUBLIC DOCUMENT has been INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED as an "accused" and/or a "suspect".
FORGIVE ME: If I, AND/OR PERSONS AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE COURT AND/OR SUCH OTHER PARTIES ACTING IN MY INTERESTS, have led A COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or A GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies, to believe, by responding to �You�, and/or �JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN�, and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION, such bodies HAVE ADDRESSED ME AS, that I am the PARTY WITH SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE, and please forgive me.
If I, AND/OR PERSONS AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE COURT AND/OR SUCH OTHER PARTIES ACTING IN MY INTERESTS, have led A COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or A GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies, to believe, by responding to �You�, and/or �JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN�, and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION, such bodies HAVE ADDRESSED ME AS, that I am, in ANY CAPACITY, a Pro Se litigant and/or a LEGAL PERSON in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE, as I DO NOT CONSENT and WAIVE THE BENEFIT to such titles (Waiver of the CHANGE OF NAMES ACT OF ONTARIO). Please forgive me.
THEREFORE: As I have no knowledge of who �You� and or �JOHN SCOTT DUNCAN� and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION ANY COURT and/or STATUTORY BODY and/or GOVERNMENT SERVICE and/or AGENTS and/or OFFICERS of such bodies [HEREAFTER "YOU"], HAS ADDRESSED ME AS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK; by WHAT AUTHORITY ARE "YOU" ADDRESSING me as such?
As the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE) has been deposited into the COURT [In the custody of Justice Wailan Low, ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE: Court File Number CV-11-430464], WHAT EVIDENCE does the COURT have that I, as a MAN who is not lawfully entitled to the BENEFITS of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE [PPSACA13078], have any SURETY in this matter?
As GOVERNMENT is the SOLE SIGNATORY PARTY on the SURETY BOND (BIRTH CERTIFICATE), with SOLE AND FULL SURETY as TRUSTEE for the LEGAL NAME, WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have that I am a TRUSTEE for the LEGAL NAME. WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have that I am a TRUSTEE and have ANY SURETY with respect to ANY NAME?
WHAT EVIDENCE do YOU have, that I am an OFFICER, an AGENT, a TRUSTEE and/or an EMPLOYEE of the CROWN? WHAT EVIDENCE do "YOU" have of any WARRANT OF AGENCY for the principal?
WHAT EVIDENCE do "YOU" have that there has been any meeting of the minds, any PROPER NOTICE given, any considerable CONSIDERATION offered, or that I have ANY INTENT to CONTRACT in this matter?
As such, I am returning your OFFER, DECLINED, for immediate DISCHARGE and CLOSURE.
[ AUTHORISED BY: ] [ AQUILAE Trust Seal]
Derek Moran
Derek Moran ..what jurisdiction exactly did you claim in the ONTARIO SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE for yourself, btw?
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