Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 3:59 PM
Thanks Scott! :D


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:00 PM
LOL... I would call a tow truck, and make this piece of crap delivered to him, and write a nice FUCK OFF in the windshield with tremclad rust proof metal paint HAHAHAHA!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:01 PM
But that's me, I don't say it's the right way to deal this.. :/


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:16 PM
ChiefRock gave me an interesting document to post in my car window. It's a notice with a fee schedule for attaching any kind of financial instrument to my vehicle. It also has a fee schedule for towing it, charging me, or, hauling me off to jail. ChiefRock Sino General ROCKS!


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:16 PM
I'll ask him for permission to scan and post it here.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:18 PM
Oh yes he does, I saw him on youtube rocking :D


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:19 PM
He's a gentle rocking giant of a man. :)


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:21 PM
But seriously Robert, why don't you use the tow-truck-paint method ?


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:24 PM
I seriously like the car. It's a restored 1987 Mercedes Benz 300E. Plus, it's my car! And fuck them, that's why! :P


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:28 PM
:D


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:28 PM
It's YOUR car ?....are you sure :D


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Phillip Prater

Jul 13, 2013 4:29 PM
I think i would use the part it out method. Follow up with the scrap collector or give them back the shell. If the title is dated, you then wait til they benefit from it and present the title to the police as missing. Another option is, sell it back to them.


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:30 PM
I did one better though Pete Daoust. I put a $152, 000.00 lien on his house for service rendered over the last year of my mom's life when I tended to them both. How do you like me now dip-shits? :D


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:31 PM
It belongs to Robert Cormier, not, ROBERT CORMIER.


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Phillip Prater

Jul 13, 2013 4:31 PM
If they are in charge of his estate.... Definitely the missing. They have access to the benefit.


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:33 PM
The evil step brother and step sister are in charge of his Estate. I am in charge of my late mother's. But that's a whole other post or three.


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:35 PM
Scott Duncan: Do I write the Attorney General for a remedy to my predicament? Surely he will not advocate fraud. What do you propose? Hints? Suggestions?


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:38 PM
Are you sure it's not YOU that you should call EVIL :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 4:41 PM
Nothing. It's ALL fraud. The "Attorney General" is just some schmuck who was popular in his district. He could be gone in the next cabinet shake-up, or he could lose an election in his riding. The Attorney General IS CLUELESS! The rest are in on the scam. Stop trying to appeal to your rapist.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:44 PM
tow-truck-paint method :D


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:46 PM
Stop trying to appeal to your rapist: I think about this at least 3 to 4 times a day.....this is a KEY phrase.... :)


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Robert Cormier

Jul 13, 2013 4:49 PM
Scott Duncan: What do you suggest (or hint at) as a remedy for my particular situation? As much as i admire Dean Clifford, I am not ready to go down Dean Clifford's path just yet. What option would you suggest (or hint at) to best shield me from harassment at the side of the road by people with guns?


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 4:50 PM
LOL.. :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 4:51 PM
Don't drive. Hire people to drive you. That's what I've always done. I haven't driven since 1989.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:01 PM
Scott Duncan KEY proverb :D Stop trying to appeal to your rapist If it�s difficult, you are doing it wrong I�m in for the tail Stop using their Clubhouse Rules FUCK OFF We are just a semi-evolved chimp that made it this far SHUT UP YOU are NOT a PERSON VOID IT WITH A RED INK STAMP Tingling�.. BANNED ! Are YOU addressing ME ? Fucks the Puppy


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:02 PM
oh, I forgot... I HATE YOU ALL


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:02 PM
and the thing about Natural selection...


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 5:04 PM
...and I DO hate you all. I really, really do. ...and Jews too. Fuck Jews.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:04 PM
Must be fucking painful :(


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 5:05 PM
Not really. There was this little jewish chick I bent over the...OK, nevermind.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:06 PM
hate [heyt] Show IPA verb, hat�ed, hat�ing, noun verb (used with object) 1. to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. 2. to be unwilling; dislike: I hate to do it. verb (used without object) 3. to feel intense dislike, or extreme aversion or hostility. noun 4. intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility. 5. the object of extreme aversion or hostility. Origin: before 900; Middle English hat ( i ) en, Old English hatian (v.); cognate with Dutch haten, Old Norse hata, Gothic hatan, German hassen


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 5:07 PM
Shit that is bad bad bad... :(


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David Johansen

Jul 13, 2013 5:51 PM
so, you inturn gift it to another. a valid bill of sale between parties does not have to be notarized, an autographed title is like an endorsed check.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jul 15, 2013 5:54 AM
Um David, wouldn't that be like theft? To sell a car that isn't yours?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jul 15, 2013 5:59 AM
Robert... my opinion... give them the fuckin car back. There's eleventy-billion cars out there! Unless my father and I spent many a happy weekend building it from scratch together, I wouldn't even want it. It is this kind of greed and infantile thinking that creates all the problems we are seeking remedy for today.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jul 15, 2013 6:07 AM
When my Opa was dying my father told him his kids were gonna fight over his shit. He didn't believe my dad. The man only had a car, leather sofa and some dough in an account ($30G). And sure enough they DID!. My parents took care of him for the last years of his life and when he moved in with them he brought a little chandelier which my mom hung in some room. The family wanted EVERYTHING to go to auction INCLUDING that fucking chandelier and my mom refused to take it down. How stupid. Opa was in the Army and they EVEN AUCTIONED HIS UNIFORMS �OMFG! I told my dad to make sure to buy those back and give them to my cousin who was named after Opa. They auctioned all his black and white personal photographs... everything...


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Lei Gh

Jul 15, 2013 10:09 AM
Anything for a buck...sad. :(


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David Johansen

Jul 15, 2013 12:56 PM
technical aspects of legal tender aside, beverly, the ink was dry, the automobile was gifted, there are no take backsies...


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David Johansen

Jul 15, 2013 12:56 PM
the only way to cancel a contract is with an overruling/superceding contract.


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Mick Parker

Jul 15, 2013 4:13 PM
i'm with Girl-Brain, we value the wrong things, they distract us, let it go, buy a POS & restore with your own son


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Kelleran Holman

Jul 21, 2013 1:33 PM
if the man signed off the "ownership" then his interest in it is done. Robert has the car, and the title signed by his "dad"...it is his car now, if he feels he must "register" it and "dad" won't witness the affidavit, then he will have to pay taxes on the value...get the car appraised...go pay the tax, done.


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Derek Moran

Jan 18, 2014 8:01 PM
Lana, you might wanna try getting in contact with this guy...he seems to have the same/similar story as you


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 18, 2014 10:43 PM
Thank's Derek for the suggestion. :) I'm confused how he might help though? I mean, everyone was suggesting liening through a notice procedure. And even though cars are involved I'm dealing with a house and a property in the states and cars and bank accounts which have disappeared and have been sold. Am I missing something?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 18, 2014 10:47 PM
Since this happened though I have met quite a few people with very similar stories to me. It's been surprising. I'm learning its not uncommon for families to do whacky things when someone dies and money is involved. I thought it was more rare. :(


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 18, 2014 11:00 PM
There is not much you can do Lana, as you allowed them to sell all the assets without putting a lien on them.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 18, 2014 11:10 PM
Its true that I didn't lien anybody or the house etc. But I never allowed/gave permission to sell our inheritance. People were saying I should still lien my step mom and charge fees. Do you think it's too late for that Beverly? Now I'm more confused. I don't know who is right. You say its too late and they say its not. :(


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 18, 2014 11:16 PM
I don't know how to do a lien. I am studying though. But its confusing to. I mean, how do you lien a grandfather clock that was passed down for generations. I don't know the make or serial number. Same with the cars. I don't know my step mothers SIN number. I used to know her middle name. I mean I heard it years ago but I've forgotten it.


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Steve Lemieux

Jan 18, 2014 11:57 PM
Lana, I would advise to consider letting this go. Learn from it and move on. Achieving remedy at this point is territory for someone who is VERY schooled in administrative processes AND being able to STAND on those processes when CHALLENGED. If you decide to start down this path, be prepared for many sleepless nights and much pain and frustration.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:10 AM
Lana Dukakis, one very simple question, and come back with a one very simple answer... :) How many hours have you spent, trying to EXECUTE that will ?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:15 AM
I wish I could let it go Steve. I haven't slept well since. Really! I feel so violated and angry and hurt. If I could get what I should have coming to me it would completely change my life. I work part time for a little more than minimum wage and can barley pay my rent or eat. My shit car has broken down and I can't afford to fix it. Soon any value it may have will be gone because a mechanic told me that if I don't get it running in the next few months or sooner the motor could seize, then I'll get $40.00 for the scrap metal. My Dad worked very hard all his life to pass something on to my sister and I. It's like she wiped out the core of his intentions to work hard. It's like she wants to pretend that none of his work was done for me and my sister. It's just so wrong!!!! I am sooo steaming MAD it's making me crazy. To turn my back on it would be to turn my back on what my father stood and lived for.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:17 AM
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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:20 AM
Exactly I'm not sure Pete Daoust without taking a few hours to give you the most accurate answer I can. I'm guessing about at least 8 or 9 hundred hours including research, note making for my lawyer, phone calls etc.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:21 AM
WOW !!!! :-o And what does an HOUR is worth to you, in CAD $ ?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 12:21 AM
Who was the executor of the estate? Weren't they supposed to handle this issue? Did this go to court? And what were you doing during all of this?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:23 AM
At least 3 or 4 hours a day for 11 months or so. I think my time is worth at least $25.00 an hour, but I am starting to learn here that my time is worth a whole lot more.


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 12:23 AM
Lana Dukakis, writing is substance over form. you dont need to know exact specifics like a persons soc.sec. # simply a name and an address, and as far as somthing like a grandfather clock, unless it was at a clock shop with a hundred others, simply a brief description of the item in question suffices. as far as a lein, you can only file a lien against somthing that has a title which could be transferred between parties while the actual item itself could be held under bailment.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 12:25 AM
An Executor's job in regards to a Will, is to LIQUIDATE and/or DISTRIBUTE the assets, to the BENEFICIARIES, as were the WISHES, of the GRANTOR, in their WILL, because it was their INTENT.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 12:26 AM
Whom was that guy then?


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:31 AM
$25.00 per hour ????? :-o Fuck, that is cheap :( Think about it a few other minutes Lana Dukakis......PLEASE


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:31 AM
I am the executor of the Estate. I had just over $4,000 in my savings account. All that went to my lawyer within about two weeks. I still owe my lawyer over two thousand. My lawyer wrote a few letters, made a few phone calls and informed me the money was gone and that I owed her even more. When I told my lawyer I couldn't pay anymore immediately, their office sent me a bill and wished me luck. I tried to take care of it on my own. I found Robert Menard on youtube and follwed him for a while. Those were long nights trying to learn what I could. That lead me to Dean Clifford stuff on youtube. Anyways, I did my best to administrarte this on my own and wrote a bunch more letters. Then I heard about charging for my time from Dean. I called her lawyers office to say I was going to charge $500 per hour for my time. Since then, they have never responded back to my letters. I guess that means they don't want to contract with me.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:34 AM
I would start by sending an invoice to the stepmother. 800 hours at $50.00 per hour. (That is the minimum, really the minimum, forget about this $25.00 per hour)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:36 AM
Haven't gone to court because I don't think I know enough about their cluhouse rules to win. That's why I was thinking of going to a JP and laying a criminal complaint. My thinking is that I will lay a charge first for stealing my property. If her lawyer was to mention that there are other matters involved, I would say yes and that I am going to be laying several more criminal charges and that those charges will be filed soon as well. My thinking is/was that once my step mom realized she may face jail time, she would likely change her tune.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 12:38 AM
Its kinda like when Scott said its up to Dean Kory to ATTORN himself- its not for the CROWN's to accept/take, its Dean's to give/turn-over It was not up to the Beneficiaries for them to arbitrarily TAKE the assets for themselves...it was on you as the Executor to hand-out/DISTRIBUTE the assets


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:39 AM
Also, if I lay criminal charges than it's my step mom against the crown and we know who usually wins in that scenario.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 12:41 AM
So what would Dean Clifford say about going-to-court?..."Dont go to court, unless you know, that you have already won" > successfully exhaust your Private-Administrative-Remedy first


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:41 AM
I had rented a truck to get my stuff out of the house but the locks were changed. The police said it was a civil matter and that I should hire a lawyer.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:43 AM
Yes Derek, and that is why I am here: to learn.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:52 AM
What do you guys think of my strategy to lay criminal charges. As I understand it if I lose I can still go for a civil/administrative remedy. I'm also thinking that way I don't set myself up for losing by way of estoppel. I mean if i study this for 6 months and then start it up again, they might argue that my silence over the months was an indication of my consent. BTW Thank you all so very much for all your input. <3 <3 You guys have helped me more than you know. More than my family even. In fact, they are thinking I am crazy with all this ""freeman stuff.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 12:53 AM
First Notice > give so many days Second Notice > give so many days Final Notice/Notice of Default > mention- "...your acquiescence is agreement to everything i have claimed..." POST Public Notice on the internet somewhere, and especially in a Legal Notice section of the newspaper for 3 days ..now, you have built a foundation in which to attach all this as exhibits to an Affidavit for if you need to take this to court


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:53 AM
*sigh* :(


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Jan 19, 2014 12:53 AM
JUST SEND AN INVOICE !!!!! :D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:54 AM
I am making my notice now and will post it here soon for tips and suggestions.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:56 AM
I'm confused Pete. Don't I have to send them my rates in writing first by registered POST so they have an opportunity to decide if they want to do business with me at my rates, or? Sorry I'm learning. I appreciate your patience. I really do!!


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 12:58 AM
"...I don't set myself up for losing by way of estoppel..." You're worried that THEY have the power to BAR you from executing your duties as the Executor of your father's estate? :/


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:58 AM
What do I say back if her lawyer says produce the signed contract where my client agreed to those rates


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 12:59 AM
Your situation will reach a very HIGH complicated process, and it's so simple.......everyone I see in these groups are complicating stuff to INSANE ends, for absolutly NOTHING......always the same, folks wants it complicated :D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 12:59 AM
Not so much BAR me, but rather claim I abandoned the administration of it for several months which indicated my acceptance of what happened. As in silence equals consent.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:01 AM
What I am suggesting you, is so freaking simple......it's as easy as making peanut butter toast, but you can't see it... :(


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:01 AM
:D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:01 AM
I like things simple. I'm confused because everyone in here says the best defence we have is: Show me the signed contract where i accepted your terms/rates. Can't her lawyer say the same?


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:02 AM
I dunno, thats a good question...DID you abandon the administration of it for several months?


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:03 AM
If her LAWYER challenge the invoice, you will have the opportunity to make him LIABLE for it......he won't challenge that invoice, NO ONE WILL.... :D


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:04 AM
Oh, and your rate should be around $200 an hour, just saying :P


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:05 AM
I would personally charge $3000.00 an hour, because that invoice will be NEGOCIATED at one point, not CHALLENGED :D


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:05 AM
You never expected that your family would try to DEFRAUD you, let alone, attempt to DEFRAUD the EXECUTOR of your father's estate ffs- so yes, send the INVOICES Pete is talking about for all the bullshit now they are putting you through, and STAPLED to the Notices you send them.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:07 AM
If that stepmother brings a LAWYER into this, this idiot will try to NEGOCIATE with you.......he WON'T CHALLENGE that invoice....... ;)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:08 AM
Administratively, I did as far as they are concerned. I sent several more letters that weren't responded to. Then I stopped sending letters. Then I went to the police. I had a few officers over, on different occassions over the past few months hoping that a new officer would take my side. That never happened. Then I called their Seargents or whatever and asked to get service. That's been an on and off thing as they work weird shifts, are off for days, or on "assignments". Finally I was told by a supervisor cop to lay charges with a JP if I didn't like the way the police were treating this. Anyways it's been months since I wrote to her lawyer as I was thinking of laying charges and have been putting those documents together.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:08 AM
Call-up their lawyer's office playing dumb like you're a potential client, and ask how much he charges...then charge THE SAME THING


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:08 AM
The best thing you could do Lana Dukakis, is STOP thinking with your emotions, and bring this matter to your brain, and see it as a BUSINESS MATTER....


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:10 AM
I did that Derek. That's where I got the $500.00 per hour figure that I told her lawyers secretary I would charge to administrate this from now on. She's using my money to defend herself. Ionic eh?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:11 AM
I will present my first notice here in the next few days Pete. Thanks for keeping me on the ground! :)


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:11 AM
Lets say you send an invoice of 800 hours X $400. That gives $320,000.00 you might ended up with $160,000.00 after everything is finished.... So take the amount you think you deserved, and multiply it by 2 and take that amount and divide it by the amount of hours you've spent on this fuck up :D


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:12 AM
Did you send them LETTERS, or, did you send them NOTICE...? NOTICE = conveying KNOWLEDGE in a FACT-IN-LAW LETTERS = sending them the same as a fucking 'love-letter,' you arent interested in having a "chat" with this lawyer


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:13 AM
Did you read the PROPER NOTICE thread Scott wrote in here?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:17 AM
I'm still not sure about PROPER NOTICE. I did send "letters" with NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST, NOTICE OF HARM AND FINANCIAL INJURY, and so on. Not by registered mail and I don't know if they were properly written to be called a PROPER NOTICE. These were ignored. About 30 letters (including NOTICES) were written and sent. Most weren't responded to and about 90% of the responses never addressed my questions or concerns. Most told me to hire a lawyer as it would be prejudicial to my interests if I didn't.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:19 AM
"Most told me to hire a lawyer as it would be prejudicial to my interests if I didn't." First- you dont think they actually have the authority to TELL you to get a lawyer, do you?


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:19 AM
^^^An invoice will have a very different effect ^^^^ :D


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:21 AM
Hummm.... INVOICE ACCOUNT STATEMENT NOTICE FINAL NOTICE DEFAULT NOTICE LIEN :D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:21 AM
Somehow they illegally obtained a death certificate. The funeral director told me that I was the only one who could give out the death certificate as I am the executor. If asked for a death certificate, the funeral director told me they would refer whoever to me. Anyways, the assets were liquidated upon presentment of a DC which I never gave. I held on to them (didn't give one to my step mom) because I wanted to tally the estate and didn't want her to use it to liquidate the estate. Somehow she got a hold of one.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:22 AM
What they REALLY just said to you with that is: "We want to speak to one of our fellow B.A.R. members so we can work in cahoots taking turns fucking you over once you ATTORN yourself over to your lawyer"


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:25 AM
I have to go. I don't mean to seem rude or ungrateful, it's just that I missed lunch and haven't had dinner lately. I have to make myself something to eat. I'll be back in about 25 minutes or so. :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 1:26 AM
feeling a bit feint. :(


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 1:26 AM
Sounds like you just described to me that your stepmother PERSONATED the Executor of your father's estate- wonderful, she probably is clueless that she has committed FRAUD :D


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 1:26 AM
LOL....don't worry, we know you are not RUDE :D


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Phillip Prater

Jan 19, 2014 1:36 AM
I am with what Pete said. It was his will that put you in charge. charging for executive duties are paid by the estate. It is your duty to act honorable. If they have made off with the stuff BILL them for it. If they dispute what you charged for it then produce it. It is your job as executor to do the accounting of it. "If you can't produce the stuff, it will be accepted that you agree to my price and have committed theft against this estate." signed, honorable when others aren't


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:01 AM
I'm Back. I'm going to copy and paste some things i wrote on Derek's page here. It might be helpful.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:02 AM
Their lawyer's position is that the will (TRUST) isn't worth the paper it's written on as "survivor-ship rights" take precedence. In other words anyone who is married and makes a will has wasted their time and money and are fools because their WILL and WISHES do not matter at all. The trust is worthless/of absolutely no effect, and is superseded by statute law.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:04 AM
Derek Moran Have you looked-up what �rights of survivorship� and "survivor-ship rights" even mean? January 16 at 4:41pm � Like Lana Dukakis Yes I have. It seems to support what their lawyer says. A will (when married) is useless. Married people can't give anything to their children, family, friends etc. It all goes to the survivor. <-- If I understand it correctly.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:07 AM
Yes i have. As an example, i have Aunt/Uncle who had 3 kids. One died at an early age. As i interpreted it, even if the child who passed away is still in their Will, the "Survivorship-Rights/Rights-of-Survivorship" would say, the assets would be DISTRIBUTED between the last 2 remaining kids. Anyone left as Beneficiaries in your dad's Will pass away?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:08 AM
^^ This is their clubhouse rules argument. Married people who are survived by their spouse can't give anything to anyone through a will (other than the surviving spouse) because of RIGHTS OF SURVIVORSHIP. Does anyone know anything about this? Wills are a waste of time and money and aren't worth the paper they are written on. WTF?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:09 AM
Derek Moran No. My sister and I are both alive and well.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:09 AM
How many Beneficiaries EXACTLY did your father mention in his Will?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:10 AM
http://www.gov.on.ca/en/information_bundle/land_registration/content/ONT06_024562.html


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:10 AM
Just my sister and me. That's it.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:12 AM
The lawyers argument is that by way of survivorship - EVERYTHING goes to my step mom regardless of what the will says.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:13 AM
Bank accounts held jointly, investments held jointly etc.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:13 AM
read section 108.2 and see what pops-out at you: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90c43_e.htm#BK147


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:13 AM
Mind you we are in a common law jurisdiction and they are quoting acts and statutes.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:16 AM
Jury trials 108. (1) In an action in the Superior Court of Justice that is not in the Small Claims Court, a party may require that the issues of fact be tried or the damages assessed, or both, by a jury, unless otherwise provided. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.43, s. 108 (1); 1996, c. 25, s. 9 (17). Trials without jury (2) The issues of fact and the assessment of damages in an action shall be tried without a jury in respect of a claim for any of the following kinds of relief: 1. Injunction or mandatory order. 2. Partition or sale of real property. 3. Relief in proceedings referred to in the Schedule to section 21.8. 4. Dissolution of a partnership or taking of partnership or other accounts. 5. Foreclosure or redemption of a mortgage. 6. Sale and distribution of the proceeds of property subject to any lien or charge. 7. Execution of a trust. 8. Rectification, setting aside or cancellation of a deed or other written instrument. 9. Specific performance of a contract. 10. Declaratory relief. 11. Other equitable relief. 12. Relief against a municipality. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.43, s. 108 (2); 1994, c. 12, s. 41; 2006, c. 21, Sched. A, s. 16.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:16 AM
sale of property


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:16 AM
relief


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:16 AM
proceeds


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:17 AM
cancelation of deed or other written instrument


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:17 AM
WOW That's great. Thanks Derek!


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:18 AM
LOL Execution of trust


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:18 AM
It's like this was written to protect me. SMILING!!


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:18 AM
OTHER equitable relief


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:19 AM
Ok. So I do the NOTICES and LIENS then go to a SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:21 AM
I just read the PROPER NOTICE thread by Scott Duncan. A big help!!! I feel some real hope now. :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:23 AM
^^ I'll have to re read it a few times for it to sink in, but seems straight forward enough. I was eating and smiling the whole way through.


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:33 AM
Of course if i were you- i would offer myself up to be 'Boat-Bunny' for a day or two to Scott...he might actually draw up the documents himself, depending on which position you were in at the time


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:45 AM
:( I don't prostitute myself. Never have and never will. I've been desperate before as I am now and have had offers to trade sex for money (something I may want or need), but just not interested. It's not my style. Not judging though. It's just not for me. But I do know people who smoke weed! :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 2:47 AM
^^ Maybe i could hire a hooker for him. Hmmm


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:54 AM
Yes, there's always that...he DOES like WEED ;)


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 2:57 AM
Just spoke to my dad about how he was the Executor for my Aunt/his sisters estate, and how her bank really put him through the ringer answering questions before they'd release any funds ..seems the people at your dad's bank have some questions to answer regarding why they handed over everything to someone who wasnt the Executor, no?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 2:57 AM
Does this step-wretch have a house of her own?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:02 AM
It seems they do have some questions to answer Derek. I don't know if she bought a new house Beverly. I can't get in contact with her. Her lawyer will not give me contact details. He says all correspondence is to go through him because he has power of attorney.


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:02 AM
:-D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:03 AM
^^ She's not in the phone book or listed with bell.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:03 AM
do a land titles search


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Derek Moran

Jan 19, 2014 3:03 AM
..you should give her lawyer a reason to BILL her ALOT of HOURS :D


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:03 AM
Who the fuck cares ?? :-D


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:04 AM
how do you think liars take others' homes away when they lack payment of their mortgage?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:06 AM
Was the house only in your father's name? Or did he add her to the title?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:06 AM
How about the vehicles?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:08 AM
I contacted a bank I know they had accounts together in and provided them the will. They quoted survivorship rights as well. They also sent me a document (regarding just one of their accounts) my dad signed years ago that said in the case opf his death, he left the balance of the account to her. I haven't written them back but I was thinking that the will was the last instruction he gave and would nullify that older agreement as it was his last will/instruction. Any thoughts on this? It was an American currency account if I remember correctly with about $40,000.00. Should I write back and say give me the money, the last will supercedes any previous wishes/instructions?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:10 AM
They are gone. I'm guessing she probably sold one and kept one.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:10 AM
The were joint tenants. They bought it while they were married.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:10 AM
So this is only about an account and a couple of cars?


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:11 AM
Yah... that's different... he can't leave you a property that he and her jointly purchased...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:12 AM
How bout... let this go and don't waste any more time on it... cars depreciate daily and you wasted your money with a liar...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:13 AM
But... if you have the time... you can stay here and keep learning and create VALUE yourself :D


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:14 AM
The will says we get his interest in the house, a property in the states, all accounts, investments, cars, basically anything he had an interest in. Furniture etc. He created a codicil naming specific furniture as well. Furniture that were heirlooms and special pieces he wanted us to get that he brought to the marriage.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:14 AM
Seriously... it would be worth more to you to learn things we are learning here than to chase some old witch...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:15 AM
well, do a land title search on her name (yet she likely moved far away), and if you find something... LIEN THE SHIT OUT OF IT...


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:15 AM
It says we have an interest in everything and that I as the executor have all rights regarding it as if he were still alive. This was in referennce to sale of property, accounts, etc.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jan 19, 2014 3:17 AM
are you in the US or Canada?


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 3:18 AM
sounds like you should be enforcing your rights to somthing in a contract. was the will registered anywhere like with a notary or city/county registrar?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:18 AM
I'm mining Dogecoins. I have almost 6000! It's going up with a bullet. Almost worth $3.00


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:20 AM
Registered with the ONTARIO SUPREME COURT OF JUSTICE. But, if it helps, it also says I may choose to keep it in the private or put it in the public as I see fit.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:21 AM
I am not allowed to charge fees to the estate.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:22 AM
^^ for my role as executor


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 3:27 AM
just execute it. once its complete you settle or collect on the lein. if there is chatel (property) and you have a fear someone who has current control over and possibly could sell it out from under you as executor, then an affadavit to it (wherabouts) and you get the sherriff to go looking for it.


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 3:29 AM
as the executor, you can step down if you cant handle it. but then again i suppose thats why your here looking for help. to quote Admiral Scott "You think wrong and value the wrong things", so you need to identify where work needs to be done and get on it.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:29 AM
To the moon


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:34 AM
David "Just execute it" that's what I am trying to do but nobody is co-operating. I wish it were as easy said than done. :( By affidavit do yopu mean saying I am the executor, I can't locate the estate and ask the Sheriff to find it? I take it that's what you mean.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:35 AM
I don't want to give it to the state to manage. I don't trust the state. I want to administrate it. I like the ideas here and will try the suggestions made here before I consider anything else. Thanks though! :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:36 AM
^^ oops trying to type fast :(


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:39 AM
David Johansen. Could I appoint someone I trust, or do I have to just give up all right concerning it including who the new executor would be?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:41 AM
I am in Canada


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:48 AM
How many Dogecoin you have Lana Dukakis ?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:50 AM
5600 and something in my wallet and about 200 more in my pool that I haven't transferred over yet.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:51 AM
How about you Pete?


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:52 AM
200,000, I am digging at 50,000 a day now.....will upgrade to 200, 000 a day this next monday


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:53 AM
wow oh wow


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:53 AM
so many coins...much profit!


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:54 AM
Do you mind if I ask how much you invested for your computers?


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:56 AM
5k....


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:57 AM
and another 15k on monday?


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 3:57 AM
wow


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Pete Daoust

Jan 19, 2014 3:58 AM
no....5k all together....


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 4:02 AM
as executor, you need to think like the king. you have to take control and tell others what to do., or that they can not do somthing. if they do somthing wrong you send them notice, and then follow through with the list, the order of filing paperwork. once the paperwork is filed properly you can obtain a warrant for the sherrif to take posession of chatel property and you collect it for safe keeping untill such time you can comply with the will you are executor theirof.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:02 AM
And I thought I was rich with my 5800 coins. :( If I had some of my inheritance I'd buy a few super machines as well. BTW A friend saw your setup and said AMD cards would be better as they are better at math - decryption. I don't know myself. But this guy is a super geek. He hacked his school and changed his grades when he was 10 or so. Just sayin. Maybe something to look into before you spend more. :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:04 AM
Thanks David! I'm getting there. As I said I order them to cease and desist and they ignore me. But as Derek pointed out they were letters and not proper notices. I will do everything by registered mail from now on. :)


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:13 AM
BTW Pete. he liked everything else you did, he just said AMD video cards would be better. Hope that helps.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:24 AM
Does the last will and testament supersede any written agreements made earlier? I'm sure it does, but the bank said they could give my stepmother the money in the American account because that's he agreed to years ago and it is binding on them. I'm speaking of the American currency account I mentioned earlier.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:28 AM
Off to bed. Goodnight all. And thanks again for all your help!


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 4:28 AM
if that specific item is not mentioned in the 'last', the earlier has presidence as it was the parties will. if you think that is contrary, you lien it and take that in action to probate for a ruling.


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:32 AM
It's not mentioned specifically. As I said the WILL was somewhat generic. Ex: All my property which I have an interest in...all my assets that I have an interest in, any bank accounts I have an interest in etc. I would assume that all bank accounts refers to ALL BANK ACCOUNTS including that one. ??


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Lana Dukakis

Jan 19, 2014 4:33 AM
All accounts are closed and were emptied long ago. Can I still lien them?


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David Johansen

Jan 19, 2014 9:19 PM
you can not lein somthing that is nolonger in existence.


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Nova Starr Dus

Jan 19, 2014 11:46 PM
Christopher Vernon maybe claim legal man 1st, read above makes sense


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