Stuart Stone

Jul 12, 2013 3:47 PM
Pick your favourite strategy Gail: Isn't it an offer to contract? A BIG 'No contract, opened in error, return to sender' written diagonally across the envelope in RED. Conditional Acceptance, with your terms (eg: $50.00 for every letter opened, $100.00 for each response, $150.00 for any cheques written & $400.00 per hour or part thereof...if I receive any further correspondence, then it is deemed tacit agreement between the parties that they accept the terms) Notice of Mistake...the slam dunk It probably all depends if you want to just make it go away, or for shits & giggles see what response a low key approach gets, then up the ante until you reach your outcome.


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Gail Marie

Jul 12, 2013 3:52 PM
Thanks to you both.....would I write anything on the ticket or just send it to them with one of the above strategies?


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Stuart Stone

Jul 12, 2013 3:56 PM
That's a great question...check with the oracle Scott Duncan if their offer can be stamped 'VOID' and just returned to them


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 4:26 PM
Is not voiding an OFFER to contract a DISTINCT "No Contract" ?


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 4:58 PM
Send it back with NO CONTRACT mentionned on it, in red ink.......and wait :D


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 5:00 PM
I'm ahead of you, I did that, and they've just sent me a BoE and telling me that a PERSON decided to enter a plea for me :D Now, I am asking them, in writing, WHO entered a plea for my PERSON and what is his address and inscription number :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:00 PM
Yes. Stop scheduling for MONEY.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 5:03 PM
And Gail, as you can see, Scott Duncan liked my posts here, and that gives me a tinggling sensation :D, I am the MINORITY for sure, because the MAJORITY don'T SEE THIS TINGGLING THING THE SAME AS i. :d


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:04 PM
So fee schedules are no good then Scott? ?


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:05 PM
I just had cyber sex...my key board on my phone is a fucking mess...lol..lol...lolllllllllLlll


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:05 PM
They are good for rendering the security worthless to them.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:07 PM
If you tear a cheque in half, or you stamp VOID across it, then NOBODY can benefit.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:08 PM
Sorry was that a MISTAKE...lol... ;-D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:09 PM
All ORDERS, ENDORSEMENTS, CHARGES, MOTIONS, FORMS...these are all BILLS OF EXCHANGE that GROW AND GROW as they are PROCESSED. The winner gets to have a credit on an ACCOUNT.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:09 PM
How do they render the security to worthless Scott?


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Derek Hill

Jul 12, 2013 5:10 PM
and if its voided, why would the lawyer be on the hook?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:10 PM
Fee schedules are LEGAL because they DESTROY the SECURITY INSTRUMENT.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:11 PM
Credit on an ACCOUNT?? What about credit OF acvount?? How do they differ ?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:14 PM
they don't


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:14 PM
Any security that has been Voided , destroyed, ripped up just doesn't exist anymore AS A Financial INSTRUMENT. ????


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:15 PM
That is correct.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:16 PM
So how do I get credit on an account then please Scott? ?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:16 PM
YOU DON'T


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:18 PM
Only DISCHARGE? Re Adam Thomas question.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:18 PM
Ok they do then?..


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:19 PM
No chad. Discharge is settlement.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:19 PM
Depends on WHY you are setting fees.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:20 PM
Setting fees to Rape the rapists back


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:21 PM
THAT'S NEVER going to happen. THEY KNOW what money is. YOU don't.


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:22 PM
Fee schedules are LEGAL because they DESTROY the Security instrument .......because unless a fee has BEEN paid then how could the security instrument exist????


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:22 PM
No not fully yet I don't but I AM getting there thanks to you Scott :-D


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:24 PM
Thanks Adam Thomas I realized I had typed to soon from the other thread. I knew it was wrong as I was posting :(


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:24 PM
It's ALL ACCOUNTING AND SURETY!


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:28 PM
Why has the learning/comprehension increased ten-fold in the last 2 weeks? Before it was in idle now it's at least going down the road.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jul 12, 2013 5:30 PM
I would have a Notice of Mistake on hand anyways, notarized... Everyone that I know that has sent back a ticket "no contract" or "void", they just send back a court date... Send the notice with it...


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:30 PM
Scott Duncan, EVERYTIME you say that I want to transpose all this LEGAL stuff (words,definitions yadda yadda, procedures) into a standard double entry set of books.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 5:36 PM
I had not received ANY court date Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma, so now you know someone who didn't :D


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 5:37 PM
Someone will enter a PLEA on Gail Blackman at some point.....Then the fun begin...


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:37 PM
That's actually a VERY effective way to think, Chad.


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:42 PM
Thanks for that Scott Duncan. I have not done it yet because I am not sure of which angle to take. 1) The books of the Land. Or from 2) The books of the Government or 3) The books of Me. I get stumped on that part. I really think it should be The books of the land with the Government and people being the customers.


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Jul 12, 2013 5:43 PM
I think the Government are the customers... The other way around.


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:45 PM
Want to add 4l Or from the TRUST.


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 5:47 PM
Beverly Girl-Brain Braaksma it is tough call. I keep thinking one way then changing it. Just going in circles peeing in the center of the room.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 5:48 PM
I always tell my customers that if they wanna buy, buy, if they don't wanna buy, bye bye...!!!!


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Man O'man Man

Jul 12, 2013 5:51 PM
I admit this is my presumption, but let's say that the vehicle tagged had a sticker on its plate. Will the parking violation remain attached as a matter of record to the licence plate, and when the party attempts to apply for sticker renewal, will the parking violation amount be added to the sticker renewal fee even if one responded with NO CONTRACT, NoM etc?


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:53 PM
Chad, id much prefer the book of ne.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:53 PM
IF that happens, go to court, and elect up to indictment. :D


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:54 PM
Siegs....me...& lights off till morn. Gnight y'all. .


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Adam Thomas

Jul 12, 2013 5:55 PM
Fuckin poms are killing us in the Ashes....


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Man O'man Man

Jul 12, 2013 5:55 PM
where do I go to learn what "elect up to indictment" means?


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 5:56 PM
It won't happen. It will likely go to collections.


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Man O'man Man

Jul 12, 2013 5:57 PM
what are the implications or expected interactions if it goes to collections?


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Man O'man Man

Jul 12, 2013 5:58 PM
in other words, what does one do then? As the violation fee reamins attached to the sticker/plate during the passage of time....and if that renewal comes up....well, it's not gonna happen unless the full amount+ violation fee is settled, no?


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 6:02 PM
I only think of what Scott Duncan SCREAMS ..ALL...the time. (Is the Man trying to tell us something?) He has that phrase permanently copied on the clipboard ready for immediate deployment with a 2lb. trigger pull. So thinking about that the conclusion I came to is that I hear *law, writs, orders, summons yaddayadda* when I should be thinking, Law equates to what in Accounting? Writs equate to what in Accounting and so on. Thought it would be a good idea to start thinking in Accounting terms when I hear Legal words.


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Phillip Prater

Jul 12, 2013 6:03 PM
in an effort to settle this in the private, before court, could you do the free man Menard and send them a letter like the one on page 25 here.. http://thewaterengine.com/law/Letters_to_Authorities.pdf and change the questions to suit your situation? As questions negate understanding and also shows an attempt to take care of this honorably? Please let me have no tingling sensation.


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Phillip Prater

Jul 12, 2013 6:04 PM
if using a freetard method is wrong, forgive me.


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Pete Daoust

Jul 12, 2013 6:05 PM
How can freetard could be right ? :/ ... freetard = being retard for free ? :D


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 12, 2013 6:18 PM
Robert Menard taught me to OPEN my eyes and realize that we do not live in the world we think we live in. Right OR wrong I am grateful to him for that.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 6:23 PM
Everything Robert Menard says about the law is true. He lies through omission... because he likes Money of exchange.


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Gail Marie

Jul 12, 2013 7:22 PM
This is fabulous...thank you all!


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Mika Rasila

Jul 12, 2013 8:06 PM
I refuse for cause unless they can clarify the conditions they are offering , I also tell them that since they epect me to work for this I charge them 50 bucks an hour for my time in processing . So " refused for cause and clariication " across the face and on the back I bill them for time .


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Mika Rasila

Jul 12, 2013 8:08 PM
I also like to put a little red star at the top right hand corner just to make them wonder :)


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 8:08 PM
The RIGHT ANSWER is the RIGHT ANSWER. It doesn't matter WHO says it. :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 12, 2013 11:14 PM
Bonus points for the "Red Star (tm)" Uber hysterical! :D


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:00 AM
Fuck...bonus time already..? Red Star...hmmm....that sounds RACIST...... :-)"


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:00 AM
Are you picking on us Jew Kunts again Scott ??.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:01 AM
Red Kneck.....K....


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:03 AM
Ch� Geuvera. ..Red Star mofo....


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 1:29 AM
I don't get the red star thing :(


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:43 AM
Is the Red CZstAR.a lil spolier for us jew kunts being kunts ??


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Chad Brodgesell

Jul 13, 2013 1:43 AM
Pete Daoust, the red star is a brain fuck for them as they all stand around the water cooler trying to figure out what it means, which is nothing , to them, just us.


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 1:44 AM
Red Lighting us jew/jesuit kunts....


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 1:45 AM
Ha, that's why I could not get it :D Thanks Chad Brodgesell


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 8:30 AM
Troll...troll...lol...lol...lolllllll....uber piss funny :-D


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Maximilian Poe

Jul 13, 2013 1:15 PM
Instead of the redstar I was thinking of sending in a Polaroid shot of a Kraft Caramel


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Pete Daoust

Jul 13, 2013 1:17 PM
funny, that star thing gave me a few ideas :D


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 1:20 PM
I haven't seen a troll this good since National Geographic's Evolution Issue.


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Tara Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 1:55 PM
You're forgetting the Preening North American Cam Slut. *sheesh*


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:26 PM
Huh...Tara. ..who's the Nth american cam slut ......hahagahahahHahHahaha


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:26 PM
Got me....


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:28 PM
Sheesh....oh thats hilarious....full points for the red star. ..that is awesomely hilarious in its entirity.....Reich-Roll'd


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:29 PM
Evolution....Aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh. .. Aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh Screaming OUT LOUD..


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 5:32 PM
It was Tara's response to someone who had mistakenly tried to form hostile intent against her. She did a Mock-Up of National Geographic, and wrote a FEATURE ARTICLE on the "Preening North American Cam Slut" (Duplicitus Sluttus). That's because National Geographic has a sense of humour. The Canadian Wildlife Fund threatened to sue us for the "Hinterland Who's Who" spot we were making... Parties quickly resolved all disputes, lest Tara put REAL effort into the blow-back. :D Good Times. :D


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:35 PM
Noooo...this is so funny..has anyone seen or heard from crazy man Dean Kory?? Just wondering what he's abouts are?? Strange how he's been slammed up gor talkin n walkin it.... same thing happened here to me. Strange goings on there...very strange indeed....


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Adam Thomas

Jul 13, 2013 5:37 PM
Oh wow...that sounds like a great read. Have ye a link I can read about it please Scott.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 5:42 PM
It might be in the internet archive. Tara has it on a backup somewhere. It's not published anymore.


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Scott Duncan

Jul 13, 2013 5:43 PM
We were doing the whole "blog" thing back in 1997. When Livejournal opened, we closed.


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David Johansen

Jul 14, 2013 1:22 AM
parking ticket. they are attempting to enjoin your auto in a contract, they placed a copy of it on it. I told them they can not charge me a fee to use land that I OWN, and they voided the ticket. (more to it than that but that is basically it in a nutchel.


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Stuart Stone

Jul 14, 2013 12:53 PM
Gail Blackman, just saw this one re Parking Fines in the UK... Probably applies equally where you are :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuVLph2Y8Q


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Derek Moran

Nov 13, 2013 8:55 PM
Scott Duncan: Fee schedules are LEGAL because they DESTROY the SECURITY INSTRUMENT.


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David Johansen

Nov 13, 2013 11:23 PM
"Accepting a fee or being paid back in return for acting as a surety is against the law." from derek's post containing http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/about/pubs/sureties.asp


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