RECESS - Record RESETS. So REPEAT EVERYTHING when you come back. ADJOURN - Record CONTINUES. Repeat everything anyway, because fuck them.

hence why i restated everything :)

Clear. Concise. To the point, with no clutter. After reading this, other than Scott, i dont think anybody is qualified on this page to belittle you again Derek...and id tell'im if they did > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4GoalAVE7I

liening the case file isnt required, but your objections become infinately more "heavy" as when you object no one has the authority to say anything since you liened the case file and hold all the value. that is why when you lien the file and object, their options are VERY LIMITED.

Great job Derek Hill! When they called case, did they ask if you we're Derek Hill and what your DOB was?

didnt get the cahnce too. i went in there against my qwill and in chains

You did accept the name. You just didn't accept the title they attached to it.

i objected to the name.

Ie, surety

the notice covers it i obnjected it because they didnt answer the questions

All you have to do is stuck to your guns on that ONE thing. It works every time. MAKE THEM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

And your BC was attached to the notice of mistake?

hence the objection and point of order. VERY effective if you know WHAT IT MEANS

no. NOTHING was attached to the notice

i JUSt filed the affidavit and the notice

Jo Xappie, you are TOTALLY missing the point of NOTICE OF MISTAKE.

I crafted it so it can be used to COMPLETELY remove presumption.

Absolutely!! However, when you show up for court and they ask if you're Jo X and what's you're DOB. if they don't hear what they're looking for they issue a bench warrant

good. let them, the notice of mistake still stands as they did not answer the questions. So if you get arrested, make sure to make them answer it still.

You don't KNOW your date of birth. All hearsay. ...and irrelevant. The questions MUST be answered to correct the MISTAKE.

Asking bullshit questions about hearsay Dates of birth, is PROCESS... PROCEEDINGS. WHICH MUST STOP UNTIL THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.

So before proceeding. The MISTAKE has to be dealt with first

...and ASKING for your DATE OF BIRTH? ASKING? Who are THEY to be questioning YOU?

Stop being a little bitch! YOU ask the questions...SLAVES ANSWER.

a proceeding can only continue if surety is present in order to proceed. Questioning negates understanding. not understanding negates any possibility of surety. No surety = no proceeding. Court CANNOT proceed until a surety is attached to the case file. You REQUIRE them to answer your questions.

Sorry your honour if I have lead this court to believe that I am surety for this matter that would be a MISTAKE. please forgive me

Seriously. You were the LAST one I expected to actually listen. Let me make a note in the commendation section! Oh there's LOTS of room here... DID WELL ...ENOUGH. :P

drop your honor. dont use titles to which you do not belong to. Not part of the club? Dont use the club house titles. You have no right to use their titles.

You actually listened. Colour me impressed.

Scott Duncan, are you referring to me?

Yes.

Mind = Blown

This whole pinned thread IS all about you.

Derek Hill, could I get your feedback, on another post made in a different thread? You see an adult with an imaginary friend said the following: "Do you have any of those ? There is nothing here that can't be read or heard elsewhere and repeating to the uninformed might make you feel superior but it doesn't establish that position for you in my perspective." In your experience, have you found this to be the case? :D

Do I just repeat other information?

Because if that's the case, I'll just let the Jesus folk fill you in. :D

fill me in on what? How to find god?

...and he claims I have no "original thought" too. Too stupid to see the irony of being programmed and claiming he has "original thought" :D Sorry, still raging against the stupidity. Nice work, Derek Hill. You ACTUALLY LISTENED. It almost makes this shit detail worthwhile. Almost.

Got a shit speech to text program. Recommendations scott?

Dragon Naturally Speaking. You won't speak natural... trust me :D

Fair play Derek... The notice clearly negates any possibility of the matter proceeding without first having the questions therein answered... Quick question... Do you operate through your SIN number for employment? If you did, would that be sufficient evidence for a prosecutor? I play music for a living and simply agree a fee with bar owners for which there is no record so no taxes etc... I'd imagine I'm pretty safe? Might as well ask....

You are.

It would make it difficult for them to establish any form of jurisdiction if there's no record of my acceptance of their tender for law...

NOTICE OF MISTAKE = ON/OFF ON, once you answer these questions. . . . .until then, these proceedings will continue to remain OFF The rub is of course- these are questions they never had any intention WHATSOEVER in answering on the Public Record to begin with, or else their JIG would be up.....in a sense, the Notice of Mistake has pre-determined that any proceedings were always destined to remain in OFF ..theres always the- "acting arbitrary/not following their own rules"-factor though, i suppose

My PRSI number (irish equivalent Of sin num) has not been used in any form in years

WOW!!!....what a good wake up this morning :D, Thank you Derek Hill, thank you very much for sharing, I never made a tantrum on you in here because I KNEW you had great potential :D :D, and I was looking at all these people in here being hard on you, and I said HA HA, one day they will have to APOLOGIZE :D Great stuff Man....( you guys never sleep or it's me that sleeps to much :/ )

Carl, you mentioned in the thread regarding the Guards stopping you but eventually letting you go that you had everything "up to date"... Wouldn't your license be considered an activity through the person?

Yes and it's the only one at present i have not paid tax or recieved benefits through the number at all in quite some time and i think my passport is out of date or if not will be very soon.

I wonder if Dean Clifford's point of view, "Can they prove I was using it at the time" is relevant...?

Eamonn O Brien, Re licences etc. I have struggled with this issue of acting through the person while learning how to better defend myself in 'legal land'. It is a mistake to use these documents as they are not mine. However, the guy at the side of the road holding a gun, a big stick and a shiny badge probably doesn't comprehend that he is not king dingaling & I'm not his bitch (nor are my loved ones who may be with me at the time) In my experience to date, it is sometimes more prudent to just do as the crazy man with the gun says (under duress or as Authorised Representative) & then correct the mistake administratively later. As I get better at dealing with these people, then my approach will evolve as well

Damn, I showed the guy with the gun at the side of the road my work permit...and then I remembered, holy crap, it's my day off today! That would be a 'mistake', but guns make me nervous & I was flustered, so please forward the time sheets if I was on duty ;-)

I know from experience that there's nothing you can say to these people that will prevent them from detaining you if one is driving illegally and thus in their eyes, breaking the law... I've gone over possible conversations with these people in my head hundreds of times in preparation :p If there's no breach of the peace then I don't understand their intent. Let them know that. They have to do what they have to do and vice versa... Notice of mistake can do the talking after that :D

I see Notice of Mistake closing the talk more than initiate it Eamonn O Brien, :D , There is not much to say for them, other than to answer questions they just can't answer :D

Ye know what I meant... Once the notice is served you only have to worry about one statement after that...

The licence one is a hard one for me at present as i need it and am not qualified to drive not using it yet. I also have to take into consideration the fact i cannot be getting pulled out of it every and having it impounded daily as i am somebodies full time carer and spend allot of time back and forward to hospitals with him so my car is up to date and it's the only interaction i have with them. I have yet to be in court over any driving except no insurance but as i did have it the case was thrown out. Thats the thing i don't mind paying insurance if it's my choice to do so, i am not looking for a way to live for free and get out of paying my bills with all this i just simply cannot be a slave to them for no other reason than i will not live my life on my knees for any man.

Put a Company licence plate on your car, and drive without licence, drive safely and NOTHING will happen to you, I did that for a long period of time....don't bother with that stuff LOL... :D

All the years I drove without a driver's licence I had NOT once had a ticket, because I could not AFFOARD it, all the tickects I had was when I had the PERMISSION to receive them....funny innit ? :D

A driver's licence gives you the PERMISSION to do wrong :D ...so funny :D

If asked about a license we could always state that we don't own one... That should constitute refusal of joinder...

I know one guy that done it, and after 3 hours, the cops just left :D

I would make a point of saying it is a contact we forced into against our will with the threat of kidnap and as it doesn't belong to me they are welcome to keep it if they wish.

They CAN't rob your car with YOU sitting in it Mo Chara Do Chara

very true i got out of my car when he robbed me keys then they took it when i got out to him and his budies

you do not need licenses, permits, regristration, or insurance. all contract law. most fundamental right tis the right not to contract

what I get now but I didn't see before was you don't have to get rid of your drivers license and ID and stuff the notice a mistake will take care of it in the courtroom because they can't get past the notice of mistake

the notice of mistake separates you from the surety liability of the contract

Congrats Derek Hill,... I was served Friday, for court on Monday, (not much time to send in paperwork) so my notice of mistake will be my weapon of choice, though it won't be notarized, I'm thinking a witnessed affidavit with attached "exhibit A" will suffice??

3 witnesses... I think so

Served for what AGAIN Kelleran Holman ? :D

Kellerean return it back to them. Not surety

lol, the kids left the gate open by accident for roughly 60 seconds, dog got ran out to greet two dogs and their owner, the "greeting" was not well received, and there was some altercation between his dogs and my dog, that lasted less than 30 seconds...so guy didn't want to talk to me or accept any apologies, just went off cursing, and swearing...a few days later animal control wants me to get a "licence" for the dog, I declined that offer....this was "on or about june 2"...I had all but forgotten about it till the cops came banging on the door...funny they would wait till 3 days before the court date, I would have registered mailed it back to them but I know it won't get there in time, so....

" DICK YOU REALY USE VULGARITY AND TELL HIM TO "SUCK DICK"?" Was a she. she fucked me around on family court, ignoring my evidence for the restraining order and laughed at me. Bitch made it personal.

ive been getting messages about family court and how i would approach it. Im still working on a plan. Scott Duncan, if you be so kind to hit me up in skype for a bit? Yes i know you said i cant do anything, but you did give tips such as lien the child and something else. But my memory fails me at the moment.

This would actually be a great article for Brenda Larson to read. I know she made a valiant attempt at this in-court, but got stymied when the justice said he didnt understand what she was saying.

Yes. he follows my example. NO SECRETS. This isn't a fucking law firm. This is for EDUCATION, not for your personal problems. Those that try to do shit "behind the scenes" help nobody but themselves. You also did not listen to me when I said LOSE THE CAPS. SO... You will feel a tingling sensation, followed by... BANNED! :D

Derek Moran I am still working on this. I have not given up. I must say that I understand this process a whole lot better today then I did when I tried it the first time. I will probably try it again shortly. One of my problems is that I don't have birth ceritificate for the notice of mistake, and according to Quebec vital statistic I never had.

Pete Daoust gave me the contact to get my live birth record in Quebec, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Chad Brodgesell I was never in possession of my birth certificate, because it was never issued. In the '60s in Quebec you got baptised along with getting your birth certificate. My mother was an atheist and so all I ever had I think was my live birth record. The RCMP stole all of my personal records and wouldn't return them, so I went and applied to Quebec vital statics for new documents. They told me that I needed my baptismal certificate to get my birth certificate and I could pay another $120.00 to get a birth certificate issued. They couldn�t find where a birth certificate had ever been issued for me. Told them I didn't have such a baptismal certificate, and never did. That all I really wanted was my live birth record. They told me that document was property of the hospital that I was born at. So I said ok tell me what hospital I was born at and I will get it myself. They said they couldn't do that and hung up. So now I have nothing. When I went to school, I started in Germany and I don't know what my mother did there to get me in. And once we moved to the states I got a green card, and again I don't know what my mother did there. I don't remember what info I used to get my driver�s license in the states but once we moved back to Canada I just traded my old driver�s license for one in Calgary.

That is interesting Brenda Larson, is it possible that you don't have a person ?

How could you possibly go to court WITHOUT a PERSON ? Scott Duncan, is this possible ?

Do you have a CITIZENSHIP card ?, a passport ?

You can't CLAIM without a person. You can RESPOND as a "friend of the court".

That is really weird Brenda Larson and interesting at the same time as it shows that a BC is NOT required. Wonder if the LBR wait...but the BC states that the info IS AN EXTRACT of the LBR. Soooo.. the BC is just the PAPER proof that a security exists meaning the security is created from the LBR to begin with. Or am I wrong?

Yes, you need a person in order to MAKE a claim in their system. The person is like a middle man. You interact through it.

Well twice we got busted for weed and both times they dropped the charges against me. I'm just wondering whether that had anything to do with it? The RCMP just claimed that the old man took the fall for it so, he was the one that ended up with the charges, jail and court fines.

I never have had a citizenship card, and I have had passports, my last passport was also taken by the RCMP. Im thinking that everything was a lot less stringent in the past for getting passports and drivers licenses. I know that when I signed up the middle kid for school I never was asked for her birth certificate.

Si, Who are you Brenda Larson ?

I'm still trying to figure that out. But I do know that I'm not the legal person.

What legal person ? :-D

exactly but it doesn't stop government agencies and the like from presuming/assuming that I have one.

Maybe clarifying this with them could be an option

put them on notice. canada gazette. or lien your name with a LLC.

Derek Hill, she dosen't seems to even have a NAME :/

hey curious Scott Duncan, is a restraining order a financial instrument and/or bond that generates revenue for the PROVINCE OF ONTARIO? If so, then i guess JUSTICES have an incentive to keep restraining orders in place huh?

Yes. EVERYTHING out of a court is revenue. They are all BILLS OF EXCHANGE and is attached to ACCOUNTING by way of a CHARGING INSTRUMENT.

Can bills of exchange be "amended" as adam thomas goes on about

In fact Derek Hill, the PERSON that send you a bill of exchange, has the OBLIGATION to disclosed to you, all the methods availaibal to discharge it, IF YOU ASK FOR IT. :D

well since i got 27 lawyers and 15 mps to fail to answer, im going to see duty counsil (for no reason other than asking questions) to see their reaction The best reaction was the "get the fuck out of my office one" Priceless one. Was in ottawa.

PS i got some written correspondence too, whole bunch of estopples. So awesome.

In writing seems to be more effective�.here is the way I do it. I write them that I indeed received their bill of exchange, and I would like to take care of this matter as fast as I can. As per the bill of exchange Act, you have the OBLIGATION of disclosing ALL methods available to me concerning this bill of exchange. So, I am ASKING you, and REQUEST from you, all these methods. Rest assured that I will take care of this matter as soon as I receive your response. In good faith, with Respect, Honor, Dignity and Integrity By:________________________ Master of PIERRE DAOUST (account Number: 119XXXXXXX) Any thoghts would be greatly appreciate :D

Pierre, is your account number your SIN?

Their SIN, yes....

Or I may use the BC number, depending on how I feel...

I thought so...thanks for clarifiing.

I have two different birth certificates issued. Both with different letters and numbers. One legal name spelled all caps and the other does not. Is there a reason why? Do I have two persons?

Names on Birth certificates that are NOT in ALL CAPS and have a BLANK BACK were issued to the Children and Grandchildren of VETRAN OFFICERS of WW2.

'Birth certificates that are NOT in ALL CAPS and have a BLANK BACK were issued to the Children and Grandchildren of VETRAN OFFICERS of WW2.' Does that entitle me to something more? And why did they not issue the same one when requested, instead of an ALL CAPS name?

The "VETERAN'S Offspring" version (It has no official name) gives you BENEFIT, without liability.

Scott is saying The "VETERAN'S Offspring" version (It has no official name) gives you BENEFIT, without liability. Leigh OftheHouseof Collins....

OK�.just to get it straight, I receive in MY mailbox a bill of exchange (Lettre de change in French) This thing is addressed to PIERRE DAOUST I am the Lawful Holder of this thing called PIERRE DAOUST So I have a duty of ASKING these guys who sent me this thing, on what to do with this thing And, as per the Bill of Exchange act, these guys have a duty to DISCLOSE all the remittance methods available for me to deal this matter. Or, maybe I can just re-direct, through Canada Post registered mail, this thing to its owner, which in my case, is Le gouvernement du Quebec ? ( I got this thought after Scott Duncan mentioned something about a nuke being delivered to my person by MISTAKE :/ ) Shall I include a Notice of Waiver if I decide to re-direct the thing to its owner ? I�m in a process of using the option no. 1 with a specific Bill of Exchange received from Hydro-Quebec, and addressed to PIERRE DAOUST. I have sent my 3rd REQUESTS yesterday, and they keep the silence so far�.It�s been one complete year and NOTHING happened so far, they just keep sending me these bill of exchange, the last one I received was a $3600.00 appx bill of exchange. And, according to them, I have until July the 15th to take care of it, but since they don�t answer me, I can�t take care of it�.. :(

Pete Daoust, 12 months no payment from you and they still have your hydro connected? Sounds like a contract to me.

Yep...what can they do ?...I have sent them 3 letters begging them to solve that matter, :/

Derek Hill, after serving the Crown with my affidavit, do I appear at court or let them issue a warrant for my arrest?

Ride out and meet them! Take the fight to them. Smile while you do it. Just my Opinion, Derek Hill and others might be different.

NO! READ THE THREAD YOU DOZY BROAD! MAKE THEM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ARREST IS PROCESS. YOU DO NOT LET THEM PROCEED UNTIL THEY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS! FUCK! Why hasn't Natural Selection killed you people off!

Your questions are IRRELEVANT. Derek Hill answered all of your questions (I really just typed that, didn't I?). The fact that you THINK wrong and VALUE THE WRONG THINGS here, is not my problem.I ALWAYS give the answer. The RIGHT answer. It does not matter if you are focused on the wrong things. Reality doesn't care.

" Names on Birth certificates that are NOT in ALL CAPS and have a BLANK BACK were issued to the Children and Grandchildren of VETERAN OFFICERS of WW2." Holy FUCK- i have to read this whole post but where did THAT observation come from, im sitting here absolutely GOBSMACKED...you just described and/or answered the questions regarding the Birth Certificate i have to a 'T'!

Leigh oftheHouseof Collins when serving the Notice of Mistake they will try to move past it as already described in this thread and another as well (wish I could paste but I can not). You DO NOT let them talk about ANYTHING else except answering the questions posed in the Notice of Mistake. That is riding out to meet them. Not letting them roam around. The QUESTION of WHO you are IN THEIR system is in question.

Leigh OftheHouseof Collins OP = Original Poster = Me. Leigh I am in the same difficulty as you. I had my child which i love ripped from me without any reason. Leigh its important to understand that arrest/probation/hearing/motion/form of defence/disclosure/summons/etc are ALL part of process.

Scott- is there an ACT that talks about this "VETERAN'S Offspring" version BC in more detail? :/

Scott Duncan - Can you go into details of amending orders. I looked through the BOE but i didnt see anything that would lead me to that.

No, because you SIGNED IT. Now you get added to the provincial budget roll as a PEACE OFFICER for the fiscal years the ORDER covers. All probation is: BUDGET PADDING for "Law enforcement". That money comes direct from the consolidated reserve fund.

Look on the ORDER: TO KEEP THE PEACE and be of GOOD behaviour.

and you arent even getting paid. god damn.

Well, you signed it :D

Next time negotiate a salary! :D

Hmmm. thought that was in my favor as they obstructed me in my duties of keeping the peace. How nice of me to volunteer. ;)

JUSTICE "I am making a peace bond for you for 6 months. You are ordered to keep the peace and be on good behaviour" Me "ok, but i want 1.5mil a day for my services." JUSTICE "You are out of your mind" Me "I must be. I cant remain calm when fucktards like you are running the show"

Well, on Thursday, I guess I am unsigning it.

notice of mistake.

I always have a VOID stamp in my briefcase. :D

Ask to see the original order, and stamp VOID.

Problem solved.

they will NEVER give you the original, trust me, i tried to do that and they kept the original in front of me with chains.

You ARE one of the parties. It's your RIGHT to VOID a contract.

chaisn as in they kept that shit on lockdown i can only see from the distance.

The ORIGINAL order MUST be presented as PROOF. Demand to inspect it. When you have it in your hand, TEAR IT UP.

You are the ONLY one in the courtroom with the right to do that.

just to clarify a court order right? including an interim/final order for oh lets say.....custody.access?

scott the standing issue, is that applicable only to crown and/or other lawyers for the opposing party?

Yes.

Yes to which?

The CROWN IS NOT AND CAN NOT BE A PARTY.

THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT A PERSON.

ONLY A PERSON CAN BE A PARTY.

I love that :D

the CROWN is also a corporation, therefor cannot have higher standing if any at all than you. Therefor you can unilaterally terminate ANY contract with government. including restraining order?

I'll say that again. HAMMER IT INTO YOUR HEADS! THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT A PERSON

P.S. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT A PERSON

The government is a TRUST ?

GOVERNMENT != PROVINCE?

No. Government is an ADMINISTRATIVE ZONE. Google "Responsible Government"

That is true everywhere in the commonwealth EXCEPT AUSTRALIA.

what is the exception?

ALL threads are written under The Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License. You can reproduce it and do whatever you like with it, as long as you: 1: Give Credit to the Authors 2:Never Make Money from it.

This licence is VICIOUSLY enforced by cuthroat lawyers who do nothing else (http://eff.org).

Person can only be singular (induvidual) while Government is plural persons (a collective of ) ? Governments are not trusts, they only hold trusts as the trustees?

Chad Brodgesell steals home! :D

Just thought you'd stealth your way around the bases, huh? :D Very clever. Good for you. You ACTUALLY LISTEN. You may even be smart enough to figure out what the token french guy is for! :D

Scott, where do you inspect the court orders(original) I ask because while i was replying with facebook mobile i checeked and its not in the endorsement record.

Forgot to add, the Crown can not be a person because he/she is representing the Government. Read that... re...presenting. therefore since the Government can not be a person neither can the Crown.

You are doing just fine, Chad Brodgesell. :D AS AN ASIDE, REGARDING LICENCING: I only say NON COMMERCIAL for what is discussed in threads. As I said in the OTHER thread by Kent Barrett, you are welcome to make as much money as people are dumb enouh to pay, off of Scott Duncanisms.

When anyone asks, all I ask is attribution. I waive any and all benefit of ANY proceeds you make.

I just dislike PAYING for knowledge. TRUTH is NOT a commodity.

Knowledge is slipping behind the paywall. Aaron Swartz DIED fighting the Pay For Knowledge mentality people are developing. It truly disgusts me. But making money FROM knowledge is what I ENCOURAGE! That is your key to liberty. And those who gain wealth from my knowledge will already be smart enough to know AQUILAE is the ONLY "safe" bank. :D I'll have your money ANYWAY. :P

...and you'll do it of your own free will too!

Mmmhhh... I see the government of Quebec as a HUGE trust Chad Brodgesell :/

Sorry....The Person is kept IN TRUST in The Gouvernement du Quebec Trust....this is how I get it :/ ((gggrrrrrr.....) Scott Duncan please :/

It's not YOUR person. It's A person.

Pete Daoust, aren't you still tied into France (french law) in some fashion?

Civil Law.

Can not be the person only represent it as a trustee or beneficiary i think. Hj*nnj*

Scott Duncan would that be SOLELY CIVIL?

Look at how you use a Stock or bond. You "Own" it, but it is NOT "yours".

Scott Duncan is a PRIVATE NAME that is NOT DERIVED FROM A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. It's Neither Civil, nor is it Common Law.

Scott Duncan appears on the PUBLIC RECORD, in yearbooks, "employment", etc. I leave these markers to "prove" to early students that what I say is true. My "first batch" of "slaves" was a disaster. Scott Duncan only appears when it's most important.

Scott, i just attempted to hold the original, but they refused to let me hold it and inspect it. Stating that its very valuable. No shit. How would you go about obtaining the original if only for 5 seconds to void it. PS. Security was called to have me removed....

Go to the courthouse and ask to see the record.

Which record. Its not in continuing record and endorsement record. Endorsement was just notes on what the order was based off of.

Sign in with YOUR NAME. It is your RIGHT to alter ANY contract before it's executed. The law is VERY clear on this. You have ONE UNALIENABLE RIGHT. The RIGHT NOT TO CONTRACT.

But the order was already made, and i was served with it. It would already be executed but i am probably wrong on this. There is really no where to sign in, you go to the court clerk(with your number) and ask to see your case file. IT then have everything. The actual orders they must retrieve a special file for it, but they will not give it to me. this order has been in effect since september, restraining order(if the same for voiding) is not present or that is what the clerk said.

anyways i had to leave they were closing....try again tomorrow.

Yes Chad Brodgesell, here, it is Civile Code of Quebec.

Even better. They will scream and shout, and maybe even call the police...except there is a problem: If YOU are DEREK HILL, then it's your RIGHT to void it. Have you been given valuable consideration? NO WAY! Is there an INJURED PARTY? IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL CHARGE! It's a UNILATERAL CONTRACT and it is MOST CERTAINLY your right to void.

security removed me by force. babys mama was there laughing... I understand that its my right to void it, but the clerk wont give it to me to void it. I am just thinking how i can get the fucking thing in my hand for a brief moment.

The Difference between CIVIL LAW and COMMON LAW...Legally. ALWAYS remember. THEY ARE BOTH "LEGAL SYSTEMS"

GO WITH RED. IGNORE THE BLUE. RED RED RED

I hope that was clear enough.

Stamp is required or just ink the bitch? Yea clear. you KNOW JUSTICES will freak, hence the other post i had in the other topic scott :)

the tickets from my arrest thread...I voided by hand in red ink, no stamp handy at the time...still waiting to see how that turned out been a month now registered mailed tickets back with witnessed notice of mistake

The Civil Code of Qu�bec, in harmony with the Charter of human rights and freedoms (chapter C-12) and the general principles of law, governs persons, relations between persons, and property. :D

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=2&file=/CCQ_1991/CCQ1991_A.html

The Civil Code comprises a body of rules which, in all matters within the letter, spirit or object of its provisions, lays down the jus commune, expressly or by implication. In these matters, the Code is the foundation of all other laws, although other laws may complement the Code or make exceptions to it.

They have sent me a bill of exchange concerning this ticket that I've wrote NO CONTRACT in red, a unindentified PERSON decided to enter a plea for me :/

Now, i will have to ASK them WHO is this unidentified PERSON who made that decision of entering a plea for me, and REQUEST from them on what to do with this bill of exchange :/

Could you not charge them with meddling in your affairs?

Maybe....I'll start by the start, and ask WHO entered that plea, and I will go from there.. :D

...also, to avoid there existing a blank side to my notice of mistake...I wrote in large letters "TURN OVER-----)" on the back side, so there could be no excuses about "all I see is a blank page"...no idea if that could/would happen, but better to have it covered I thought, lol

So scott, how is the Australian govt an Administrative zone operating as Government please??

Non dervis??

when I was in prison they came and took our red ink pens we filed a lawsuit in the Federal Supreme Court and won because they said we had the right to make contract and they couldn't we couldn't make contract without the red ink pen

they had to of credit our account and start selling red ink pens in the store

Scott Duncan, Could this procedure be applied to a marriage license? Finding or obtaining a certified copy, authorizing it as new original, then voiding it?

Would you not need to have hubby wife and justice together and reverse it because the marriage was sworn before god and justice?

I would think, having agreement from 4 out of 5 parties would be pretty indisputable. I and "hubby" agree and I know the witnesses that were present would agree that we ALL had NO IDEA what was REALLY taking place. But what Freezebee said too.

Ok Scott Duncan i got the orders certify true copies. Consent order is missing but i got the agreement the consent order was based on

am I able to file a notice of mistake and be my living self even though there is a marriage license in my name? i have been advised no but not sure of the validity

Yes you are not declaring yourself as dead. The notice clears up a mistake that you have been identified as surety in whatever matter you have before the court so whoever gave you that advice is lying or ignorant.

Chris Schulte as far as I can remember informed me that because I am receiving the benefit of a license a notice of mistake is not of use to me.

thank you for clearing it up

The notice will work anytime you are wrongly identified as being the party with surety licence or not you are entitled to a mistake and they must forgive that as far as i can see.

ORDER > BILL OF EXCHANGE > CONTRACT > no CONSIDERATION given to you = your RIGHT then to VOID it GOVERNMENT not a PERSON > therefore GOVERNMENT not a PARTY > GOVERNMENT not even a TRUST > Government a CROWN-HOLDING-CORPORATION > HOLDING the TRUSTS > the TRUSTS being HELD, by the TRUSTEES > i.e. my TRUSTEE = REGISTRAR GENERAL of ONTARIO

Derek Moran, nice tidy summery.

So I guess here is Directeur de l'�tat civil du Qu�bec ?

You actually helped clarify alot. Before i would've said- "GOVERNMENT is NOT a PERSON. GOVERNMENT is a TRUST" - BUT, you clarified that in talking with Scott, that actually: "Governments are not trusts, they only hold trusts as the trustees..." ( Scott Duncan clicked LIKE on this)

Scott Duncan: EVERYTHING out of a court is revenue. They are all BILLS OF EXCHANGE and is attached to ACCOUNTING by way of a CHARGING INSTRUMENT. ..im guessing they NEED to get YOU to act as SURETY for that charging-instrument TOO, for them to succeed and get that REVENUE? ;)

this one, Derek Hill

Scott Duncan. what to do when you rip up the original orders and they just reprint it from their digital records?

Would that not be construed as hearsay, a document of? Also the Digital is derived from the Original. So if the Original is destroyed then all derived from it is of no force or effect. As long as you stand your ground on it. Just thoughts.

I'm thinking that you have something there Chad Brodgesell, cause I went into the court house yesterday and requested a true certified copy of the original order that I had voided (they say tampered with). They kept insisting that they give me a previously photocopied one and wanted to certify it as a true original copy. I told them no, I wanted a true certified original copy. Well the clerk said that she went through it and it is a mirror copy of the original. I said no. So I'm thinking that the reason why they don't want to give me the true certified original is because it is no longer valid, and they are not wanting to admit it. Trying to drag this out for as long as possible and hopefully I don't know what I have really done. Next time I go to family court I'm definitely going to have to challenge the validity of that document.

I had gone yesterday as well and voided the locate and detain order, and I sent it back by registered mail to the court house. They should have gotten it today. The cops wont come to the house, but instead are going around to the kids' friends homes and scaring the crap out of the parents. Of all things they have told the boyfriend's family that we are into some really bad shit and they're (cops) scared to go there because its dangerous. Now anybody with half a brain would internalize this and say well, if the kid was there and the cops wont go there to detain her, how is that in her best interest? They would leave a kid in a situation that the cops know is bad and not go and rescue her because they are scared to go to a place that is dangerous. What the hell. They wont come here cause they know that I have voided the order and I now what is going on and they would have a hard time taking her. Plus I have a camera set up in the front window.

Who are these cops ?....RCMP ?

yupp

Brenda, I think the True Original copy, went for "payment"

Already plundered the person.

It was in the file cause they used the photocopied version that they wanted to hand me to verify that it was identical to the one that I had tampered with.

Was probably a certified copy only though.

If you're being accused of tampering with a court document you know that's a serious charge why didn't why aren't you in jail?

I would ask them how is the tempering when I have power of attorney and I have the power to end the contract with voiding it

I would state I'm acting as power of attorney and ending the contract that is not answering what you're lying you're making a false statement you know that is a crime to make a false statement and accuse me of a crime that is not a crime

I would have asked them for their name and their bond number so that I could lien them because they're acting out of their duty they only have the duty to file the court documents

Is it too late to void if payment is done ? Maybe return the void certified copy to bank of canada for a "credit" ?

I compare this to day to day business now, if I say shit, please forgive me :-D

100% TRUE & CORRECT. ....WOOFUCKINHOO.......

Lee, this will be a good thread for you to read just in case you get yourself arrested for anything and/or they MISTAKE you for being "Include Her Majesty and an organization" ;)