"all debts public and private"?
can that be interpreted to be a claim that all private debts are also public?
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Scott Duncan
It's an offer for courts to resolve private disputes in their jurisdiction. Trawling for victims of ignorance.
Chris Evan
mhmmm...But the tender is interpreted as "Public" or "Private", correct? As in the tender serves 2 purposes......
Chris Evan
I may have just pulled that out of my ass, but I am basing it on the wording in 12 USC 411 which I have been reading up on.
Chris Evan
The silence is making me tingly........
Scott Duncan
Fiat currency (Government Currency) is always, by its very nature, Public.
Gail Marie
when we get a loan....money is created by our signature (private) and the bank exchanges that into public?
Chris Evan
By identifying with our Public NAME or number?
Scott Duncan
BANKS do CURRENCY exchange with usury as a fee.
Scott Duncan
"ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE" - If you are a woman, and you decide that hanging around me and letting me use you like a plastic fuck doll is a good idea, then there is a PRIVATE arrangement. if MONEY changes hands, there is a LEGAL TENDER (A tender for law) attached to it, making the LEGAL aspects of the PRIVATE debts, the jurisdiction of the LAW SOCIETY.
Scott Duncan
It was a good question, David Johansen. I hope that was a clear answer.
Scott Duncan
The Law Society inserts itself ANYWHERE there might be conflict.
Gail Marie
so in the case of a corp being an exchange, where legal tender changes hands, the corporation has any liability created by the legal tender exchange?
Pete Daoust
The Law Society inserts itself ANYWHERE there might be conflict.
It's like EVERYWHERE :/
August le Blanc
Fuck, missed the point totally...
this is on the american dollar... DUH... shit and stain.
Chris Evan
American Dollar? I've never seen one of those!
August le Blanc
Whatever.. fuck you...
To me as a guy north of the you, in an administrative zone...
One calls Southern people Mercian next store to the Mexicans.... using dollars..which have ^^^^^^^
The original posts quote. on it.
Which I had not noticed before...
So your from America and Its a Dollar...
of the Govt of the USA... which borrows from the Banks
the Feds Canadian Tire money.
:-D
Issued by the Fed... which is a corp.
Chris Evan
I am messing with you....Federal Reserve Notes. :-)
Chris Evan
FRNs = Canadian Tire money
August le Blanc
YEP YEP... I was on to you... :-D
Scott Duncan
No.
Scott Duncan
They are VERY different.
Chris Evan
ah.....ok. Because of the tender for law
Chris Evan
duh!
Jeff Roggers
my dad used to tell me about the way they folded it so they can get in the back room where the hookers were
Scott Duncan
A federal reserve note is Currency (Money of exchange) that has a LEGAL TENDER attached. Use constitutes consent
Chris Evan
Canadian Tire money has a different TENDER attached to it. :-)
August le Blanc
Hook line and sinker.....
You wanna play you gotta pay.
Scott Duncan
Canadian Tire money is a COUPON. You are ALREADY conducting a financial transaction with Canadian Tire, so there is NO TENDER attached, and the Canadian Tire Money REDUCES your outstanding debt (Money of account)
Jeff Roggers
he also told me that if I ever found anybody that new WHAT this legal tender means stick to him like glue
Scott Duncan
The two are NOTHING alike.
August le Blanc
ok... was just speaking about the words "American Dollars"
Does not The USA borrow from the FED?
I was also thinking along the lines of the whole bait and switch aspects. And the fact that you are playing by thier rules when you use their coupons ...
To use the coupon you are bound by their rules...
So if international trade is done In American Dollars
( common use).
UCC has dominoin over international trade and US Dollars are the currency.
Jurisdiction falls to UCC. so to enforce they can send in the clowns correct?
ANYWHERE on Land that is... no commerce at sea
Chris Evan
Use of FRNs means ADVICE on how to discharge, yes?
Jeff Roggers
all I can say is please watch the video again
August le Blanc
WTF is a FRNs?
Chris Evan
Federal Reserve Notes.
August le Blanc
duh again...
Chris Evan
Why "Jeff"? What is it that you think we are missing?
Jeff Roggers
because I don't think many people understand what money is
Jeff Roggers
I've been looking since I was 5 years old to find someone that knew what this legal tender means to be able to explain it.
Jeff Roggers
everytime I watch the required viewing I learn something new and if I am why aren't you?
Scott Duncan
..and it's really not that hard. People just keep telling lies about it.
August le Blanc
For clarification of what was in the meaning from my protoplasm of
the following:
"which borrows from the Banks the Feds Canadian Tire money."
I was referring to spend ability in that domain, as well.
A poor analogy.
Jeff Roggers
how do we take money of account and changed it into money of exchange?
Gail Marie
by creating your own currency? exchanging money of account to your own money of exchange or bitcoin?
August le Blanc
Thru the trustee corp which is the currency exchange for
Whatever current you want to follow...
Jeff Roggers
HOW
Gail Marie
sell your service(value) for bitcoin or your own currency, exchange others legal tender into your own currency/bitcoin...then have them pay you for your service(value) with your own currency?
Jeff Roggers
Scott How do you take money of account and transform it into money of exchange??
August le Blanc
As a term and condition of doing business, you set the rule of commerce in your domain. For example;
" We accept Bitcoin only" and offer the means to exchange their money of exchange into bit coin.
At the rate of that moment in time.
Jeff Roggers
Do you guys want to continue to speculate or do you want Scott Duncan to teach us??
August le Blanc
Who the fuck are you to say...
Sure I would love Scott to teach us...
However this is how it was explained to me by Scott a while ago... To the best of my recollection it is correct..
August le Blanc
Pardon moi. :-D
Jeff Roggers
okay so what are the steps step by step how we take money of account and make it money of exchange step by step without using crypto currency just using basic English because I'm a fucking retard
Jeff Roggers
liening the legal title name only becomes an asset within the corporation money of account how do I get cash out of this?
August le Blanc
The only purpose of the lien is to estoppel them in their tracks and use of the Name and accounts associated with.... No money of exchange or currency to be converted. On that particular set of Liens, it is a administrative blockade for strategic purposes.
Pete Daoust
Pardonne Moi....
Pete Daoust
Par = From
Donne = Give
August le Blanc
GFYH = go fuck your hat :-D
Intersting...
August le Blanc
there is that thing again where every word is different...
Jeff Roggers
well in my thinking if we're not in a boat within the next 6 months where all fucking dead and I mean fucking dead dead not fucking fake dead I mean real dead
August le Blanc
Easy big fella. There is a sense of urgency.
No need to panic and not think things thru.
Michael Of-House Gantzer
Private Money! We are allowed to make use of it in a usufructuary (Black's Law 1st Ed: In the civil law, one who has the usufruct or right of enjoying anything in which he has no property) capacity. I may not be completely correct in that statement. But, since the Gov't contracts/pays a corporation for the use of a product they produce that in the end must be returned (taxes) to them.
Scott Duncan
First: Watch the required viewing. You are focused on "clubhouse rules" and you don't quite understand money.
Evolve beyond it. Stop appealing to your rapist.
Bitcoin doesn't really fit your description, does it? ;) This was just supposed to be a PROOF OF CONCEPT with ALPHA QUALITY CODE. It has a Billion dollar market cap.
You only THINK you know what money is, and are producing the wrong answers. Watch and learn. If you've already watched it, then you totally missed the point. :P
http://youtu.be/3P7izAUe3ZM
August le Blanc
"Evolve beyond it"
I first saw this back when it was posted as required viewing.... many times months ago.
I watched it again, today. The understanding one has now of money is far more comprehensive, The protection of the notice of mistake, the ability to deal with forces that have kicked my ass, most of my life, were taught to me here.
The mindfuck I have had recently wasn't as bad as I thought, just had to use it, had to jog the memory...
My conversations, a while ago, with the Admiral had me reevaluate everything and showed me I was still valuing the wrong things. So if I have gone thru this... then I know at least 1 other person may have or will, as well.
I think of it as part of the cargo of this forum it is important to add value.
The value of a common experience and that the hard part is done... as was pointed out, as well as the fact,
I have already paid dearly for it.
It is fascinating to me. Empowering.
"The Tender For Law" is the hole in the fence.
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