The Tender For Law

Volume 3

Jul 01, 2013 4:13 PM

Scott Duncan, I would love to hear your feedback! I am finally following YOUR advice and sending a notice of mistake. Yes folks... I am doing what Scott said (or at least my interpretation of it).

I am using this for a child support allegation, but you could use this for anything!

http://freedomfromgovernment.us/?p=217

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Jeffrey Dale Sarnstrom

I, too, am dropping off my Notice of Mistake to the DUNN COUNTY CLERK OF COURTS today. I hope this works because I refuse to be a U.S. Citizen. I am an American and take a stand against all the crime against humanity!

Scott Duncan

I'm just warming up, Trent! :D

It's going to take a bit of social-engineering, and a LOT of teaching, but I am building something HUGE.

When thetenderforlaw.com is up, then I will start showing you how to secure your freedom with technology. Not only that, I will show you all, step-by-step, how to do EXACTLY the same thing. All the government stooges can do is tremble in impotent fury, while we construct beyond their understanding.

I'm waiting for a declaration of "crazy" from the government, so I am free to disclose EVERYTHING... including the very contract that bound me to keep my mouth shut. :D

So, I'm glad you appreciate it, and am overjoyed that you are actually USING it in its proper manner. :D

It's not an ego-boost, it's reassurance that I'm not wasting my most precious asset; My time.

Scott Duncan

Pardon me for "Stereotyping" but you really do exhibit the mentality of the Free-Dumb Movement. "Of the Family" is the first indicator. Dump that shit.

Can you use it in the UK? Exactly who's permission are you seeking?

Your kind are always seeking "magic" documents, and never actually READ WHAT THE FUCKING THING SAYS.

Notice of mistake is to detach yourself from names derived from Public Documents. It is your right to declare it, and NOT their right to refuse.

YOU decide what documents can be used where. Not me. Not the UK government. YOU.

READ THE DOCUMENT and figure out its intent. It's written in the Queen's English, so you can't claim it's written in a language you don't understand! NOTICE OF MISTAKE isn't written in Yiddish, and has no magic powers.

Just remember. There are no "Stupid Questions". Just inquisitive idiots... :P

Dump the Free-Dumb shit. Seriously.

Scott Duncan

Yes. Yes there is a need to "be like that".

Your kind are a threat to those seeking ACTUAL answers. I speak up EVERY time I see that Free-Dumb Movement shit.

Your question encourages a mentality I vehemently oppose. I do not pander to laziness. I am the author of the original. The doctrine behind its use is right here in these forums. That's where it was originally published.

I'm sorry if you have hurt feelings, but there is a profound necessity for me to "be like that". I wonder if you can figure out why.

Scott Duncan

That would mean you are subscribed to the group.

Have you read the "pinned" post in the group?

I NEVER "invite" people here. They enter of their own free will. The fact that you ask premature questions, means your critical thinking faculties are limited too.

There is a big "Lurker Purge" coming up. Try not to be in it. Start actually READING the group.

It's a mess at the moment... I grant that. But it won't exist in its current form much longer. The keys will be tossed to Derek Moran, and he can circle-jerk with the group over "clubhouse rules".

In the meantime, everything you are currently capable of grasping, is in this group SOMEWHERE.

You might want to ditch the "of the family" thing, too. I target those every time I see them, and give the bearer of "of the family" all the contempt the Free-Dumb movement deserves.

James Trent Goodbaudy

I was wondering how to actually refer to myself... I decided that Scott was right again... I simply authorized the creation of the document... I don't need a name... my mark and seal are good enough. I did think about getting a couple of witnesses though... would that have been better?

Chris Evan

Scott, I see what you are saying, but you have a way of removing belief and not replacing it with a NEW belief as do most other "Teachers". You only show the path and let the reader form THEIR new knowledge! I appreciate that!!

Carl Dunne

I think the reason for that Chris is if he was to instil another belief we would become dependent where as if we first learn to think for ourselves when he eventually disappears and becomes inaccessible we can carry on ourselves.

James Trent Goodbaudy

I know you do, so how exactly do you survive? What do you do for a living? I sell information every day! I wouldn't be able to survive without selling my skills and 'information' to people that need articles written, graphic design work, or web design work. How about charging money for services? Products? Where should I draw the line? Shouldn't people be free to barter? I don't make anyone buy anything, and if they buy it, maybe it will have more value to them.

Scott Duncan

I have been living on MY currency. Want to do business with ME? You pay me in MY currency, which I sell at a VERY reasonable rate.

Your quandary isn't how to live without Fiat Currency. It's that you have no VALUE.

James Trent Goodbaudy

You use your OWN currency? So, to do business with you, you are paid in your currency, which you say you "sell" at a very reasonable rate? How would someone like me obtain your currency? You would sell it to me at a reasonable rate? For what? Money? Have you heard of these maxims Scott?

"Let every one employ himself in what he knows." "He at whose risk a thing is done, should receive the profits arising from it."

And finally on 'value': Value in the most basic sense can be referred to as "Real Value" or "Actual Value." This is the measure of worth that is based purely on the utility derived from the consumption of a product or service. Utility derived value allows products or services to be measured on outcome instead of demand or supply theories that have the inherent ability to be manipulated. Illustration: The real value of a book sold to a student who pays $50.00 at the cash register for the text and who earns no additional income from reading the book is essentially zero. However; the real value of the same text purchased in a thrift shop at a price of $0.25 and provides the reader with an insight that allows him or her to earn $100,000.00 in additional income is $100,000.00 or the extended lifetime value earned by the consumer. This is value calculated by actual measurements of ROI instead of production input and or demand vs. supply. No single unit has a fixed value. Value is intrinsically related to the worth derived by the consumer. [Burke(2005)].

Scott Duncan

Ok, let's put this in a context you have seen.

CURRENCY EXCHANGES (That's all BANKS are)

You do not buy ANYTHING except CURRENCY with the Fiat Currency, (which is immediately sent to accounts:PAYABLE in Roguesupport Inc. to discharge external debts or to act as INVESTED CAPITOL).

Now that you have BOUGHT the currency, you can pay me.

I get paid up front.

Roguesupport Inc. and Human Machines Inc. will gladly sell you some.

You do this everytime you go to a Fairground and buy tickets for the rides. You are doing EXACTLY the same thing.

It's ALL ACCOUNTING. NOTHING ELSE.

Scott Duncan

You aren't even qualified to use my services.

People should get remuneration for their service/value. I just don't want to attach a tender for law to my jurisdiction. So I only accept MY currency.

I think you miss the EXCHANGE part if it... and don't EVER imply that I charge money for information again.

EVER.

If you need communications networks, Enterprise networks, or just need a computer to do shit for you... That's what I do. Above all I am a COMPUTER SCIENTIST. That has value. You must pay for it in the currency I DECIDE. Don't like it, hire my *cough* Competition.

...but I don't "sell" knowledge. As you can see, I don't even tolerate the vague inference that I may do such a thing.

James Trent Goodbaudy

Ditto ... except I don't do hardware. The people who built the workstations are the ones who couldn't qualify as programmers. And if you have EVER charged a client for tech support you just lied to me (even if it is in 'scrip')... you have sold knowledge. Why are you the only one allowed to?

Scott Duncan

Seriously, you have NO idea how much your ignorance offends me right now. To make it VERY clear...I DO NOT CHARGE MONEY FOR INFORMATION.

I DO NOT CHARGE FOR THE TIME I SPEND IMPARTING SUCH INFORMATION.

I DO NOT CHARGE MONEY FOR KNOWLEDGE AND WILL NOT TOLERATE DECLARATIONS/INFERENCES TO THE CONTRARY! NOT because I'm "repressing your opinion", but because it is a blatant lie.

If you know of ANYBODY who claims I charged money for information, bring him/her to me and I will, on video, bash their skull into jelly with an aluminium bat that I keep for just such a purpose.

In case you are too stupid to get the point of this post: I DO NOT charge money for ANY information. EVER. At no time in HISTORY, have I charged money for information. EVER

Saying otherwise is a deliberate attempt to harm me personally...and if you want to make this personal...

James Trent Goodbaudy

I am not getting into a pissing contest with you right now, but unless you can show how you can survive without fiat currency currently (where do you spend your Scottie-bucks???), you are sounding rather hypocritical.

James Trent Goodbaudy

A hooker trades her body for something of value that she needs to survive. Are you implying that someone that sells a book did not spend time writing it? Are you implying that my time should be free time?

Scott Duncan

I just showed you how to survive without Fiat currency. Create a person. That person acts as currency exchange.

YOU only accept currency that is NOT fiat currency. If people want your servies/value, they have to BUY YOUR CURRENCY.

The reason YOU can't do that was mentioned earlier. YOU HAVE NO VALUE.

Information is NOT a commodity, it's a right. Selling information is fraud. Your "time" is NOT valuable in commerce. It just isn't, because you have nothing that anyone wants. That's why what I showed you went over your head.

Scott Duncan

You are either too stupid, or you are deliberately lying about what I just said.

Even Derek Moran, gets it... and that takes work.

Ok, I won't abide this. You don't get to try to justify your ethically bankrupt position by implying I am a hypocrite...by making shit up. That is hostile intent. You will feel a tingling sensation, followed by... BANNED.

Derek Moran

Scott, this is the second-time you've mentioned this lately- " Create a person."

..can we change the focus on how to go about doing this most effectively, i think this is something Trent would be interested in too

Scott Duncan

Offer the information for free...AND a book, that's fine.

but you don't get to say "my time is valuable" when you are simply parroting information. That has no value, and is ethically bankrupt. They pay money for something with no value. He doesn't MAKE anything, or DO anything of value.

"I'll give you the answer if you give me money" is ethically indefensible. It's accurate information (mostly) but has NO answers. If it did, why would he be here?

Scott Duncan

We are typing furiously, and putting the framework for the tender for law. I may just publish an e-book reader version of Trent's book :D

...for informational, educational, research, news and criticism purposes, of course!. No commerce expected and/or implied! ;)

Scott Duncan

Ok.. step by step:

1: Kill your PERSON. Stop contributing VALUE to it. Do not permit the government to attach a name to a man/woman that is derived from a public document.

2: Incorporate or use an existing corporation.

3: Charter the corporation to provide private currency for shareholders.

4: Sell the currency.

5: Profit.

Carl Dunne

I decided to have a little look at Trent after this thread as i'd only heard of him up until this thread but never bothered checking him out so i thought it only fair to see what he has to say. As a rule i decided when i started all this to take internet gurus with a pinch of salt and learn law from law books which seems a foreign concept to some people. When i joined the Tender i didn't know what i was joining or who Scott was and thought it was just another discussion forum and at first didn't see the value here until the reality sunk in that i have a lot to learn and stayed in shut the fuck up mode as i read up on the various topics. There is a major difference i now know between Scott and any of these freemen gurus, when you accept Trent or any of them tbh you are only learning what you will learn yourself should you open a book or two because that's where they learned all this it's not hidden in a special place only Trent knows about so why would you pay him to do the work for you or do you think he is more intelligent than you. I know he is not smarter than me simply better read and further along the path this thread clearly proves me right on that. What Scott teaches is whats hidden between the lines from a perspective none of the others could possibly have and in a more precise and logical way and asks for nothing but your time which you were going to waste looking for the magic words anyways. The fact the rest make you pay and are less accesable than Scott should be a dead giveaway that there is a MAJOR difference to what is going on here than anywhere else. I like Dean Clifford i listened to allot of his stuff at the beginning and think he is brilliant but at the end of the day when shit hit the fan for him where did he come ?. These freetard gurus are nothing more than what you all had the potential to be if you took your heads out of your asses and do your own work. If you're going to pay for their books why not take the novel approach of buying the book they read and forming your own judgement's and stop being lazy. Apparently there will be a nice piece to put Scott Duncan in his place on Trents site tommorow perhaps we should have an educational discussion of his book all over the web at the same time just for the fun of it. Lastly if you're listening to freetard shit pick one or the other because all you are doing is mixing methods and are going to cause yourself more hassle in the long run through your own self inflicted confusion.

Derek Moran

Scott Duncan: I just showed you how to survive without Fiat currency. Create a person. That person acts as currency exchange.

YOU only accept currency that is NOT fiat currency. If people want your servies/value, they have to BUY YOUR CURRENCY.

Pete Daoust

ADMINISTRATION SYNONYMOUS :D

agency authority control government legislation organization policy rule application charge

command conduct conducting direction dispensation disposition distribution enforcement execution governing

guidance handling jurisdiction order oversight performance power provision regulation running

strategy superintendence supervision surveillance administering directing overseeing

:D