Derek Hill

Jun 08, 2013 8:52 PM
for liening, can you lien your child? Do you need to be in custody of the BC?


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 08, 2013 9:03 PM
If you have a recorded UCC-1 lien you can add children's BC's to it via UCC-3 Addendum. Add cars, boats, cycles, kids......


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Derek Hill

Jun 08, 2013 9:04 PM
ppsa not ucc.


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Derek Hill

Jun 08, 2013 9:08 PM
and for you to do this will it affect any previous liens?


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 08, 2013 9:58 PM
I'm not familiar with ppsa.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 08, 2013 11:08 PM
it is Canada's UCC equivalent or close too it it is the lien process.


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 08, 2013 11:09 PM
aaahhh, ok


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 08, 2013 11:11 PM
we have two here in Nazi vile


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Phillip Prater

Jun 09, 2013 12:35 AM
Outcast Mantard Frisbey, we have TWO WHAT?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 09, 2013 12:48 AM
lien process one is state level and one is federal?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 09, 2013 12:51 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/lien-theory-states


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 09, 2013 12:51 AM
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Understanding-a-Federal-Tax-Lien


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 09, 2013 12:52 AM
don't ever question me. and my authatha lol


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Cory Black

Jun 14, 2013 8:38 PM
The JP is already the administrator for the NAME that was created in the public interest. Accept their oath of office (the public not the private) and tell them they are in fact the public trustee for the name. I have never had a justice rebut that claim. answer for them when they remain silent.


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 10:01 PM
Any JP? Sorry if my question seems foolish, but I just can not comprehend the BC issue at all! And I have discussed it in PM's with some people here ad nauseum!


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 14, 2013 10:03 PM
From what I comprehend, all public officials are trustees of the bankruptcy.


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Cory Black

Jun 14, 2013 11:39 PM
The BC is the receit for your security, which is the registration of a live birth. The gov is the trustee of that doc. The BC is not only a receit of the security but an assigned name that allows the human to function as a corporation in this commercial system. You only have the right of use for the name! It was "given" to you! The fraud is to shift liability from the legal title owner to the beneficiary and equitable title owner of the name. Know who you Are!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 14, 2013 11:40 PM
The bc is surety.


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:44 PM
That makes absolutely zero sense to me. I am aware that it is, in fact, a Security Instrument. Where you lose me (and where everyone has lost me) is why does the gov go through all the trouble to do this? And if I decide to use the NAME, aren't there strings attached? Isn't it much simpler to not get involved with the whole FRAUD going on here?


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Derek Moran

Jun 14, 2013 11:48 PM
You were mailed the Birth Certificate by MISTAKE. In the meantime, you are the Trustee of it until it is sorted out. You were meant to get a RECEIVERS Certificate.


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:49 PM
It doesn't sound logical that they have made hundreds of millions of mistakes......


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Derek Moran

Jun 14, 2013 11:50 PM
..depending on what side of the field you're standing on, it would make perfect sense


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:51 PM
What field?


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:51 PM
I really do not understand this theory.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 14, 2013 11:52 PM
The reason is who controls the assets of the surety and who assumes liability for the person. I have a person. I am not the person. The presumptions of that we by consent or is where they conjoin us to the person. The bc is a valuable instrument and placed into a trust. the corporation you own stock in covers you from liability.


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Derek Moran

Jun 14, 2013 11:54 PM
Scott covered this in another post: "If the U.S. military delivers to you a NUKE by the U.S. POST Office by mistake, you are still the TRUSTEE of it.....until it is corrected"


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:54 PM
I understand it is a valuable instrument. But what does it have to do with me?


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:55 PM
yes Derek, I read that and understand it. But I do not have a BC. Maybe it is somewhere else where there is a BC, but I dont have it


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 14, 2013 11:57 PM
what is your document called?


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:57 PM
I literally have no idea. I have never seen it.


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Derek Moran

Jun 14, 2013 11:59 PM
textbook video on how to use the BC in court: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNhsRjsw4Yc


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Chris Evan

Jun 14, 2013 11:59 PM
Frisbey, I am not playing word games....This makes zero sense to me. So someone created a document that gives me a person...for what reason? And this document was mailed to me by mistake and it is like a nuke?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:00 AM
to conjoin you the man too the person


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:00 AM
So.....if I don't use that person, there would be no conjoining anyway, yes?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:02 AM
no they consider it joined you have to correct this presumptions.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:03 AM
ok....so if/when I correct their presumptions, what does the BC have to do with me and why should I spend any energy on it?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:05 AM
Do you want control of you legal capacity?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:06 AM
If you don't have control they do.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:07 AM
Dude....it sounds like complete fraud to me. Why would I participate in it? The legal/equity capacity, or in other words, the creation of a trust was not done with my consent. I want full lawful control of everything that has to do with me. They can control whatever they want, but no piece of paper that I have nothing to with implies they can control me.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:07 AM
it is


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:07 AM
oh but you have by consent


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:07 AM
Where, when, and how?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:09 AM
do you have a drivers license?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:09 AM
Nope


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:16 AM
look in the files tab at presumptions and see if you fit any?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:17 AM
I watched the video and I am still clueless.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:17 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjho56kkxcdoz53/Presumptions%20of%20At%20Law.pdf?fb=1 This one?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:19 AM
do you have a state ID?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:21 AM
All right...here is my issue with this. I have in the past contracted with these criminals and had DL's and SSN etc. I NO LONGER USE it...or I should say that there are still a couple ties to me, but not many and way less than there used to be. But why am I subject to PRESUMPTIONS? How about this....FUCK OFF! What am I supposed to do, guess what they think? No, this is dumb and I don't want to play!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:22 AM
your still conjoined legally


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:23 AM
I no longer operate legally


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:23 AM
I just do not understand this and I am getting really frustrated. This makes no logical sense


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:23 AM
but this does not take you out of there jurisdiction


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:24 AM
you must take action to make this so


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:24 AM
What action?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:26 AM
NOTICE OF MISTAKE ends this and separates you from the legal fiction


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:27 AM
Ok, I comprehend the NOM.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:28 AM
right now they consider you their property


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:29 AM
because they filled out a piece of paper that I have never seen?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:29 AM
yes


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:29 AM
nice trick they pulled was it not


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:30 AM
of course it was, but I do not see how I am bound in a contract that they and you are claiming me to be bound by if I not only didn't sign it, but HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN IT


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:32 AM
That is why they are called presumptions


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:33 AM
So, for some reason, I am bound to a contract because someone I have never met, thinks I am a person that is surety for a Security Instrument that I have never seen, thereby making me property? I am not really following this


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:34 AM
oh you have it correct


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:35 AM
did you apply for a drivers license? then you asked them to be your nanny


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:35 AM
Chris Schulte, Is there a BC that was created for you ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:36 AM
Allegedly, I think there was Pierre


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:36 AM
So, if I have it correct, then that is complete garbage and there is no proof and/or paper trail that it has anything to do with me


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:37 AM
Why would Chris leave his 140 million dollar bond out in the open for us to salvage it.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:37 AM
shows incompetency


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:37 AM
Because the $140 million is fake and obtained through fraud and I want nothing to do with it


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:38 AM
They can fight over imaginary shit all they want, I DONT CARE


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:38 AM
oh no it is not fake at all


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:39 AM
Oh really....do tell....


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:39 AM
Money =debt this does not make it fake


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
Exactly, so debt was obtained through the use of my alleged BC. I still have no evidence this effects me!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
Ok Chris Schulte, stay with me here...


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
Dude, I am trying


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
they do


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
So what? Why should I care what they think?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:40 AM
Do you k wow where this BC should be at this moment ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:41 AM
The one that has a name similar to mine? i would guess at the place where THEY keep all these documents....I dunno


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:41 AM
well you don't unless you want to be a slave to them?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:42 AM
How does that make me a slave?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:42 AM
Ok, do you think you could find out where that place should be ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:42 AM
I have never seen the document, nevermind consented to it! How am I a slave to the BC?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:42 AM
if you don't challenged them your their property


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:43 AM
I am pretty sure it is in Boston.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:43 AM
You state that, but where is the proof and or paper trail?


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 15, 2013 12:43 AM
When you fill the shoes of the person


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:44 AM
My point exactly Bill. So, if I choose not to fill those shoes, why should I care?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:45 AM
because the consider you filling them already even if you don't see it that way what matter is how they view it


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Jun 15, 2013 12:45 AM
Everyone seems to have their panties in a ruffle over this BC thing and I am asking why we just don't fill the shoes? Why all this rigamaroll?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:45 AM
OK..Chris Schulte, find out where this piece of paper that seems to concern you is, go there, and ask them what this is ALL ABOUT


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:45 AM
LOL....


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:45 AM
Why is their view more powerful than mine?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:46 AM
Good idea Pierre!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 12:46 AM
in court it matters


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Jun 15, 2013 12:46 AM
Why would I go there?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:46 AM
Chris Schulte, seriously, just do that, like a INNOCENT man who needs directions :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:47 AM
Because there is something there that MIGHT have something to do with you


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:47 AM
I def will! I NEED answers to this because there is sooooo much inconsistency out there about this document


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Jun 15, 2013 12:47 AM
mhmmm...like what?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:49 AM
Lets figure this out: You enter there place... YOU: Hi sir/madam, apparently there is a piece of paper here that concerns ME. YOU: Some folks call this a birth certificate. YOU: Please, Madame/Sir, could you EXPLAIN me in DETAILS what's this all about? YOU: Thanks


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:50 AM
:-)


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:51 AM
Thanks for Everything Sir/Madam, could you please put in writing EVERYTHING you've just explained me, and specify that you told me EVERYTHING


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:51 AM
http://www.cityofboston.gov/registry/


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Jun 15, 2013 12:51 AM
^ That is a great idea Mr Daoust


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:52 AM
Go there buddy and dig the fucking thing :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:53 AM
And come back here to tell us :D


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Jun 15, 2013 12:53 AM
Yeah bud! Def


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:55 AM
Mr. Daoust can have some TERRIFYING great ideas sometimes :D


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Jun 15, 2013 12:55 AM
:-D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:55 AM
I'll do the same exact thing on my side Chris Schulte, and come back here to tell you !


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:55 AM
k


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:57 AM
Since I have mine, which I ordered a few months ago, and have a NAME of the PERSON who sent it to me, I will do this registered mail, and will see what response I will get.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:58 AM
Do you have the actual BC or do you have a certified copy of the BC


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:58 AM
Is that what you, English people, call DUE DILLIGENCE ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 12:58 AM
yes, it is


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 12:59 AM
I have a CERTIFIED copy, that I have made 20 certified copies of the certified copy :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:02 AM
I won't be able to get one...here is a quote from their requirements A photocopy of your Identification (Driver�s License, State ID, Passport). ummmm.......No, I don't use those!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:05 AM
Chris Schulte, forget about that....you don't WANT one, you want to know 1). Whos created it 2). Its purpose 3). Does it have ANYTHING to do with YOU 4). Is it a SECURITY 5). If yes, WHY 6). Do you have any OBLIGATIONS over it.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:06 AM
You ONLY want to know EVERYTHING about that thing,


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:07 AM
Do you have a life birth registration ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:07 AM
I wasn't planning on getting one, just making the point that I can't!


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:07 AM
I have no idea. I have heard of that, but that is another document I have never seen


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:08 AM
That is the FIRST doccument that was produced when you got out of your mother......


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:08 AM
Yea, I have heard that. I have never seen MINE though


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:09 AM
You should have this thing, and use it as IDENTIFICATION, when someone ask for one....no big deal...!!!


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:09 AM
Ok. how?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:10 AM
It should be very close to the BC :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:10 AM
Call ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:15 AM
All I have to say is this is blatent FRAUD!


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 15, 2013 1:16 AM
ROLB=Record Of Live Birth~~~~~COLB=Certificate Of Live Birth That's the first doc, here on the US. One of those is sent in to get the BC.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:17 AM
maybe ! you'll find out .... I'm I FREE or I'm I NOT FREE :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:18 AM
Can I be ME, or do I have to be something else ? :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:18 AM
Fun questions !


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:18 AM
The anticipation is killing me!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:19 AM
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 15, 2013 1:19 AM
It seems it's ALL fraud, Chris. Remember Alice in Wonderland? Hahahahaha


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:20 AM
And HOW do you know it for sure ? ........INVESTIGATE !!


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:20 AM
Yeah, I know. I peeked 2.5 years ago and now look where I am. Alone on a Friday night debating Birth Certificates on TFL! LMAO


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:20 AM
Which has the man's first step on it via foot print. You stepped on to the citizenSHIP.


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 15, 2013 1:20 AM
Now you'll have to wait 'till Monday. Any of those fuckers work on a weekend?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:20 AM
Was I of the age of majority?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:21 AM
Prob Tues...I work outside and Tues looks to be a washout


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:22 AM
No offense guys, but I didn't know the rabbit hole was gonna take so much time and energy. ;-)


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:24 AM
No your parents where when this happened. Your mother singed it. Giving you away.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:26 AM
Frisbey, it is a fraudulent contract at best. I don't care what THEY think. I have no interest in getting wrapped up in it. I was curious why you guys do...


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:27 AM
With my surety in a corp is my access to my credit. To discharge my debt.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:28 AM
What contract ? :/


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:28 AM
Well, great, but I have no interest in that


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:29 AM
Interest in what ?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:29 AM
It removes my surety from their bank deposit.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:29 AM
Frisbey is claiming my baby foot went on a piece of paper, now I am property. I am saying if that is the claim to a contract with me, it is fraud at best


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:29 AM
Interest in using the BC to discharge debt


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:29 AM
yes


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:31 AM
Fuck the baby foot....never mind this idiot Chris Schulte.....do what you have to do....and when you will have ALL the info you need, you will be able to make decisions....


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:31 AM
LOL....can you see him yet? or still no?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:32 AM
nope....I can't, too small fuse in my electric circuit :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:32 AM
LMAO!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:33 AM
I am the MASTER of PIERRE DAOUST, and no one, as of now, rebutted it. :D


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:36 AM
I have mine and it shows my foot print my mom had a copy made I want to photo copy it and post it here.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:39 AM
You stay away from doing business with them, and when they show up to offer you a TENDER FOR LAW, you say, NO THANKS. You have the right to CONTRACT, and/or NOT to CONTRACT. No one can force you to contract.....they can try, but if you STAND your ground, they will eventually to go away.....This BC is NOT dangerous, it can even be helpful in some circumstance.....it has been created to SERVE ME, the MASTER.....unless they DARE to say something else :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:40 AM
Yes, that is what I thought. Now why do some people lien them?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:41 AM
You don't even have to use their BANK NOTES, unless they can prove you use them, how can they know ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:41 AM
In the US, we have a remedy. I think it is 12 USC 411 Bildo Schmildo?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:43 AM
Because our money says "This Note is legal tender for all debts public and private". So if you claim you are using it lawfully and not legally, there is no jurisdiction.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:43 AM
At least that is how I have comprehende it


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:44 AM
You DON'T ever claim nothing :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:45 AM
Well, yes...poor choice of wording.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 1:48 AM
By http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vEj4Tq1wsYg


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:52 AM
What happen when you lien a HOUSE ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:53 AM
I don't know


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:53 AM
Usually NOTHING, unless the house gets sold


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:54 AM
If you lien the BC, everything STOPS....no one can sell this BC, so I would say that if this BC gets liened, NOTHING will happen until the end :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 1:55 AM
Well, yes! Of course


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:58 AM
OK, let say MY BC is liened, and I get ARRESTED, who are they arresting ?, the PERSON of course, and who is suppose to pay for this arrestation ?, the freaking PERSON I guess, through the BC, which is a fucking check....so now, what the heck they will do if this BC is liened ?....it surely will get messy :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 1:59 AM
Now, I'm not sure what else could I add, maybe Scott could follow up with this.....just in case I may pull shit out of my ass :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:03 AM
Frisbey, I watched that video. You are having some tunnel vision. Think outside the box. FRN;s are accepted everywhere and lawful money is not. One would HAVE to use FRN's out of necessity to EAT! There is no additional jurisdiction out of necessity. Plus, one would have to be a citizen of the United States to even be subject anyhow. Do you have evidence that I am a US Citizen?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 2:06 AM
the corp which I have shear has worth and has a bank account which writes checks or promissory notes.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:11 AM
What corp do you have a shear in Frisbey?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:13 AM
Do you have evidence that I use FRN's out of necessity to EAT ? :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:13 AM
Exactly!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 15, 2013 2:13 AM
I have 100% shear in H.I.V.E CORP.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:13 AM
Me, I usualy use my mouth :D


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:19 AM
Haha Chris if you decide to go I think this is the address: 150 Mount Vernon St., 1 st Fl. Dorchester, MA 02125-3105 Main Telephone: (617) 740-2600


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:19 AM
I guess it's called the Registry of Vital Records.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:20 AM
I have decided and I am doing it! I can't not find out! I have questions, they are required to give me answers. Pierre is correct!


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:21 AM
Pierre is always right..!!! PPPOOUUUHHHAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:23 AM
Is that French for something?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:24 AM
Yes...sorry, it means LOL or LNFA or LMAF or something like that :/


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:26 AM
Mathew Morrill...are you sure its not here??? Registry Division 1 City Hall Square, Rm 213 Boston, MA 02201-2006


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:27 AM
Not sure, check this link out, http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/gov/departments/dph/programs/health-stats/vitals/obtaining-certified-copies-of-vital-records.html


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:27 AM
LMAO....their website says "Pre-1870 records requiring research will take additional time." Oh really? Did something happen around then that would effect the records?


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:28 AM
Or maybe that is for something different, the one I posted.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:28 AM
Just call all these places, and say: Hey, I've heard that there is a birth certificate somewhere concerning ME, I need a meeting with you guys.....<


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:29 AM
That way, you may avoid these inconscient robots that works there....


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:30 AM
You know those who makes 60k a year knowing NOTHING ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:33 AM
I asked one question to one of those idiots, she gave me an answer, I asked, are you sure at 100% of this answer ?, she said no, at about 70% :/, I said, can you transfer me to someone that might have a 100% answer?, she said no. :/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:34 AM
She said she will dig for the exact answer and will call me back :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:35 AM
Guess what ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:35 AM
never heard from her?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:35 AM
WOW, you are perspicace !


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:36 AM
You want to know what was the question ? :D


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:36 AM
Chris were you born in Boston? I was not so I don't think me going to the town hall in Boston would help me, that's where my confusion is. You guys got me wanting to go down there to.


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:36 AM
yup


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:36 AM
I was born in Beth Israel Hospital Boston


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:37 AM
^ Allegedly


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:37 AM
The question was: Dear Madame, can you explaine me what is the SURETY/SECURITY of MY person ?


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:39 AM
Yeah then you will probably have luck going to the Boston town hall. I went right to the Mass.gov website and searched "Birth Certificate". It then sent me to The Registry of Vital Records. But maybe the town hall in my town has something also?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:39 AM
But I kept digging and digging and finally received an answer....would you be curious enough to know the answer ? :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:39 AM
Do I seem curious?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:39 AM
LOL...


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:39 AM
Where were you born? Worcester?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:40 AM
The answer: WE CAN NOT GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICES


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:40 AM
:/


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:40 AM
hmmmmm


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:40 AM
Southbridge Ma, Harrington hospital.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:40 AM
sO, THE surety/security of the person has to do with something LEGAL :D


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:41 AM
Legal advice eh, kinda strange they jumped right to that for an answer


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:41 AM
and something LEGAL has to do with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$omething that implies MONEY ? :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:41 AM
Southbridge Town Hall may have it. Peabody used to have a hospital (we don't anymore), but they record births in the city


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:42 AM
:-/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:42 AM
Hey guys, do you get what I'm saying here :/


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:43 AM
No, continue.....


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:45 AM
When do we need LEGAL advices ?


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:47 AM
I dunno


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Mathew Morrill

Jun 15, 2013 2:48 AM
When we are being CHARGED with something?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:48 AM
I bet you that EVERYTIME we need these LEGAL ADVICES, money has something to do in the picture... :D


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Chris Evan

Jun 15, 2013 2:49 AM
Well, yes of course


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:51 AM
The PERSON / BC has a surety attached to it and can be monetized......and we have the RIGHT to this surety/security, we are NOT the surety/security.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:52 AM
We are the beneficiary of that thing, which is not a bad thing and it's not our fault :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:57 AM
Hey Chris Schulte, imagine this is you and me discovering the BC :D https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200851621366007&set=vb.1628373527&type=2&theater


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:57 AM
The rubber band IS the BC :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 15, 2013 2:59 AM
And to come back to earth, watch this after :/ Money makes the world go around and the Fed is playing a dangerous game with it. You won't learn about it from the blow dried air heads on MSNBC or Fox Business. Understand the strange things the Fed is doing behind the scenes. Video: http://www.realecontv.com/page/1503.html


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Derek Moran

Aug 10, 2013 12:41 AM
Kirsten Carlstrom


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 12:38 PM
Thanks Derek Moran, I'm a little lost with this....I'll keep reading it over until something clicks. Can anyone suggest a video or some more reading that may assist me in getting a better handle on this information?


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:20 PM
something just clicked...thank god-


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August le Blanc

Aug 10, 2013 1:21 PM
Have you watched the required viewing, Money as Debt III?


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:21 PM
Yes I have ~


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August le Blanc

Aug 10, 2013 1:22 PM
It all ties together, eventually.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:24 PM
Kirsten Carlstrom....thank God ? :/ .....tell us what just clicked in and how it did...


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:26 PM
I have a question first, how is it that I or the legal person became surety?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:27 PM
Kirsten Carlstrom....thank God ? .....tell us what just clicked in and how it did...


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:27 PM
If I'm in possession of the bc and I am the vital component of the bc, how did I become surety?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:28 PM
Because you've chose it... :D


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:28 PM
Well....the 14th Amendment. But there is waaaaaaay more to it than that.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:29 PM
For all I remember, everytime I became surety for PIERRE DAOUST was because I've chose it that way, of course, by ignorance.....


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:31 PM
I still do not understand how they own legal title.


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:32 PM
Do I want them to hold legal title, does that benefit me in any way?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:33 PM
They've created it....Creator of a thing = Owner of a thing


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:33 PM
If they hold legal title then does that automatically make them surety?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:33 PM
YES... :D


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:34 PM
Legal title to what? Legal Title is evidence that a TRUST has been commisioned. It would mean that someone else is holding the EQUITABLE title!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:34 PM
Unless you choose to be surety, they won't bother if you do so


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:37 PM
What agencies in the US must I notify that I'm beneficiary? Along with removing any contracts I may have entered into without knowing the implications of those contracts, like the drivers license?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:37 PM
A PERSON has been created. By the Government With surety attached to it, which happen to be the Government What an EVENT !!!!...wwwwooooooo!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:40 PM
Now, I don't have to notify no one, If a PERSON contact "ME", I have to make a decision if I use "ME" to respond, or the PERSON I have in my pocket....if NO PERSON is contacting "ME", and/or the PERSON NAMED PIERRE DAOUST, than WHY should I contact anyone ???


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:42 PM
Fuck them, you don't have to contact them.....if they contact you, than you respond.....fuck it, ....that's how I see this, and don't sign ANYTHING without fully UNDERSTANDING what the fuck you are doing....


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:43 PM
Fuck, I just won a free cruise to the bahamas again :/


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:43 PM
Am I both beneficiary and executor of the bc person?


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:43 PM
Technically, Pete is correct...but in the US, you should let them know that you will no longer be voting. And if you have any oaths on file, you will want to rescind them. You may want to lien the NAME too....


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August le Blanc

Aug 10, 2013 1:44 PM
What is your endgame or goal? Kirsten Carlstrom


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:46 PM
Chris Schulte, I don't vote, I just don't, they must know that I am sure :D


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Aug 10, 2013 1:46 PM
Pete, the only difference between CANADA and the US is the 14th Amendment!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:46 PM
and George Bush :D


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Aug 10, 2013 1:47 PM
Yeah, but in the US, if you registered, you are considered SURETY. You have to remove your consent from voting down here, and make sure you have no pledges or oaths (most wouldn't)


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:48 PM
Oh, they can CONSIDER what the fuck they want.....I have a NOTICE OF MISTAKE ready for ANYTHING they may consider, in both French and English :D


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ZJ Free

Aug 10, 2013 1:49 PM
Yep, Me too...!!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:49 PM
Why don't we just send a letter to Wal-Mart, telling them to not consider that we work for them :D


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:49 PM
^ yes..Kirsten Carlstrom, the NoM would also correct anything you DON'T do!


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ZJ Free

Aug 10, 2013 1:49 PM
Presumption is nothing more than an opinion...!!


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:50 PM
Very true. But a COURTESY goes a long way!


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 1:50 PM
Jason, I have a warrant out for my arrest for an expired drivers license. I was forced under duress to sign a citation, two days after I signed I certified mailed and had delivered an affidavit of non corporate status and rescind my signature on the citation/contract but a warrant was issued anyways. 3 deputies came to my home to arrest me, damaged my door and scared the hell out of everyone in my home. I didn't admit to being the "PERSON" and after several hours the deputies finally left. They've parked outside of my home for months and spoken to several of my neighbors asking them to call them when I leave my home so they can arrest me.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:51 PM
I was forced under duress to sign a citation: Fuck do I hate these lies :/


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 1:52 PM
WOW!!! Notice of Mistake! They want to arrest KIRSTEN CARLSTROM, not you. Let them know!


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August le Blanc

Aug 10, 2013 1:52 PM
O. K. good, first things first. A practical matter.


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ZJ Free

Aug 10, 2013 1:53 PM
"Under Duress" under your autograph voids the contract. It need not be rescinded, it's already void.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:54 PM
I am 47, and NO ONE ever forces me to sign ANYTHING, you are freaking me out with this under duress shit.....


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Scott Duncan

Aug 10, 2013 1:55 PM
Just PRINT "VOID" and say it's your signature :P


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:57 PM
Well...you may receive a few hits with batons if you do this, unles you live outside Windsor, ON. :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 1:58 PM
I nice solid baton swing right on the left side of the nose...BANG !!!....


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Lei Gh

Aug 10, 2013 2:02 PM
It does happen, Pierre. :(


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:03 PM
I know :D


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 2:08 PM
Is it true that the bc has a bond attached to it? If that is so and a bond is a certificate or evidence of a debt, than what exactly is the debt and what is securing that bond and why is it attached to the bc?


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 2:11 PM
Is the debt the US bankruptcy and I'm being used to secure the debt?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:12 PM
I'm I off topic here now ?.....fuck, sorry guys :(


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:13 PM
Let me erase that stupid bullshit.... :)


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:14 PM
Here we are....what was the subject again ? :)


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 2:15 PM
yes


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:15 PM
I think I'll buy a bullshit detector software :D


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Pete Daoust

Aug 10, 2013 2:16 PM
No, I won't buy that, my laptop will shut down every second phrase I will write :(


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 5:23 PM
Kirsten, the BC (Legal Person) that says KIRSTEN CARLSTROM on it IS Surety for the debt. It is also a registered voter! It is a costume. If you put it on, you are subject to the rules. If you don't wear it, (or place a lien on it and wear it (as you are the only one who has given it value)), there is no jurisdiction! So yes, If you wear the costume and accept the SURETY, your labor is security for the debt.


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 10, 2013 5:26 PM
Which debt, the US bankruptcy and/or and code/statues I violate if I'm acting in that capacity or both?


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 5:26 PM
ALL of it!


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 5:27 PM
Unless of course, you are not acting as the SURETY!


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Aug 10, 2013 6:56 PM
Derek, its funny that you are bringing these old threads back to life... I was just thinking to read them again these past few days. :D


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Scott Duncan

Aug 10, 2013 7:27 PM
You've been focused on the HateFuck DVD thread, haven't you? :P


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Aug 10, 2013 10:08 PM
Haha... unfortunately no. Been moving and working...


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Beverly Berta Braakschmack

Aug 10, 2013 10:10 PM
So essentially, to CLAIM your beneficial interest with this SECURITY CERTIFICATE, you must put forth a trust indenture directed at (now) Diane Finley as fiduciary trustee for that ACCOUNT?


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Derek Moran

Aug 10, 2013 11:22 PM
Kirsten Carlstrom- here's a question you should ask Scott, because, well, he does like boobies and you DO have them: "Who's the equivalent of your RECEIVER GENERAL in Canada, here in the united states of America?"


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Chris Evan

Aug 10, 2013 11:58 PM
I think its Timothy Geithner


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 11, 2013 12:01 AM
what is his /her title Chris?


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Chris Evan

Aug 11, 2013 12:12 AM
http://www.treasury.gov/about/Pages/Secretary.aspx Actually, I guess he is out and this is the new guy


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 11, 2013 12:27 AM
Well Derek ~ it's good to know the size of my breasts carry favor. Although, I thought just being one of Scott's cum-bunnies was sufficient.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 11, 2013 12:32 AM
The Birth certificate is confirmed evidence of slave trade, in a pirate commercial court. It naturally makes judges uncomfortable. When I deal with the courts, I come off from the jump with an oppt curtesy notice, which specifically incorporates a statement of reliance on unrebuted UCC facts in commerce that all public offices are vacant, and that this is exactly what they, as private contractors are engaged in, human trafficking of people, presumed to have no rights, right from the jump, knowingly and intentionally with culpability deprived of rights treated as fictions devoid of rights, and notice that I dont consent to being induced into counterfeiting or forgery, or contributing to their criminal corporate schemes and bankrupt social insurance programs in their lawless monopoly money pyramid scheme.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 11, 2013 12:34 AM
Sorry, Ive been listening tu pac


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Chris Evan

Aug 11, 2013 12:39 AM
OPPT?


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Neil Rowe

Aug 11, 2013 12:40 AM
ONE PEOPLES PUBLIC TRUST, Swiss Lawyers who put together a forclosure notice on private corperate governments masqurading as public institutions.


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Aug 11, 2013 12:44 AM
CAUSE NUMBER 13-DCV-205913 IN THE INTEREST OF � IN THE ALLEGED 328th Jaydin Joseph Louis Reddo � DISTRICT COURT A Child of JOSEPH LOUIS REDDO, Estate � OF FORT BEND COUNTY, TEXAS I COURTESY NOTICE BY PAUL NEIL ROWE TO ALLEGED JUDICIAL OFFICER OF ALLEGED COURT II TERMS AND CONDITIONS A. Parties B. Applicability C. Respondent�s Responsibilities D. Sufficient Verified Response E. Method of Rejection F. Method of Acceptance G. Terms of Acceptance III FEE SCHEDUAL A Changes to Terms and Conditions IV BACKGROUND AND FULL DISCLOSURE V CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE VI ATTESTED VERIFICATION I Courtesy Notice To Alleged Judicial Officer Of Alleged Court Respondent (private details): Walter B Williams c/o alleged 328th District Court Office: Fort Bend County Justice Center 1422 Eugene Heimann Circle Richmond, Texas State [77469] Proponent (private details): Paul Neil Rowe c/o Mailing Address 6714 Springcrest Drive Richmond, Texas State [77479] Date: Thursday the first of August, Two Thousand Thirteen Re: Unlimited personal liability arising from foreclosure of all banks, all corporate governments and all other corporations by UCC filings of the One People�s Public Trust. (OPPT); *One People defined in UCC# 2012079290 Service: Registered Mail Number ______________________ DULY VERIFIED DECLARATION OF FACTS: With regard to operating or perpetuating any and all private money systems, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems and any and all SLAVERY AND CHILD TRAFFICKING SYSTEMS of and against the One People* by Walter B Williams, with address of 1422 Eugene Heimann Circle, Richmond, Texas State [77469], hereafter �Respondent�. I am the sole lawful and legal REGISTERED owner, custodian, and trustee of my BE'ing, any and all creations therefrom, and property thereof, UCC Doc. File No.'s 2012127810, 2012127854, 2012127907, 2012127914, restated and incorporated here by reference as if set forth in full, original notice of DECLARATION OF FACTS by public registration made and given by the One People's Public Trust, hereafter �OPPT�. I have and do knowingly, willingly, and intentionally adopt, reconfirm, and ratify said DECLARATION OF FACTS as my own duly verified due DECLARATION OF FACTS, nunc pro tunc praeterea preterea, unrebutted as a matter of law, as matter of fact, and as a matter of public policy, hereafter �Proponent�. DULY VERIFIED NOTICE: Proponent duly gives and makes notice to Respondent that Proponent DOES NOT CONSENT to any unlawful and illegal devaluing, diminishing, abrogating, subjugating, subordinating, usurping, invading, violating or theft of Proponent's duly secured BE'ing, any and all creations therefrom, and property thereof. Respondent is duly ordered to CEASE AND DESIST any and all said unlawful and illegal actions against Proponent effective immediately. Proponent duly makes and gives you due notice that Respondent is lawfully and legally responsible and liable, in principal and triple damages under common law, for any and all unlawful and illegal actions against Proponent by Respondent causing and resulting in any and all damage to Proponent, inclusive of physical harm, physical detention, property seizure, property damage, financial damage, or any other damage of Proponent's measurable energy. Respondent�s attention is directed to the DECLARATION OF FACTS, specifically the foreclosure in late 2012, of the world�s corporations operating under the guise of the people's governments, banks and all other corporations for cause of treason against and the damage of the one people of this planet without their knowing, willing and intentional consent, specifically: Government Charters Cancelled: (Refer: DECLARATION OF FACTS: UCC Doc # 2012127914 Nov 28 2012) �...That any and all CHARTERS, inclusive of The United States Federal Government, UNITED STATES, �STATE of ...", Inclusive of any and all abbreviations, idem sonans, or other legal, financial or managerial forms, any and all international equivalents, inclusive of any and all OFFICES, inclusive of any and all OFFICERS, PUBLIC SERVANTS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, TREATIES, CONSTITUTIONS, MEMBERSHIP, ACTS, and any and all other contracts and agreements made thereunder and thereby, are now, void, worthless, or otherwise canceled, unrebutted; ...� Bank Charters Canceled: (Refer: TRUE BILL: WA DC UCC Doc# 2012114776 Oct 24 2012) �Declared and ordered irrevocably cancelled; any and all charters for Bank of International Settlements (BIS) members thereto and thereof including all beneficiaries, including all certain states of body owning, operating, aiding and abetting private money systems, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems, operating SLAVERY SYSTEMS � commandeering lawful value by unlawful representation...� Said DECLARATION OF FACTS, identified herein, restated here, remains unrebutted and stands as Absolute Truth in law, commerce and BE'ing, registered in public record, universal law ordinance, for all of the world to rely upon. See https://gov.propertyinfo.com/DC-Washington/ or www.peoplestrust1776.org. Accordingly, Respondent is advised that they now act in the capacity of an individual entity, without a corporate safety net and with full personal liability for EVERY ACTION THEY TAKE under common law protected and preserved by public policy UCC 1-103, and Universal law, the governing law laid out in the OPPT UCC filings. (Refer: WA DC UCC Ref Doc # 2012113593) Should Respondent choose to act on behalf of a foreclosed entity, causing Proponent any damage as herein stated, Respondent, in their individual and unlimited capacity will be held absolutely liable. Such actions may result in lawful remedy being brought against Respondent, pursuant to public policy UCC 1-305, including but not limited to UCC Commercial Bill (Lien), against Respondent�s assets. Further, Respondent�s attention is drawn to DECLARATION AND ORDER: UCC Doc # 2012096074, Sept. 09 2012, duly reconfirmed and ratified by COMMERCIAL BILL UCC Doc. No. 2012114586 and TRUE BILL UCC Doc. No.2012 114776 which


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 3:24 AM
OPPT?. . . .come to think of it, Scott Duncan HAS been pretty quiet these days ;)


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 3:49 AM
He is busy re-activate hold satellite :-D


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Sirwade Firsbey

Aug 11, 2013 3:50 AM
he's probably doing boat stuff when I mean boat stuff probably fucking on a boat


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 4:35 AM
Kirsten, for how long you know Chris Schulte ?


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 4:56 AM
This logo is supposed to be of significance, because of the KEY featured in it, has something to do with the definition of STARR in Black's 9th... http://www.economiapersonal.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/us-treasury-logo.jpg


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 5:00 AM
same as this one: http://grandduke.zoomshare.com/files/Holy_see_logo.jpg


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 5:07 AM
starr (stahr), n. [fr. Latin starrum fr. Hebrew sh'tar "a writing"] Hist. A Jewish contract (esp. for release of an obligation) that Richard I declared to be invalid unless it was placed in a lawful repository, the largest being in the king's Exchequer at Westminster. Also termed starra. "It is well known that, before the banishment of the Jews under Edward I, their contracts and obligations were denominated in our ancient records starra or starrs, from a corruption of the Hebrew word, sheeay, a covenant .... These starrs, by an ordinance of Richard the first ... were commanded to be enrolled and deposited in chests under three keys in certain places; one, and the most considerable, of which was in the king's exchequer at Westminster .... [T]he room at the exchequer, where the chests containing these starrs were kept, was probably called the starr-chamber, and, when the Jews were expelled from the kingdom, was applied to the use of the king's council, when sitting in their judicial capacity." 4 William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 263 n.a (1769)


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Aug 11, 2013 5:14 AM
Treasuries. (1922) Debt obligations of the federal government backed by the full faith and credit of the government. See TREASURY BILL; TREASURY BOND; TREASURY CERTIFICATE; TREASURY NOTE. Black's 9th


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Aug 11, 2013 5:16 AM
"Debt obligations of the federal government..." > BC's in Canada used to say on the back (backed-by) "REVENUE RECEIPT - FOR TREASURY USE ONLY"


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 5:17 AM
BIRTH CERTIFICATES > FOR TREASURY USE ONLY BIRTH CERTIFICATES > TREASURY USE ONLY BIRTH CERTIFICATES > TREASURY USE BIRTH CERTIFICATES > TREASURY ONLY BIRTH CERTIFICATES > TREASURY "...(especially for RELEASE OF AN OBLIGATION) that Richard I declared to be invalid unless it was placed in a LAWFUL REPOSITORY..."


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Derek Moran

Aug 11, 2013 5:26 AM
Scott Duncan- whats the LAWFUL REPOSITORY in Canada known as.....? :/


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August le Blanc

Aug 11, 2013 2:43 PM
In Alberta we have something called the Alberta Treasury Branch.... It is a bank... and the Alberta Treasury...


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David Johansen

Aug 11, 2013 8:26 PM
Kirsten, are you in Massachusetts? Are you relatively new here?


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 11, 2013 8:48 PM
I'm in Florida and yes, new here. My eyes started opening to what is really going on with our government two years ago. Unfortunately, I've been lead down several disinformation paths and have studied a lot of nonsense. Truly happy to have found this group.


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Neil Rowe

Aug 11, 2013 10:07 PM
what kind of nonsense Kristen?


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 10:11 PM
I think he is talking about strawman stuff :D http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U2kx9Gfisq4/Tf96N17xrNI/AAAAAAAADys/imDlh0yknqY/s400/Straw-man3.jpg


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 11, 2013 10:14 PM
That everyone's legal person is actually an account worth millions and that account may be cashed in for FRN's, strawman stuff. Also, I spent a couple of months with the Tim Turner Group in AL. I liked what the Restore America principles were, however the main group of people were so far out when it came to religion - it kind of freaked me out. Total zealots!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 10:15 PM
What religion ?


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 11, 2013 10:19 PM
Christianity, Jesus, they took the bible literally word for word. I'm not a Christian, I felt uncomfortable at every meeting and seminar. That's all I'm gonna say about religion, I don't want the wrath of Scott coming down on me if I cross a line, and it's off topic.


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 10:20 PM
So they take what has been used to fuck them, to de-fuck them ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 10:22 PM
It's like having a beer to relief from pain of having too many beers....it gets painfull over time :D


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Kirsten Carlstrom

Aug 11, 2013 10:24 PM
Exactly!!!!!!!


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Pete Daoust

Aug 11, 2013 10:26 PM
I get it.??....wow!!..good stuff !! :D


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