Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:10 PM
No. RiGHTS are given to those who respect and acknowledge and respect the rights of others. Animals make no such considerations. FUN FACT: Dolphins rape. ;)


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:11 PM
PETA--People Eating Tasty Animals


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:17 PM
MEAT IS MURDER! ...yummy, tasty murder. :D


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:20 PM
pigs, eat pigs, yuck.... im not eating pork ever again... theyt are like humans


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:20 PM
MMMM... Bacon.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:21 PM
lol,,, the piktin farm sold bacon,


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:22 PM
Yummy tasty bacon!


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:23 PM
Your making me hungry Scott lol :)


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:24 PM
so... ANIMALS HAVE RIGHTS ...until I'm hungry. :D


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 05, 2013 8:28 PM
If a right is that granted by a superior,, then they are not worth clamouring for, you have the right to wilfully or otherwise eat contaminated food. great.


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Carl Dunne

Jun 05, 2013 8:29 PM
The steak on my plate has the right to get in my belly :)... And i want bacon now too


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:31 PM
Shit...When's dinner/ I'm getting hungry.


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 05, 2013 8:31 PM
correction,, you 'believe' you want bacon now ;)


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:31 PM
I feel a tingle


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:32 PM
Good thing I'm free to believe what I want to believe. I also believe I'm a non-taxpayer.


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Carl Dunne

Jun 05, 2013 8:32 PM
Correction no i do want bacon now you're not qualified to know what i want :P


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:34 PM
I know I want bacon now :)


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:35 PM
I believe I want stuffed pork chops, NOW.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:36 PM
all belief is bullshit. :(


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Andre Beaulne

Jun 05, 2013 8:36 PM
not untill they can claim them .


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:36 PM
Ok, belief vs conviction.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:36 PM
haha, i love it that you people react to the my stupid comments. lol i love it.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:37 PM
change the dum subject, ms piggy, lol


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:39 PM
We sure do think wrong and value the wrong things :(


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:40 PM
your wrongs r right.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:40 PM
and your rights are wrong, i think English Language sucks.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:41 PM
I have only one right. the right too not contract :)


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:44 PM
And you speck it so well :)


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 05, 2013 8:44 PM
I do not consent to being denied my stuffed pork chops.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:48 PM
I want to hear Edna speck some more English :)


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:49 PM
i was raised a Gitksan and Carrier, so im not fluent in English.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:50 PM
is that why u r following me?


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:50 PM
no I am marred i follow to learn


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:51 PM
The other was me teasing you just joking too see if you cought it :)


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:51 PM
no i meant followed because you want to learn english, im married to but i still have hguman rights and desires. lol


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 05, 2013 8:52 PM
Moral relativism can be applied wherever those who choose to adopt it see fit.i would rephrase the question, does the golden rule only apply to the human species, or is life sacred in some sense and do we have a duty of care to all life? sorry thats 3 questions.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:52 PM
no I am Just dyslexic


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:53 PM
Yes Shaun, I just said that: Animals have rights until I'm hungry :D


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:54 PM
well im INDIAN


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:54 PM
Yesterday I tried to friend everyone but some people blocked me so I have been baned to friend for 7 days


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:54 PM
What part of India sre you from?


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:55 PM
according to Canadian history we r just savages, I, am a First Nation woman from BC lands.


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:55 PM
no Edna You are original :)


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:56 PM
Well that's not really Indian, is it? :P


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:58 PM
Don't identify yourself with a label some cracker who was ignorant of geography, gave you. :P


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 8:59 PM
Scott what should I consider myself i have been wondering about this?


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 8:59 PM
...a man works. I'd say `tard is a good one too :P


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 8:59 PM
im learning that now,,, and id like to use my education to educate the public that its all bs. canadian history is all bs, it makes me sick.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 9:00 PM
Nothing's Changed Edna!


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 9:01 PM
It's STILL bullshit. Try being one of those who are told it their DUTY to MAINTAIN the bullshit.


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 05, 2013 9:03 PM
i dont think its either or, you dont have to be a vegetarian to use the "phrase all of my relations" and mean it. but youd be a fool to starve for your beliefs.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:04 PM
alot has changed, we didnt understand the english language, we were stepped on, stripped of our identity , and have been denied our riights. so now im aware of this, so i see the idle no more movement, and if your asking do animals have rights? well if animals have rights? do the Original peoples have rights? at the moment, no... The queen has our rights under her dress. we need to assert ourselves. and Claim our animals rights.


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Scott Duncan

Jun 05, 2013 9:05 PM
BIG BARBECUED STEAK followed by fucking my woman/women until they cry... ...NOTHING on this planet has rights until I get those 2 things. I hope this clears up that "animal rights' question, concisely.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:06 PM
original Barbeque Party


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:08 PM
a original hybrid offence = original slaughter


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 05, 2013 9:09 PM
Anima -living soul- rights.?


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:09 PM
ill bring the originals.


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:09 PM
so then wheres the original rights?


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:10 PM
party harty


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:10 PM
verbal


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Sirwade Firsbey

Jun 05, 2013 9:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/421863931237818/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 05, 2013 9:13 PM
Hey hey....wow wow, my dog had rights, until I brought him to the vet last week to get him killed....but he had lots of rights these 13 years he spent with us....he has the rights to do everything I told him to do...EVERYTHING..!!!!


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Edna Agla

Jun 05, 2013 9:17 PM
i did read all that.


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Michael Webb

Jun 05, 2013 9:52 PM
Fun fact, while Robert Pickton was feeding hookers to his hogs, I was galavanting around the greater Vancouver area. I worked in Richmond and every Friday after work, I would ride my bike to Chinatown and pick-up 2 pounds of barbequed pork. *shudders*


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Scott Duncan

Jun 06, 2013 12:27 AM
Mmmmmm... bacon.


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Carl Dunne

Jun 06, 2013 12:34 AM
Seriously you vegetarians don't know what you're missing, live a little :P


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Scott Duncan

Jun 06, 2013 12:35 AM
I suddenly want a BLT and to fuck a hooker... Hmmmm.


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Carl Dunne

Jun 06, 2013 12:36 AM
And a big bag of weed ...


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Michael Webb

Jun 06, 2013 12:38 AM
I laughed... and... laughed. :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 1:36 AM
Haa..what the heck....fuck these puppies....


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 7:07 AM
You are what you eat, and there is karma, I would say you should only be so proud of eating meat, if you know for sure it isn't contaminated with drugs pesticides or gmos.


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Laurent Vah

Jun 06, 2013 9:52 AM
thanks for all the replies. what i had in mind when asking this question was not about eating animals ( i eat meat too), but rather is it ok for people to hurt or kill animals like cats and dogs (for profit) just because they are in the way. ( i work in an animal shelter and we would like to close another shelter down because of the non respect towards animal life, like animals in cages that are too small, killing kittens because there are too many, etc...)


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 11:01 AM
Shaun Hamer are you ok ?


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 11:02 AM
absolutely, never been better! why do you ask?


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Carl Dunne

Jun 06, 2013 1:30 PM
Shaun proof of this thing you call karma or it isn't real :P


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 2:10 PM
Call it cause and effect then.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 3:33 PM
Shaun Hamer you said: You are what you eat�..fuck me, do I look like a fucking peanut butter pot ?, or a fucking shrimp ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 3:35 PM
And then you say: and there is karma....where is that ?


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 3:36 PM
And then you say: you should only be so proud of eating meat: WHY IS THAT ??...I never associate the word proud with what I eat ? :/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 3:37 PM
And then you say:if you know for sure it isn't contaminated with drugs pesticides or gmos.: Fuck, so I have to buid a fucking laboratory in my house ?


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Phillip Prater

Jun 06, 2013 4:21 PM
It appears to me that you only have rights if you can enforce them, either on your own or with assistance. Aside f


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Phillip Prater

Jun 06, 2013 4:23 PM
Choice. You always have that right. Maybe not control of the choices, but you can always make a decision.


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 4:47 PM
What I meant when I said you are what you eat, is that the contaminants in the food will be accumulated in the body, And yes, proud was used incorrectly. Perhaps comfortable, (with the reality of contaminated food.) Would have been better. Just to be clear my position is not anti meat eating, as such, it is more an attempt to understand the unnecessary suffering, within the industry, and my intent is to not cause 'any' unnecessary suffering. Certainly not consciously anyway.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 5:10 PM
the contaminants in the food will be accumulated in the body: IS it possible that in my case these contaminents, end up in the toilet bowl ?


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 06, 2013 5:20 PM
SOME end up in the crapper. The body absorbs a lot, especially the heavy metals. It's good if you use a foot bath to remove them.


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 5:21 PM
I don't know, perhaps you could run some tests. :) The contaminants are present, especially in corporate products. But again, the issue of rights is somewhat seperate, Is the life we take, ours to take, It seems obvious the animal has primary right of use to its body. For nature's purposes anyway. Perhaps vivisection would provide a better morcel to chew this over than meat eating. Survival is survival after all. But when it comes to suffering for vanity or to test weapons etc, do we have the right,? of course we have the choice and the ability, but is it right.?


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Carl Dunne

Jun 06, 2013 5:57 PM
What i find flawed with vegetarians saying it is down to contamination is so is the air but you dont stop breathing, the whole world is contaminated in one way another why does not eating meat help that?. Some even drink flouridated water while telling me how evil my bacon sandwich is AND smoke. Delusional is all i can say


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:06 PM
Food chain....nothing else....and we happen to be on top of it, it would be useless to tell a lion, hey lion, do you think this gazele have rights ?.


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 7:33 PM
Did you read my last comment?. Perhaps the trouble with even debating this is that people defend their own position, more than they debate the actual subject. So, what about vivisection., or even just general cruelty, is it right. Or wrong.?


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Shaun Hamer

Jun 06, 2013 7:34 PM
Oh, and unnecessary suffering, how do you feel about that.


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:35 PM
If I see an idiot, beating a dog or a horse or a bird, there is good chance that I jump on the idiot :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:36 PM
I may even see this idiot as meat for a moment and feel like barbecued the fucker :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:46 PM
That's how it goes out of my brain :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:46 PM
By pieces... LOL :D


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Pete Daoust

Jun 06, 2013 7:50 PM
Yeah, maybe I've always been a genious, and never knew it :/


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Tara Duncan

Jun 06, 2013 10:39 PM
Interesting conversation. The concept of "rights" for animals or humans is largely intangible. Our animals have the rights we grant them. People have rights by societal consent. Some people are more considerate of their animal's welfare than others. You may face some sort of persecution for kicking your dog; but killing a deer could be considered great for a bar-be-que. I guess I'll just vote for the rib eye steak.


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Derek Moran

Nov 12, 2013 8:37 PM
Scott Duncan: No. RiGHTS are given to those who respect and acknowledge and respect the rights of others. Animals make no such considerations. FUN FACT: Dolphins rape


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