Buy a stock from, Microsoft.
Then buy a Canada Saving Bond.
Look at what you buy, and ask if they are identification. Its a financial instrument. Nothing more.
No LisaMarie, I don't think you're correct there. The BC is evidence that a security/financial instrument exists for your benefit, for you to engage in commerce through the PERSON. The state do not own you as that would constitute slavery. The state own the PERSON, and once you use it you are bound by the statute or act relating to the particular function you are using it for...
I get it Beverly. Here's my point/conundrum: I think it was chief Rock, if I recall correctly,who essentially stated what Eamonn said. He (if I have the correct reference) added that because it is ONLY evidence of a SECURITY/FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT, we are committing FRAUD if we use it as IDENTIFICATION. As Scott said, it's not IDENTIFICATION. We ought never to use it as such.Yet, be that as it is, I've yet to be asked for my SECURITY/FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT, to establish a bank account, or to deal with the government etc. They always ask for IDENTIFICATION and tell me that acceptable and recognized IDENTIFICATION INCLUDES my BIRTH CERTIFICATE ETC. What do I offer instead?
To be candid. I hate dealing with the FUCKERS (forgive me this is the first time I ever swore here and I won't do it again for a long time if ever), but, Mr. POLICY ENFORCER man and others demand it. I have to renew my OHIP soon, and I have a sneaking suspicion that they will require my IDENTIFICATION and will tell me they want to see my BC.
Ok, one last time... All the "ID" you get, BC, drivers license, health care whatever, passport IS NOT YOURS. You use it, for beneficial purposes only. Stop resisting!
Your birth cert is acceptable to a bank because the account is in the name of the person and because money is a tender for law, which make's them robbing your person perfectly leagle i'm thinking.
Two things strike me as funny with the OHIP card. The first is that we were told we needed to start "renewing" the card which can be used as photo ID in a number of places excluding Ontario. The second thing is that if you didn't buy into the renewal process, nothing happened. You can still use the original card.
Again Beverly, I get it. I've yet to be asked for my SECURITY/FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT. I'm ALWAYS asked for MY IDENTIFICATION. If I Provide my BC in response to that request, am I not committing FRAUD. Perhaps not last year when I didn't have a clue (lack of intent to commit FRAUD) I was innocent of FRAUD, but now that I know, if I hand over their BC, NOW I'm committing FRAUD because now I know it's not my IDENTIFICATION. Am I unclear in what I'm saying or am I missing something here?
I know when I got out I had a real old ID and did not have the 26 bucks to get a new one. and the cops told me I had to get a new ID I said why don't you believe that's me :)
Surprise. Guess what? They lied to me and said I had to renew it and give them my old one. Now I'm in this shitty leaking boat and don't know what to give them. QUESTION: WHAT THE HECK DO I GIVE THEM. They want IDENTIFICATION.
Beverly: Those who live in glass house shouldn't throw stones. I admire that Scott never lies. I don't want to be a Fraudster saying I hate the FRAUDSTERS. I loathe hypocrisy in others and myself.
Nothing can be used to identify you as you.
N O T H I N G !!
YOU commit SIN every time YOU give yourself up by admitting to the name. Comprende.!!
Read their bible shit about I.d.
It does say some shit about it.
HERE WE GO AGAIN. Is this a bad dream. I started this thread because I want to know from those in the know, what do I provide as IDENTIFICATION. If i'm dreaming, pinch me hard!
LB cannot be used gor I.D.
NOTHING FUCKING CAN BE USED TO IDENTIFY YOU FUCKING....FUCK FUCK FUCKING FUCKED....Just for you Harry. You're welcome mate. Any time. Don't mention it.
Health insurance is a commercial benefit. If you want to give value to your security by applying for such a benefit then you need to show you are the lawful holder of the security. They're not trying to "dupe" you, it's how it works... You can't just walk into a bank and withdraw funds from an account without proving you are the account HOLDER...
Follow the MONEY......Our birth certificate is BONDED & SECURITIZED & INSURED!!!!
THOSE KUNTS DOUBLE DIP BY MAKING US PAY.
Turn the tables on the muthafuckas.
WHO ARE "YOU"????
Just when ye need him & he don't fuckin perform....typical.......frog........kunt.....rainbow warrior.....frog.....bastards....terrorists. ....bombs......ENZED.......