Why? Would you "renounce" a $20 bill if I gave it to you? It's a SECURITY instrument. LIEN (CLAIM) it if you want the VALUE.

When did you became a Canadian Citizen ?????

If you are BORN here, you get it by entitlement. It's FORCED on you... The same thing One People's Public Fraud does.

at the risk of getting blasted here,thus far with what I have learned it is my conclusion that corporation of canada is unclean fraudulent and unhonourable...I want my hands to be clean of what they are doing to people,I have already refused to register my daughter.I do not want to leave or sacrifice inalienable rights but I want to be seperate from them...I want to stand in honour wether I become alighned or loyal to any of association depends on their honourable standing

Never seen anyone blasting someone in here :D

dry run i typed up today

NOTICE OF TRUTH AND INTENT To whom it may concern,Including but not limited to The corporation of canada and all agents therein and Her Magesty the queen of England. It is with a heavy heart that I write this notice of truth and letter of intent. During the last few years I have witnessed through my own personal experience and others great injustices and unhonourable actions that have greatly affected my life and those of the honourable people around me. I have spent the last few years disabled and suffering with chronic pain,slowly and painfully watching as my quality of life disapated,after years of suffering and finaly learning how to take measures into my own hands I discovered that the medical community was not forth coming in proper diagnoses,once I discovered and was able to seek and find proper diagnoses and viable treatment and was able to begin my journey back to good financial standing,I discovered that there was no work to be had,my dealings with the department of community services not to mention the amount I recieved per month to survive on were less than favorable,for the purpose of this notice of truth and intent I will simply say I would be willing to discuss details with any interested parties,thus not making this to long of a read. Needless to say once I realized the dishonesty around me I decided I must take responsibility for my own life and well being,I began a journey of research and education given what I learned I was able to cure myself and take a active role in trying to better our world,the details of this I will also spare the reader and be open to discussion about anytime. My father was a career servicemen in her Magesty's navy,my whole life I was raised to be honourable to look out for my fellow man and not bare false witness to injustice,my spiritual rules I live by command the same thing.....hence my oath to our father and creator to do no harm to another man or his property and to not commit fraud I believe that in these times of so very much corruption and lack of transperancy it is not only vital for good men and women to stand up to these same morals but imparative that we do so and in the absence of such action by those representatives in higher places of power and social standing?one has the right indeed the duty to be seperate of such unclean and unhonourable things.

:'(

no need to read book in here.....one minute you can get horny, and the other minute someone will make you cry.....whats the use of reading ANY books ????

OK, I won't even touch on the redundant fallacy "Notice of Truth" presents, because you clearly have no idea what most of the words you are using MEAN. Some you just make up... (unhonourable?) You need to do a LOT more reading, before you decide what TRUTH is. Giving notice acknowledges their authority. Notices are always IN RESPONSE to something. I have a higher rank than the government and CERTAINLY more "Authority", so why didn't I get a notice too? :D

JUNK MAIL IS NOTICE AND INVITATION! When you send "notice" to "officials" you are INVITING COMMERCE you fucking idiots! NOTICE IS IN RESPONSE NOT AN INITIAL CONTACT!

Seriously, I'm trying REALLY hard to dumb myself down to your level, but it PHYSICALLY HURTS ME TO DO SO, which is why I seem so hostile when I explain these things... PAY ATTENTION: NEVER MAKE FIRST CONTACT. EVER. NOT EVEN ONCE. WHEN YOU MAKE A NOTICE IT MUST BE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR CLAIM. THEY DIDN'T REQUEST YOUR NOTICE, DO NOT GIVE THEM ONE.

How do you lien the shit out of our surety? (Birth certificate)

Seriously, can I go back to ACTUAL thinking now? PLEASE tell me you people get this! You're all hurting me here.

OK notice is bad

so how do i seperate from them and return to honourable standing?

or where can i read what i need?

Step-by-step instructions for how to secure your name will be on http://thetenderforlaw.com Yes, that was a shameless plug. I claim the right to drop as many of these steamy things as I wish! Why? Because fuck you, that's why :P

lol\

CaBoom.... ;)

Sounds to me like you don't have a valid contract with the government! It's all fraud!

your pain seems to be what makes this group so interesting. lol

I guess ill just pop down town give them their i.d back and say fuck off

it gives it flare...

Will Preach Leeman, why would you do that? If you were given 20 dollars from Rogue Support Inc, would you give it back? CLAIM it. Lien it and give notice when they try to monetize it.

What exactly do you expect to be different once you are out ?

a clean concience

Ok....lets presume your concience is clean all wiped ...YOUR�E free now......but how are you going to keep it clean? See i have issues with this whole i am leaving the corporation of so and so, simply its unrealistic and childish, because after all are we actually part of the corporation or are we shareholders?

James Baal Ok...."lets presume your concience is clean all wiped ...YOUR�E free now......but how are you going to keep it clean? See i have issues with this whole i am leaving the corporation of so and so, simply its unrealistic and childish, because after all are we actually part of the corporation or are we shareholders?" If we make the choice to be shareholder then yes we are part of that system/corporation as "shareholder" at least. Shareholders hold responsibility for what the corporation does most certainly when said shareholder has clear Knowledge about the corporation violating so many rights and committing so many crimes against you and I and our people. I won't hold judgement on any man for life choices he Feels he has to make as long as his Heart's Right.. That Would be a bit childish of me my friend ;)

"Shareholders hold responsibility for what the corporation does" - Remember when I said you are all clueless morons who pull answers out of their asses? Here's a VERY good example. Jamie Weare Notsheep Barker, what idiotic self-made mythology do you pull that stupid concept from? Tell me. I want to know where these bullshit concepts come from. Show me ONE... JUST ONE incidence when the shareholders of a corporation where EVER held accountable for the actions of a corporation. JUST ONE.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU THINK THIS? Seriously, are ALL of you this stupid?

When SUN got a judgement against Micro$oft, did Micro$oft shareholders have to go to prison or pay the fines? No? But... "Shareholders hold responsibility for what the corporation does", so that can't be right! ...unless "Shareholders hold responsibility for what the corporation does" is a stupid moronic idiotic ignorant presumptuous and COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG concept. LEARN WHAT A FUCKING CORPORATION IS! I AM SO TIRED OF CORRECTING YOUR STUPIDITY, PEOPLE!

Don't worry Scott....I'm not going anywhere...just to bring good balance in here....I'm staying... ;-)

What isCORPORATION? An artificial person or legal entity created by or under the authority of the laws of a state or nation, composed, in some rare instances, of a single person and his successors, being the incumbents of aparticular oltice, but ordinarilyconsisting of an association of numerous individuals, who subsist as a body politic under a special denomination, which is regarded In law as having apersonality and existence distinct from that of its several members, and which is, by the same authority, vested with the capacity of continuoussuccession, irrespective of changes in its membership, either in perpetuity or for a limited term of years, and of acting as a unit or singleindividual in matters relating to the common purpose of the association, within the scope of the powers and authoritiesconferred upon such bodies by law.Law Dictionary: What is CORPORATION? definition of CORPORATION (Black's Law Dictionary)

and thats why i like ya Scott. if the local leg braker needs funding and i agree to back his play in what ever capacity.. well i would be party to the man braken legs hence i would hold Resposability for said legs being broke. Im not ssying the Fiction dont have its purpose. im not saying whats right for me is right for you.

What isSHAREHOLDER? In the strict sense of the term, a �shareholder� is a person who has agreed to become a member of a corporation or company, and with respect to whom all the requiredformalities have been gone through ; e. settlement,registration, or the like. A shareholder by estoppel is a person who has acted aud been treated as a shareholder, and consequently has the same liabilities as if he were an ordinary shareholder.Law Dictionary: What is SHAREHOLDER? definition of SHAREHOLDER

are you aware of the things the Corp does to our people?

the more "shareholders" they have the more power they gain..

my wife and children are current sharholders ;) lol we are all one people..

i smoke cigs and i know each pack i buy builds their poison factorys bigger and bigger poisoning more of our people, yet i still buy them. i own that resposability and if i bought stock in philip moris i know i would hold Responsability in poisoning our people. its not complicated. i still like your fire :)

if you know your hold equity in unlawfull activity it does that not bother you just a little? it did me, so i told em to Fuck Off ;) im sure you can comprehend that.

Ayoye !!!!! :-\

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You must have read a lot....you have a large vocabulary ...

its an artform and dont tell anyone but i copied that somewhere..

allow me to introduce myself ;) I am Jamie first born son to Dennis and Helen of the great family Barker, the 7th gen decent of my many times Great GrandFather Tecumseh.. I am the Father, Husband and King.... I hold the Hearts and ears of thousands and with but a whisper I can and have changed the very course of lives...

Allrigth...my turn now...:D thanks for this opportunity NON-NEGOCIABLE I'm the LAWFUL HOLDER IN DUE COURSE OF PIERRE DAOUST, Inscription No.119XXXXXXXX I�m the SOLE beneficiary of PIERRE DAOUST I make ALL business decisions for PIERRE DAOUST At least 51% of my blood is ORIGINAL blood I LOVE THE MONTREAL CANADIANS I�m a very NICE guy I am the MASTER or my PERSON Named PIERRE DAOUST And I reserve ALL RIGHTS�.all of them�

Nice..... to meet you my friend..

i am the giver of truth, defender of our people and protector of Honor, Dignity and Pride..

and idiot ;)

Batman ????

geesh, even I KNOW the Shareholder(s) can not BE held responsible for the actions of the Corporation.

well....except Jamie Weare Notsheep Barker.....he is SPECIAL :D

David if you give a guy gas money to go assault someone and knew what the money would result in, would you not hold resposability?

scott is correct, wait till they try interacting with YOU, then spring the notice of mistake upon them.

you are MIXING stuff Jamie Weare Notsheep Barker....this is NOT a philosophy group.....this is a REALITY check point type of group talking about LAWS.....in reality, not in spiritual or phylosophical manners.....you will have struggeling if you mix things up....just saying, maybe I'm missing the point again but hey !!!!

Shareholders of corp. are NOT responsible for fukal in the corp. point final....no phylosophy implied

ok im with ya.

good luck :)

rather then defend ill share.. The post had a question and this would be one answer.. Here is an administrative process of using notices to offer discussion to avoid conflict and secure a declaratory judgement is the simplest remedy. Notaries are ranked above a justice of the supreme court when acting in their administrative capacity with respect to notices, drafts, checks, bills of exchange, notes, or other negotiable instruments, and protesting the same for non presentment or non acceptance 1) Notice of Understanding, Intent, Claim of Right, Fee Schedule and Permanent Estoppel by Acquiescence. 2) Notice of Dishonor.. 3) Notice of protest for non-acceptance 4) Obtain a default judgement and estoppel (submit a motion for default judgement) ----------------------------- Notice Of Understanding, Intent, Claim of Right, and Notice of Permanent Estoppel by Acquiescence Dear sheriff Notice to agent is notice to principal, notice to principal is notice to agent. Affected parties wishing to dispute the claims made herein or make their own counterclaims must respond appropriately within FIFTEEN (15) days of service of notice of this action. I am serving herewith, My Notice Of Understanding and Intent and my Claim of Right, as well as Notice of Estoppel through acquiescence. You will find the enclosed intact and complete. I ____________ of the ______________ family , a flesh and blood living soul do hereby make oath and state the following is my truth and my law. Whereas : it is my understanding that America and all her people enjoy the protection of common-law and it is my understanding that all living beings (flesh and blood) are created equally under one creator and it is my understanding that we are sharing this existence on Earth together under our creator and it is my understanding that we have been given a conscience to deliberate and make decisions for ourselves and it is my understanding that equality before the law is paramount and mandatory and it is my understanding that a statute is defined as a legislative rule of society which has been given the force of law, and it is my understanding that a society is defined as a number of people joined by mutual consent to deliberate, determine and act for a common goal and it is my understanding that the government of America is a Representative Body and Representation can only come from consent and Whereas I am a peaceful and responsible human being and it is my understanding that peace officers have a duty to distinguish between statute and law and Whereas I have the power to refuse intercourse or interaction with peace officers who have not observed me breach the peace Whereas permanent estoppel by acquiescence barring any peace officer or prosecutor from bringing charges against a Freeman-of-the-Land under any act is created if this claim is not responded to in the stated fashion and time. Therefore be it now known to any and all concerned and effected parties, that I, (____________ of the ______________ family ) a Sovereign Freeman-on-the-Land do hereby state clearly and specifically and unequivocally my intent to peacefully lawfully exist free of all statutory obligations restrictions and maintain all rights at law and trade, exchange and barter. Furthermore: I claim the right not to apply for licenses, permits or to seek permission to do any action, that are already lawful, I claim the right to exercise my "common law right to travel", unhindered, unencumbered, at my discretion in my private conveyance of the day, to wit, my private, unregistered, unlicensed mechanically propelled automobile, I claim the right to possess, cultivate or use medicinally any plant or other medicine. Also to exercise omnipotent control over all of my own medical affairs with or without a Doctor's oversight. I claim the right to possess unregistered firearms and ammunition and to use the same for target practice at a range or for hunting for food and further swear under oath never to open fire on another human being unless I am in fear of my life and as a last resort to protect any other human life. I Also swear to come to the aide of any peace officer should they request my assistance. That is my personal oath. Furthermore, I claim that the intentional blurring of the lines and the failure to define between that which is legal, and that which is lawful in order to extract capital from the masses by legislating freedom and then putting a price tag on it is a crime on Man, and the failure to define between the Natural man and the State created Fiction is nothing short of fraud, theft, breach of trust and forced slavery, a heinous criminal activity of the most odious form. I claim that the courts in the United Staets of America are de-facto and are in fact in the profitable business of conducting, witnessing and facilitating the transactions of security interests and I furthermore claim that they require the consent of both parties prior to providing any such services. I claim that anyone who interferes with my lawful activities after having been served notice of this claim and who fails to properly dispute or make lawful counterclaim is breaking the law, cannot claim good faith or colour of right and that such transgressions will be dealt with in a properly convened court de jure. Furthermore, I claim all transactions of security interests require the consent of both parties and I do herby deny consent to any transaction of a security interest issuing under any Act for as herein stated as a Freeman-on-the-Land I am not subject to any Act. Furthermore, I claim my FEE SCHEDULE for any transgressions by peace officers, government principals or agents or justice system participants is (1oz of gold ) ONE OUNCE OF GOLD ($1,366.00) per hour or portion thereof if being questioned, interrogated or in any way detained, harassed, searched or otherwise regulated and (5oz of gold) FIVE OUNCES OF GOLD ($6,830.00) per hour or portion thereof if I am handcuffed, transported, incarcerated or subjected to any adjudication process without my express written and Notarized consent.] Furthermore, I state that it is my duty to Claim such rights, to protect them and ensure they exist for future generations.Furthermore, I claim that the law of agent and principal does apply and that service upon one is equal to both.Furthermore, I claim the right to deal with any counterclaims or disputes publicly and in an open forum using discussion and negotiation and to capture on video tape said discussion and negotiation for whatever lawful purpose I see fit. Responses must be under Oath attestation, upon full commercial liability and penalty of perjury and registered in the Notary Office herein provided no later than ten days from the date of original service as attested to by way of certification of service. Failure to register a dispute against the claims made herein will result in an automatic default judgment and permanent and irrevocable estoppel by acquiescence barring the bringing of charges under any statute or Act against My Self Signed: . Witness: . Notary: . (You print this up, have it notarized, and the Notary Public puts this original in the file and holds this original Bill of exchange for collection along with the first one. The Notary sends a certified true copy, in my case to the Sheriff. If the Sheriff registers a response he may pick up both of the original bills of exchange and all is done. If there is no response the next notice is crafted by the Notary, and placed into your file, sending another certified copy of that Notice to the Sheriff.) --------------------------------

especially when there's nothing to defend....

:D :D :D

your right..

my right or I am right ???...or the reality check point is right :/

Will Preach Leeman, read this and lets see if you can apply scott's attitude to it. http://www.legalucc.com/notice_of_understanding.html

well being our realities are subject to change upon the change in facts perceived in said reality i will say it is "I am right", but for the sake of furthered learning and the good will of mankind and more imortant to the "place" we are sharing said reality i might wish to say "the reality check point is right" and just leave it at that ;)

or try this one: http://www.dailypaul.com/77380/notice-of-understanding-and-intent-and-claim-of-right

ok.....I'm out for a cigarette....!!!!!

A few things to RESEARCH and apply to life.. 1. EVERYONE is EQUAL under and before the law. 2. EVERY individual is literally Sovereign king or queen ( I know ya love this one ;), but our dominion extends only to our own affairs . 3.Every individual shares an equal capacity to claim and exercise rights freely, and to engage in any activity they choose so long as no actual harm comes to another. 4. NO ONE requires a permit to exercise ANY right. 5. LAW, is the lawful defense of our individual Rights. 6. NO ONE can claim ignorance of the law, because the law IS the lawful rights of the individual, and as we all share the same rights equally, everyone is aware of what they do not want done to them by others. 7. CRIME is ALWAYS a trespass upon another's freedom or property. 8. In order to break THE LAW, you MUST cause ACTUAL damage or injury to person or property, or ACTUAL violation of another's rights. 9. STATUTORY RULES are just contractual terms and conditions (given force of law by your consent ;) . 10. ALL contracts are voluntary and must provide full disclosure of the terms and conditions. 11. SOVEREIGNTY simply means the highest authority, and ALL individuals are sovereign over their own affairs and property. "Sovereignty exchanged for Citizenship=Rights relinquished for benefits." �Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts.�

We covered what a corporation is, the elements of it, setting one up (incorporation) and the fact that once certificate of incorporation is acquired the corporation is it's own PERSON, it looks after itself... It does not have owners it has shareholders. These shareholders enjoy limited liability - they are not PERSONally liable for the corporations debts or actions etc... Jeez :p

In fairness, I didn't know much of the above up until 3 days ago so no offense intended :D