I'd buy tickets to that dance :D

Dont even bother going there mate.Even if you win you'll still lose. Good that ye have the BALLS but......hows wifey & kids keeping?

I have a funny feeling that these COURTS are PRIVATE places....and, again, its like going to HA bunkers trying to target one of THEIR members.....you might suceed, but good luck and don't miss 1 single coma in your sentences....this is the way I see it for now...:(

the TRUST fall.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=470700202966982&set=vb.120119314822728&type=2&theater

Hmm, I have the balls to do it no problem. What is the difference if you take a cop or crown into their court or you put a lein on their property, you are still open to retribution! Honestly when my buddy got into it with the crown outside of the court room,the guy RAN like a little bitch! I have observed one thing and I have been in court many times, they are more afraid of you than you should be of them, snakes are like that!!! If the statutes apply to them, then I say apply them. Scott the tickets are FREE and so am I!!!

Fuck them kunts up then Phil. Grwat stuff mate.

Ummm, the trustee in that video was just a tiny bit negligent in her instructions and/or duties ;-)

and the BENEFICIARY didnt follow the instructions...

or the implied benefit was different to the actual benefit ;-)

Philip- before you go and charge the Crown, do you have access to a Dictionary of Canadian Law?..... check out the definition for 'Assumed Jurisdiction' ;)

Knowledge is not power, the APPLICATION of knowledge is power!

Wondering... when I meet with a Justice of the Peace and I immediatly reserve all rights as per Scott's great instruction, what choice will they have? I believe they will have to ask how I wish to proceed as all meetings are court, courtROOM or not and they have no standing so....it's worth a shot.

Justice and Justice of the Peace are NOT the same. Learn what they are for before you do something stupid.

Learn learn learn....!!!!!

Scott doing something "stupid" if often how great things are accomplished. Thanks for not putting a comma after the word something! It is a live and learn deal, what's the worst than can happen? Jail been there done that, had a great time, really everyone should try it, at least to get over your fear of it. Also was an embalmer for 20 years and survived cancer for the last 22. What have I got worry about? NOTHING!! lets roll!!!

Lying on railway tracks is stupid. You don't have to get run over by a train to learn that.

It's only stupid if a) a train is comming and b) if you don't want to die. I suspect that all of this comes down to power, if the Justice or Justice of the Peace, perceives that you are more powerful (spiritually speaking) then they are you win. It cannot just be about paper and what's written on it, it's the delivery! These people in the "justice system" know they have to walk out on the street, they don't live in the Ivory tower called the court house. I ran into the Judge who sentenced me in the grocery store one day, he literally froze in his footsteps, I just walked by pretending not to notice him. If I had said boo, he would have crapped his pants. I have no fear (ego) or anything to lose. According to Janis Joplin, that's my friend is FREEDOM!!

one of the main things in my opinion is to remove all presumtions, assumtions and implied jurisdiction. and remember never accept the assumtion that I the one who am me is you If the YOU is being charged or the YOU is in some sort of trouble we can not be the you because I Am me, and we need to all start acting like it. some might disagree but its only my opinion

I like that thinking Bobby, it's the old who's on first skit. If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit!! Use any means to accomplish your goal!! I am beginging to wonder how many will have to courage to stand in front of a tank when they start rolling into Nathan Phillips square, like the one man who did so in China, not many, if any!!

I don't think we have to wonder much about that. We could wonder, perhaps, about how many people will be running behind the tanks cheering and waving flags, with the absolute certainty they are being saved from "insert ridiculous politically-motivated threat" here.

Now that I think about, we probably don't need to wonder about that either. There may be a few people watching the event on the news deciding if the tanks might interfere with their ability to navigate rush-hour traffic in their luxury vehicles.

So true!!! Lots of followers, few leaders!

I might do the right thing, or I might do the wrong thing.....I WISH that I will do the right thing of course, but I wont sit back and do NOTHING...never....

Better to light one candle than to curse the dark!! Do anything it takes, Brother!!

This just came to me..how about just walking into a court with an Affidavit affirming that- "...just like Peter Hogg says; i am not a Government Actor, performing a Government Action, or performing-a-public-function-of-Government. If anyone here thought i was, then that would be a MISTAKE, and i forgive YOU. Proceeding with this matter against me any further SHALL be CONSIDERED to be INTENT to DEFRAUD." :/

That is what Scott Duncan's notice of mistake is, less the intent to defraud part. Hopwever someone on this page said at his hearing or pretrial they would not accept the notice. I guess it depends if you bare your teeth or not!! I am going to use the notice, try charging the crown, get a Peace bond against the cop, I am going to be a force to be delt with!! Hope you are too!!

I would send the Notices BEFORE i go to court, as part of my proof of an attempt at private-administrative-remedy...

Yes, that is my plan I will go this week and give them to the crown, try to get one in the court file. Although here the clerks "say" they give them to the judge, which is bullshit because if the Judge got it he would have to recuse himself, I believe. So I will go to the Judges offices and be sure he gets one. I have had a few Judges recuse themselves already. If anything, wasting their time equals wasting their money also!! There is more than one way to skin a skin a cat/snake! Thanks for the advice!!

http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/rep/glossary-lexique-eng.asp

http://www.ontariocourts.on.ca/scj/en/about/forms/SR.pdf

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/scj/en/reports/annualreport/10-12.pdf

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/about/pubs/cjrp/Default.asp

WOW Derek, thanks for all the informationI

http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/about/pubs/courts_annual_11/Court_Services_Annual_Report_FULL_EN.pdf

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/links/en/

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/pre-2007/files/money/court/glossary.html

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/scj/en/civil/contactinfo.htm - MASTERS

Being a Government/public-servant-agency, they are SUPPOSED to provide you with INSTRUCTIONS on what to do, fiduciaries CANNOT hide information from you.....in theory

http://macquirelatory.com/bar%20association%20exposed.htm

..you should put the link to the front-page of The Windsor Star the other day in this thread ;)

Derek you can, but I don't know how, but do it!!

I was..but they accuse you of fraud in that article..didnt think it was my place to post the link in the group here

this is happening to me right now in the STATE OF MICHIGAN; a police and prosecutor conspiracy; they have no victims, no witnesses, only a complaining witness who is a special resources officer that didn't see shit nor have any involvement and probably strips on a stage at night...the case is misdemeanor and based on reasonable cause ok but the judge found probable cause to order a warrant, sound right? i think not....its a scam to waste time and pressure a guilty plea but i want to get it thrown out immediately. its been difficult.

Clubhouse rules. They ignore them on a whim. What are you going to do? SUE THEM? It's all about SURETY! "YOU"=SURETY Your "Name"=SURETY! I'll never quite grasp how attached all of you are to your NAME. It's not YOURS! It (and SURETY) were given to you.

Derek, go for it, charged with fraud, that was before I knew anything of the stuff we learn here. I have also been on the front page 3 times for that and a number of times for helping a friend go to Dr. Kevorkian for his special treatment and bringing the body across the boarder before they even knew what happened, I ain"t no shy guy!! That was when I owned a Funeral home so I knew all the ins and outs of getting a body over the boarder. Never met Dr K. he didn't want to implicate me in the "murder"!!

Dr K wow.

Got the concept Scott, however it's the other guy's in the "Justice system" that can't quite understand, but they are going to and soon!! You are one smart dude Scott Duncan!!

Scott, The Tender for Law has its first celebrity...the Windsor Star wrote about Philip the other day, AND, put him on the FRONT-PAGE ;)

Yes.

Google it, that was around the first week of May l996! A bit nerve racking, but I pulled it off, anything for a friend!!

Surety sucks.

http://www.windsorstar.com/Letters+land+free+thinker+jail/8258345/story.html

this is my favourite quote- "The letters also referenced Laforet's belief in an antigovernment movement known as Freemen on the Land. The movement, which argues laws don't apply to citizens, has been PICKING UP MOMENTUM across Canada." ;)

So...The Windsor Star says they don't know what "legal" means... Seriously, THAT was content-free.

Btw Scott the first time I was in front of Of a J.P. for bail and said POINT OF ORDER, I WISH TO RESSERVE ALL RIGHTS, they immediatly took a recess (like good little school kids) came back and decided that it was too hot for them. They decidied to bring in an out of town J.P. and crown. So On Monday last week I went before them, they were from london. Did the point of order thing etc, didn't work. However I crossed examined their expert bail cop witness, got him right riled up. The out of town crown fought like hell to keep me in custody. We were in there from10:00 a.m. until 6:30 P.M. and I won! Wanted to just walk out but got bail. A small victory, used the Notice of mistake, to no avail, yet. The J.P. was a nice lady who said I had a very argueable case, but she was only there for bail purposes. She put the crown in his place a few times, especially when he said she (J.P.) had to put me on the stand! She gave it to him!! I was ambushed off the street (Stalked) no warrant, and one cop threatened to kick me in the head! I told him I would own his fucking house!! No one wanted to deal with me, no finger prints no signing anything except the bail papers!! Scott you have unleashed a fucking Tiger!! Thank you so much Sir!! Anyone who is able is welcomed to link thE Windsor Star Article, I don't know how, it was on Thursday I think. Back to court on the 24th for some more fun and games!!

There was video with that story and it was the front page headline, the video is on you tube PHILIP Laforet discusses charges, you can link that also if you wish. Oddly enough the same day in the Star there was a story of a cop being charged with fraud, it hit the bottom corner of page 2!

Thanks for the link Derek!

*In my Best "Mister Burns" voice* Excellent!

Philip- you should also check-out the ALL RISE IN THE COURT-thread Scott and I did, where Scott goes through what to say in court again in some more detail...

...and Derek Moran learned what MISTER actually means.

"Did the point of order thing etc, didn't work."..... how did it not work this time, did you include the "Barring any objections from the court..." part?

BTW, at the time of the fraud stuff I was trying to expose the bullshit that happens in the Funeral homes, taking advantage of widows and orphans, shame, I took the fall, but it put the heat on the industry, you think the cops are bad, funeral director's make them look like fucking Boyscouts!! I should know at one time I owned 4 funeral homes, then I woke up!!

Yeah..one-half of a great 80's band ;)

If you have access to The Dictionary of Canadian Law, look-up CROWN CHARGES- the very end of the definition it says, "...by virtue of a CONTRACT" Might wanna ask them.. "Where's the contract??"

Im not even quite sure what thats alluding too.. i assume what you're asking for is- "Where is my employment-contract with the government proving that im a Government Actor or performing a public-function-of-government, performing a Government Action?"

Didn't do the barring any... part, thought why give them the chance to object. I asked both the J.P.'s if the understood and the said yes!! Where is this "All rise in the court" thread? my computer skills are minimal at best, as you can tell, but I do have a big mouth!! Don't get any idea's Scott!!

On entering the court, you aggressively make the first motion, that being, the RESERVATION OF YOUR RIGHTS. But since you're the only one in the courtroom with ACTUAL STANDING, you can be a total dick about it. You don't RESERVE YOUR RIGHTS, you RESERVE ALL RIGHTS! Not just yours, EVERYONE's. You remove everyone else's rights and give them to yourself. WHY? Because "Fuck off that's WHY!" You're the only one with STANDING. If you HOLD the power, WIELD it...don't be such a pussy! If you're entitled to ALL RIGHTS, CLAIM THEM. This is how you do it. When the "justice" starts speaking, interrupt them. Say, "Point of order!" They will immediately be silent. At that point, state "I believe I am the only party with standing, so barring objection from the court, I wish to RESERVE ALL RIGHTS now, and henceforth. Are there any objections from the court?" As the court has no standing to respond, simply speak to the record as such, "Let the record show that I have reserved all rights, and the court has not objected." At this point if they say anything to you, you simply say, "Objection. The record shows that I have reserved all rights, and I have not granted you leave to speak. Why are you speaking?" Do the same when opposing counsel attempts to speak. You will then be posed the question, "How do you wish to proceed in this matter?" for that is the one question a slave has the right to ask. What is their master's wish?

*judge begins to speak at his trial* "Point of order!" *judge goes silent* "BARRING ANY OBJECTION FROM THE COURT, at this time I WISH to reserve ALLl rights. Is there ANY objection from the court? *Jeopardy Music* Any objections? *Clock Ticking* ....Lookin' for OBJECTIONS FROM THE COURT! Going Once... (repeat second and third time) As the court has NOT objected I have , IN FACT, reserved ALL rights. (It is a FACT that's ON RECORD, and I wish the court to SHUT ITS FUCKING PIE-HOLE!) (...be silent). QUESTION: if you have RESERVED ALL RIGHTS, and they don't understand what you are referring to, when you speak of the PUBLIC RECORD, ASK your BITCH SLAVE, WHAT THE FUCK? ...like so: "Point of ORDER! It is MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS, IN FACT, A COURT OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. Am I MISTAKEN? As I, myself have, IN FACT, RESERVED ALL RIGHTS (Not YOUR rights, ALL rights. The rights of everyone in the court have been surrendered to you!) I wish to convene a COURT OF THE PUBLIC RECORD (Barring ANY objections from the court). You'll recall in other articles and comments, the levels of the caste system and how they give instructions. NOBILITY (KINGS AND QUEENS) EXPRESS THEIR "WISHES". ADMIRALTY ISSUES INSTRUCTIONS BY REQUESTING, ADDRESSING THEIR SUBORDINATES AS "MR". GENERALS GIVE ORDERS. The fact that if you have all the rights, and everybody else has none, you are CLEARLY the KING. So you are going to have to learn to give instruction by expressing your wishes. This is why they are asking how you "wish to proceed". Courts grant and test your SOVEREIGNTY all the time. You simply have to listen to the words they are using. At this time you may respond, "I wish to prove to some ass-wipe who sounds like he's got a dick in his mouth, the things I know, so I wish to go to trial PRO SE. But I wouldn't recommend this...I would simply wish the case to be dismissed. If they say anything else besides "I agree, case dismissed", you exercise your AUTHORITY by questioning. MASTERS QUESTION, SLAVES ANSWER. For instance if a "justice" said anything except "I agree. Case dismissed," you question why they are even speaking. "I'm sure you'll recall Mr. (insert justice's name here) that at the beginning of these proceedings I explicitly reserved all rights, including yours. Have I not made my wishes clear?" Always remember to respond in the form of a question. A question serves the dual-purpose of establishing your authority, and negating the possibility of UNDERSTANDING; because if you UNDERSTAND, you accept SURETY. As stated before, the most powerful of these questions is, "Who are you?" UNDERSTANDING cannot be presumed until that question is answered. Above all, questioning deflects SURETY. Scott Duncan MAKE A PAD of "NOTICE of MISTAKE", and MAKE them ANSWER the QUESTIONS, and if they are NOT answered, then you "CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE NATURE AND CAUSE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS".

:D I Slay Me. :D

You are too good!!! The best, so glad to have run into you in cyber space!! Keep up the great work!! ONWARD!!

I've spent 30 days in the dunk tank for contempt because i know made a few mistakes; that's the only way to end up there..traffic court is easy but the county district court seems tougher; they put on more pressure, they gang up on you real quick, even the public pretender defenders got involved yelling out in court from behind me, it was an all out assault and now they want to force a public pretender on my case, i need to figure out to block it and start fresh, court is scheduled Monday again.

Why did you consent to a CONTEMPT Charge? ...what? you think it was without consent? What KIND of "charge" is "contempt"? Civil, or Criminal? Civil? Produce the contract. Criminal? Who's the injured party? So... there's 30 days that made some strangers some money! :D

criminal but its not a breach of the peace so its fake.

Hey Philip...I'm thinking of INVESTING in funerals homes now :-D

oh im sorry the original case is criminal, the contempt is a quasi jurisdiction lol so

I had like no time they swarmed me like bees and whisked me away.

There has to be an injured party for a "breach of the peace".

exactly they don't have one and I saw the felony complaints of other inmates and the had "against the peace of the State of Michigan" on their complaints.

So, if you went to trial, you'd be cross-examining the "State of Michigan"? How will "The state of Michigan" fit onto the witness stand? :P

they wont they cant it will be thrown out, they will try to supeona a witness who has explicitly told them nothing happened and that they dont want to press charges...but these assholes chose to harass me anyways this is why im so pissed.

Secure the costs. File a commercial lien on "The state of Michigan" as regards the account(Docket number). When it's done, send them a bill.

Derek im being punished by fb and cant send friend requests.. I believe you have much to teach and it would be an honor if you would send a request my way.

Michigan contempt powers derive from statutes MCL 765.15(12), MCL 769.1k, MCL 769.16a, MCL 775.22, MCL 780.766, MCL 780.826 and MCR 6.427....... its nuts look at all this crap lol and I've never done the Lien process because i dont know how actually and I've been skeptical because I've heard some people have got in big trouble for some reason is that possible?

Jamie- i am not the brains behind this..i just "parrot" whatever and whoever the guy who set this page up says

..how do they do a LIEN in Michigan then, using a UCC-1 Financing Statement? signed, Tami - the OPPT guru

ok.. i comprehend fully.. the offer still stands ;) im new here..

yea we have the UCC-1 its available to file it in the Secretary of State office.

In hindsight, you should've started asking from everybody yelling at you for the name of the Underwriter of their Hazard-Bonds, the Bonding-number of their Hazard-Bond, where you can go to see a copy of their Hazard-Bond to see what the terms-and-conditions for the execution of their duties of their employment are, the location of their Risk Management company, and oh by the way- "..do you have your Bonds present with you in court today to produce them for my INSPECTION...?" ;)

doing anything wrong makes people look like idiots and wackos to these public crooks and since we have all the enlightenment taking place about the corruption going on it seems it has produced a lot of idiots in the way, making it look bad upon others and im not trying to be in that category, when i take the steps i want to take some good steps forward that make sense and are logical. Some people just throw out heaps of shit and look insane however i don't blame them for the trial and error which gains experience, its just how will you really know what works when you throw at em everything possible to get a positive result.

at Derek Moran, my bond meaning my BC?

"How do you wish to proceed in this matter?" for that is the one question a slave has the right to ask. What is their master's wish?"........ what exactly IS the proper response to this- "I WISH at this time for the court to....?" What- quash this matter, strike this matter, discharge, dismiss, withdraw the charges.. which is the proper way of saying it, Scott? :/

The guy who set this group up is AWESOME! :D ...hmmm, that sounds better when OTHER people sy it, doesn't it? :/

Derek Moran they did ask me that, they said "what would you like to do?"

J.C.- no, not your Birth Certificate, THEIR Bond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surety_bond

Derek Moran i need to find them, somebody said they may have them at our Secretary of State and others have said the County recorder i need to find em fast.

Ummm.. its kinda like, giving YOURSELF a nickname. I like the guy who started this group if only for the fact of how much he needs more cowbell.

TA-DA! http://bondcourtremedy.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/the-most-horrifying-words-a-public-official-will-ever-hear/

that's it, now i hope they don't hide them like a guy in Indiana said they have done or that they have more than one.

I remember being told that... http://vimeo.com/39387904

i knew i just asked a question back and delayed the process to bring up a different topic about the invalid complaint...check this out http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Articles/CommercialLienStrategy.htm

"Derek Moran they did ask me that, they said "what would you like to do""...... holy crap Scott, is it me, or did they give J.C. the keys to his freedom, but he just didnt know enough to take'em?

Pretty much, yes.

So for me, Philip, Brenda, and anyone else, what SHOULD have J.C. said once the Judge had asked him that question.............? :/

*answering my own question* SCOTT DUNCAN: "I would simply wish the case to be dismissed. If they say anything else besides "I agree, case dismissed", you exercise your AUTHORITY by questioning. MASTERS QUESTION, SLAVES ANSWER. For instance if a "justice" said anything except "I agree. Case dismissed," you question why they are even speaking. "I'm sure you'll recall Mr. (insert justice's name here) that at the beginning of these proceedings I explicitly reserved all rights, including yours. Have I not made my wishes clear?"

Derek Moran when he asked that question i stated "i demand the case be terminated" he remained silent for a few seconds ignored that move and then brought up other issues, then that's when I then i asked questions about the complaint, its like he couldn't hear my demand for some reason, maybe i should of said discharge; i was testing the non motion, non dismiss angle really, I wasn't scared of contempt although i lost ten pounds for the food being nutritious near the brink of starvation.

does this add some extra OOMPH to it?..... "I would simply wish the case to be dismissed, WITH prejudice" :)

"when he asked that question i stated "i demand the case be terminated"....... it'll be interesting to hear Scott's take on that :/

almost all the cases i've ever seen dismissed were dismissed on behalf of the Prosecutors motion, they seem to never grant attorneys motions and or in pro per/sui juris litagants either.

i know Scott before has told me to look-up in a law dictionary the difference between DEMAND, and, COMMAND though.. ;)

Scott has said never to MOTION. YOU, are to PETITION the court. MOTIONing with the court = CONSENT to/with the court having jurisdiction over you, as i recalled he explained to me

exactly, motions are what the attorney profession does and pro se is joining their world playing by those rules and if people suck at being a fake attorney the Esquires make people pay for it.

I have several trustees serving under me and if I EVER "demanded" they do ANYTHING, I'd expect much the same treatment. Nobility simply expresses wishes. Nothing else.

You WISH the case dismissed, you don't DEMAND. Where do you get authority over THEM? You are in their jurisdiction.

ahhhh your wish is my command like a genie in a bottle. nice i like it.

would his use of the word "terminated" matter, one way or the other...?

once you enter a plea and make an appearance in court per Michigan statutes annotated; the validity can no longer be challenged (this must mean it can be challenged prior to arrest and or entering a plea for the warrant/charges), however, I never entered a plea, I took exception to the rule and the prick in the black robe entered "stood mute" and put what he wanted in the "court register of actions" and not what actually happened because I didn't invoke the proper reservations of rights in the process.

-NOTICE OF MISTAKE!

when on the NOTICE OF MISTAKE it reads "deposited into the court" about the B.C. do I attach it to the notice as an exhibit?

All Hail to the man (Scott Duncan) who created this page!!! I have never seen such powerfull knowledge in one place!!! Now go apply it and see what happens!!! Way to go SCOTT!!!

Hear hear Phillip. The most awesome & self empowering site EVER. Thanks Scott & Tara. ..

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/scj/en/about/framework/memorandum_of_understanding.htm

If Scott looks expectantly at an empty coffee cup, someone comes along and gets him a new one. It's just that simple. Try this at home.

...my coffee cup is empty at the moment. Just sayin'. :/

I meant someone else. Oh well...there's your stinking coffee.

QED.

Good morning :-D