Mar 14, 2013 7:13 AM

Yep well I've read it once & it makes a lot of SENSE to a fucking muppet like me. For the record. I havent followed Deano, for over 6 months. Im now with the REAL FUCKING DEAL!!!!

sorry Scott in the end are you saying making a Special Appearance makes one a surety or, are you saying when one applies or motions one makes themselves a surety? Or are they the same? It's my understanding you don't even want to appear in court. You are better off dealing with it outside as it is still in the private.

well I know you are saying making a motion makes you a surety.

so allow me to rephrase does making a special appearance make you a surety?

PRIVATE !!!! Keep it that way.

Why send a fraudulent hoax Authority a signed letter or MOTION & BELIEVE that you HAVEN'T Entered into a CONTRACT with them??

No Daslow, he meant motioning makes you SURETY/YOU... Special appearance/friend of the court is the capacity you want to appear in...

No Daslow. I'm saying you CANNOT make a MOTION, or an APPLICATION to the court without being SURETY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae

You will notice MOTION or APPLICATION is NOT mentioned.

You are the only party with standing in the court as you are the only one legally authorised to give the PERSON value... So rather than motion express your wishes ...

Go in wearing a burger king crown too :p That would be quite funny....

*Blinks* OH my I simply MUST try this :D

Eamon, why even walk into THEIR COURTS??? Tis the last place ye want to walk into mate.

They simply throw me out.

Next time im in I'll show every1 the piece of ART thats In the melbourne County court. A huge fuck off snake. It actually looks very similiar to a VIPER.NOT A PYTHON AS THEY CLAIM. VIPER!! WTF? DENS.

Oh I don't want to go to court, no one should. Just speaking hypothetically...

The ball is in my court at the moment with regards to a solicitor's letter I was sent. I'm trying to work out the best response to send to avoid the ballcourt...

Just send him a noose & tell him its his! Its only offer. If thst dont work just send the parasite a bullet at the highest velocity speed possible & nail his knees with it. ;)

Im serious too. Not joking. He'd do the same to you.

Sorry choice NOT OFFER.

so in ways of putting the court on notice for your mistake how would you go about then. a petition?

A NOTICE OF MISTAKE Derek...

Your question answered itself...

I have a very Knowledgable contract lawyer friend and he was telling me you, want to make a declaration and not a notice as a notice can be rebutted and a declaration has more standing.

How can it be rebutted? By serving a NOTICE OF MISTAKE you are putting the burden of proof back onto the plaintiff to prove their claims that the defendant has surety... That's my understanding...

Scott will surely jump back in on this one... :p

And I'd imagine the "lawyer friend" is recalling what he's been taught by the BAR...?

Daslow Aizelasi , if you want to parrot BAR FUCKTARDS, tell him that he and the "justice" who's cock he sucks, ARE NOT, AND CANNOT BE A PARTY AND HAVE NO STANDING.

How do you REBUT A NOTICE THAT A MISTAKE WAS MADE?

Seriously? You REALLY think a sack-of-shit lawyer who harms strangers for a living is going to tell you the TRUTH?

Tell him to call me and I'll tell your "lawyer friend" he's a lying sack of shit, and I'll post the call here.

HE LIED TO YOU. WITH INTENT. You need better "friends"

Have you even read the NOTICE OF MISTAKE?

He no longer practices because he saw he wasn't helping people. He worked for the shmucks on Wall Street and walked away from it all.

You're lying, or he is. You don't GET to walk away. You are still bound by the oath.

Well, then he must be lying!

Tell him I said so.

There is NO such thing as a "reformed lawyer". In your SECOND YEAR you learn that your duty is to harm strangers for a living, and you have a third year and a year of internship/articling to decide. He did it WITH INTENT. He knew when he went in.

Being "called to the Bar" is "HOTEL CALIFORNIA". NEVER forget that. There are no "reformed lawyers". There are no "kind rapists", there are no "honest fraud artists". They even have to lie to their children to keep their oath.

Ask him about that!

I have not seen the NOTICE OF MISTAKE. would someone be kind enough to link it in this thread?

SURETY FOR IDIOTS has it in there.

Thank you.

yes but this is my issue. how would i bring forth this notice of mistake bring it into the court file and have the court address it. a motion from what i gathered would not help because that makes you surety. how would you go about introducing the notice of mistake. do you wait until the other party motions? how do you bring forth it?

Why don't you ask Dean Clifford, and the guy with the dick in his mouth?

They SURELY have the right answer!

...or you can read ALL my articles. I answer it all there.

Fuck dude, every time you say that I crack up. Sooo glad I'm not high reading these threads... dick in mouth guy...LOL

You should have seen the room of people who were listening when he asked "How do I sound"? Almost in unison everyone in the room said "You sound like you have a dick in your mouth"! :D

:D

I went to court today to find out that they are a freaking bunch of complicated idiots.....

and it smell shit in that place....

Can I seek for advice in here....???

SCOTT- regarding the AMICUS CURIAE, are you saying...that by virtue of them being members of the B.A.R., this automatically NEGATES them from as you said- "...ARE NOT, AND CANNOT BE A PARTY AND HAVE NO STANDING."....??? :/

Yes. The COURT is NOT A PERSON. BARtards are OFFICERS OF THE COURT

@ Scott Earlier you wrote "You are still bound by the oath." If the GUY IN THE BLACK DRESS is bound, why can the court decide if it wants to ADMIT (into the court) anything you/I/we put it/them on NOTICE for? When I started reading your wiki link I started giggling and almost peed myself with happiness cause I was thinking I really am starting to get your/the message, then the smile fell of my face when I read the second last sentence of the first paragraph which states: "The decision on whether to admit the information lies at the discretion of the court." The last sentence is curious as well. Itgot me trying to think clearly as I could. It states "The phrase amicus curiae is legal Latin." I am wondering (wheels spinning) as well, if the court gets to decide to admit or deny us and our offerings, is it because, much like a motion, when we use their language, such as "amicus curiae", (without ourselves providing a defininition as to it's exact meaning), we ENTER their "legal Latin" world which they have jurisdiction over what they admit or deny? In other words (pardon the pun) if we use their phrase or term "amicus curiae", do they get to admit or deny because , much like an APPLICATION AND/OR MOTION, we are using their law forms and symbols. ie: Use and their form of appearing "amicus curiae" and as is the case with a MOTION AND/OR APPLICATION they get jurisdiction over your forms and your POSITION/STATUS in the MATTER before the COURT. Help.

Judge? We haven't had JUDGES for decades. It doesn't MATTER what a JUDGE is bound to. You'll never see one.

Legal Latin is irrelevant. Define what you wish at the beginning of your writ. A writ is LAW. Frame it like one.

Tara Duncan and I have a running gag called "THE HUSBANDLY RIGHTS AND WIFELY DUTIES ACT" and I make up words and definitions all the time for it.

On entering the court, you aggressively make the first motion(??), that being, the RESERVATION OF YOUR RIGHTS. But since you're the only one in the courtroom with ACTUAL STANDING, you can be a total dick about it. You don't RESERVE YOUR RIGHTS, you RESERVE ALL RIGHTS! Not just yours, EVERYONE's. You remove everyone else's rights and give them to yourself. WHY? Because "Fuck off that's WHY!" You're the only one with STANDING.

If you HOLD the power, WIELD it...don't be such a pussy! If you're entitled to ALL RIGHTS, CLAIM THEM. This is how you do it.

When the "justice" starts speaking, interrupt them. Say, "Point of order!" They will immediately be silent. At that point, state "I believe I am the only party with standing, so barring objection from the court, I wish to RESERVE ALL RIGHTS now, and henceforth. Are there any objections from the court?" As the court has no standing to respond, simply speak to the record as such, "Let the record show that I have reserved all rights, and the court has not objected." At this point if they say anything to you, you simply say, "Objection. The record shows that I have reserved all rights, and I have not granted you leave to speak. Why are you speaking?"

Do the same when opposing counsel attempts to speak. You will then be posed the question, "How do you wish to proceed in this matter?" for that is the one question a slave has the right to ask. What is their master's wish?

You'll recall in other articles and comments, the levels of the caste system and how they give instructions.

NOBILITY (KINGS AND QUEENS) EXPRESS THEIR "WISHES".

ADMIRALTY ISSUES INSTRUCTIONS BY REQUESTING, ADDRESSING THEIR SUBORDINATES AS "MR".

GENERALS GIVE ORDERS.

The fact that if you have all the rights, and everybody else has none, you are CLEARLY the KING. So you are going to have to learn to give instruction by expressing your wishes. This is why they are asking how you "wish to proceed". Courts grant and test your SOVEREIGNTY all the time. You simply have to listen to the words they are using. At this time you may respond, "I wish to prove to some ass-wipe who sounds like he's got a dick in his mouth, the things I know, so I wish to go to trial PRO SE. But I wouldn't recommend this...I would simply wish the case to be dismissed.

YOU DON"T MOTION THE COURT

If they say anything else besides "I agree, case dismissed", you exercise your AUTHORITY by questioning. MASTERS QUESTION, SLAVES ANSWER. For instance if a "justice" said anything except "I agree. Case dismissed," you question why they are even speaking. "I'm sure you'll recall Mr. (insert justice's name here) that at the beginning of these proceedings I explicitly reserved all rights, including yours. Have I not made my wishes clear?"

ooppss..ooppsss...I hear a BELLIGERENT here...O.o

Always remember to respond in the form of a question. A question serves the dual-purpose of establishing your authority, and negating the possibility of UNDERSTANDING; because if you UNDERSTAND, you accept SURETY.

As stated before, the most powerful of these questions is, "Who are you?" UNDERSTANDING cannot be presumed until that question is answered.

Above all, questioning deflects SURETY.

Derek Moran, they will throw you out of these building...fast fast fast....:D

Reserving rights is the ONE MOTION they have no standing to refuse.

there are DRIVING ME NUTS with these stupid procedures....

In any courtroom proceeding in the western world, SURETY IS PRESUMED, and it must be deflected from you. As a "justice" is not a PERSON under the law, the only PARTY that can ACCEPT SURETY is the PARTY making the CLAIM.

Think of it as "Pushing the vessel away from the dock".

Let's zoom back to the present (so we can get as far away from belief as possible) where the word "YOU" is part of the English language, as are the titles, "Mr.", "Miss", and "Mrs.". All of these titles and means of addressing you, are in fact, assigning and/or presuming SURETY...yes, on YOU. The easiest mnemonic exercise you can do to make deflecting these titles second nature is to replace the titles "Mr.", "Miss", or "Mrs." with the word, "bitch", in your head; and to respond as if they had addressed you as "bitch", because being addressed as "Mr.", "Miss", or "Mrs." is doing exactly that.

As for the word "YOU", think of that as a tennis ball which must be served back. Assert your AUTHORITY by questioning whenever they address you as "YOU"; "Are YOU addressing ME?" If they're stupid enough to say yes, or even to imply the affirmative, demand proof; "By what authority do YOU address me as a PARTY OF SURETY?"...or something along those lines. Your only objective is to serve the "YOU" back to them.

So that's today's word, "SURETY". It's something you don't want, and I've just shown you how to give it back.

How can you write so fast for christ sakes..????O.o

Umm.....i didnt write any of that, btw

copy and paste shit

A Justice is a supernumerary (Third party contractor), and is not even part of the court system, nor is a "justice" part of the BAR...and why are you cutting-and-pasting previously typed stuff?

OK...I have to go to this fukin bunker tomorrow to file a petition for postponing my date of earing (I'm the plaintiff and Rvenu Quebec are the defendant)....They are telling me that AFTER I file this, I have to go to court AGAIN next tuesday a 2:00pm, to see a judge ....FOR WHAT..????....is he the one that will decide if I have good reasons to postpone the date ????....

:D

DASLOW- take it up with Scott, he fucking WROTE IT..and you're welcome, by the way - no wonder i see the phrase- "I hate you all" on this page so much - lol

>:-(

That shit was boring the FIRST time I typed it. :P

boring, exciting, terrifying, hornying....dosent matter Scott Duncan as long as its TRUE....

If you reserve ALL rights, they have no standing to speak, and therefore NO JURISDICTION.

"...BARtards are OFFICERS OF THE COURT"..... and is there ANY significance to this at all? :/

Lawyers have NO standing and "Limited Liability". They cannot challenge a "NOTICE OF MISTAKE" because they are 3rd parties.

If I may, Pierre, I think you've made the same mistake I did, which is to engage the court process as a plaintiff, who has all the burden of proof on his shoulders. Knowing what I now know, thanks to Scott, I'm contemplating reversing my position by placing liens on the corporation as well as the owner of said corporation - for the money that is owned to me. I suppose that might "motivate" them to file a claim against me (to remove the liens) which I could latter motion (?) the court to "join" the two claims together as they are tied hand in hand in every aspect. Would that not "force" the other party to the suit into some type of action?

I'm saying you CANNOT make a MOTION, or an APPLICATION to the court without being SURETY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae You will notice MOTION or APPLICATION is NOT mentioned.

if you want to parrot BAR FUCKTARDS, tell him that he and the "justice" who's cock he sucks, ARE NOT, AND CANNOT BE A PARTY AND HAVE NO STANDING.

SCOTT- regarding the AMICUS CURIAE, are you saying...that by virtue of them being members of the B.A.R., this automatically NEGATES them from as you said- "...ARE NOT, AND CANNOT BE A PARTY AND HAVE NO STANDING."....??? about an hour ago � Like � 1

Yes. The COURT is NOT A PERSON. BARtards are OFFICERS OF THE COURT. Judge? We haven't had JUDGES for decades. It doesn't MATTER what a JUDGE is bound to. You'll never see one.

Legal Latin is irrelevant. Define what you wish at the beginning of your writ. A writ is LAW. Frame it like one.

Think of it as "Pushing the vessel away from the dock".

A Justice is a supernumerary (Third party contractor), and is not even part of the court system, nor is a "justice" part of the BAR

If you reserve ALL rights, they have no standing to speak, and therefore NO JURISDICTION.

Lawyers have NO standing and "Limited Liability". They cannot challenge a "NOTICE OF MISTAKE" because they are 3rd parties.

Pierre..I'm just throwing this out there..for discussion....why couldn't you file a Notice of Mistake first...and then file a petition similar to that in the CAS note..only relate it to your situation?

Well�here�s what I�ve done in order Received a letter from Quebec Revenu Agency asking for some stuff Gave them ALL the stuff they asked for QRA sent me a bill of 45k My legs folded and my jaw dropped to the floor I OPPOSE to the claim They REJECT my opposition I filed a petition (that�s the procedure on how it work here) I found Dean Clifford on youtube I found Scott Duncan on FB I�ve sent them a letter ASKING for some information on my Person They don�t want to give ANY info And the date of the earing is the 21st of March� So I want to file a petition to postpone the date because I�m missing some CRICTICAL information and I cant proceed�.

"...and why are you cutting-and-pasting previously typed stuff?".....

for the benefit of Harry Nosed, a favour to Derek Hill, and cuz i know how you just love so much answering the same questions twice, and TYPING the same answers more than once ;)

Your spamming the discussion dude

Gail Blackman, my comprehension was that postponing the date was priority, and then, IF they give me the info I ask....which I doubt they will....correct everything

isn't the idea to try to prevent going to court at all?

So my question is - how do you make them come to the table?

I asked them: What have I done to deserve a title of a tax payer when did it happened who Hired me a complete statment of account on my PERSON on file a proof of remunaration

Ho...and who gave me the formation for the title and/or office and/or function

and, of course, a certified copy of any LAW that says I have to do what they say

I even taugth of making Them a conditional offer of paying everything they ask, but they need to supply me with all the answers to my questions....I'm not sure if its a good idea...

"Your spamming the discussion dude".....umm- you consider consolidating the BEST-OF info for the benefit of others SPAMMING?- oh thats right.....you're the guy who's found salvation from the OPPT, right? lol

i dunno....I'm thinking that they need to see certain words to "understand" you and recognize you ? I watched a video of a guy speaking in court...he knew a bit but didnt seem confident maybe? i knew what he was getting at but the judge kept dissing him and taking control.....it felt to me like she couldn't do what he wanted because it wasnt clear in front of her...so she couldnt "understand" (under stand meaning to stand under what he was saying)

well...I havent been to court so far....I know me, If I'm getting nervous or something like that, it will get out loud and with some quebecers swearing words.....hopefuly I will haVE CONTROL OVER THIS...

I think that's why unless we are well versed like Scott Duncan , we should try to do all we can on paper through filing notices etc with what we want them to understand....its easier to get the language right and no obvious nerves for them to take advantage of

You continuously regurgitating Scott's written words hardly make for helpful context. Try using your own words chimp. Far as OPPT or OPPF, I could give less fuck, I was merely pointing out their existence so FUCK OFF

WOW....ANOTHER FREAKING belligerent...

Maybe that's Scott Duncan's goal....make a bunch of wild belligerent in here

right now in your case...it sounds like they are acting like the King...when really they should be nothing more then the King's assistance acting when/if called upon

I will shovel a couple of kings in their asses....the thing is, is that I'm the fukin PLAINTIFF.....

I started this shit, because I didnt knew better....If I would receive this SAME letter today.....it would be a VERY different thing

I hear you...it's all about learning

I remember the letter said: WE HAVE GOOD REASONS TO BELEIVE THAT YOU ARE NOT DECLARING ALL YOUR REVENUES....imagine

I would og had returned the letter saying: WHAT REVENUES..???

Who is "YOU"?

;)

and another letter saying.: What makes you BELEIVE this..??...and so on

i love the questions in the Notice of Mistake...they're the one's I'd use

exactly....

why cant you send a Notice of Mistake...and use those specific words?

"I made a mistake, I didn't mean to FILE a CLAIM" lol, I wonder how that would go over...

My last letter I told them, there is either a mistake on the person, a fraud on the person, or I'm one of your slave

no the mistake is their belief of who he is

I had no idea about the or/and & the MUST/MAY/SHALL at that time

:D

i know but you do now

the mistake is they are thinking I worked for them in 2006-07-08

of course I'm not suggesting that what I'm saying is correct in this situation..I'm just throwing out my thoughts for conversation

the Mistake is that they think you are someone who is surety for them...no?

we all are

Scott Duncan, please, is the NOTICE OF MISTAKE work when you are the PLAINTIFF..??

That's what my post was about

How to reverse or change the "position"

The way I see it Gail Blackman, I already ACCEPT their jurisdiction by being the plaintiff.....I MUST rebutt the PRESUMPTION that I worked for them...

In the matter of SURETY for the LEGAL NAME, I believe that there has been a MISTAKE as the SOLE BENEFICIARY has been INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED as the accused. If I, AND/OR PERSONS AND/OR FRIENDS OF THE COURT AND/OR SUCH OTHER PARTIES ACTING IN MY INTERESTS, have led the COURT to believe by responding to �You� and or �DEAN CLIFFORD� and/or SUCH OTHER IDENTIFICATION THIS COURT HAS ADDRESSED ME AS, that I am the PARTY WITH SURETY in this matter, then that would be a MISTAKE and please forgive me.

I'm NOT the accused

you made a mistake if they have been led to believe you were surety and then couldnt you petition the court to withdraw your case? You created it you should be able to withdraw it

They have not BELEIBVED anything.....I'm the one who ask to go there....

yes can you withdraw your claim?

people are charged and cases dropped all the time?

and what after..???

Government will seize everything

lol...lol....I'm NOT charged

if you got that letter today....how would you deal with it..with all your new information

you arent charged but isnt it like you are charging them by beign the plaintiff?

rebutt the presumption that I'm one of their EMPLOYEE.....because ONLY employee of their organization have to follow THEIR rules

Thats EXACTLY what I'm trying to do by FORCE them to give me the info I ask...but they dont fukin give it to me....

why do you need the info to prove it? you are belligerent lol

so if I postpone the date because of MISSING INFORMATIONS and undisclosed information....they will either have to give me the info, so I can proceed....or everything will die after 1 year

isn't wanting to prove it to them....wanting their acknowledgement and acceptance of who you are...which is more passive then knowing who you are?

they are the DEFENDANT....

they are if your continue with the case...yes

anyway....I will figure it out.....hopefully with no damages....

for the record...I follow NO ONE

why not ???

sometimes its cool to follow...

because FUCK OFF

haha

By following my INSTINCT, sometimes I happen to follow someone....

MY

I found its almost IMPOSSIBLE for us, humans, to not get INFLUENCED or even MANIPULATE once in a while.....

it just happens to be the same way some one went once (or more) I was making clear that I accept liability for me EVEN tho I am learning thru others work. I looked up follow and wanted to make my stance clear.

oh fuk...thats complicated now...

almost.....but not

let me read this a few times....

Steve Lemieux- you are as Johnny-come-fucking-Lately as anyone there has ever been on this page..act like you know your place

I have to back Derek Moran on this.....he has contribute a lot in here so far....so leave the guy alone please....thank you

theres an old saying that goes "Don't Question KIngs". more or less the whole idea behind a Republic form of government everyone is Master of Self under the Divine Order of the Natural Realm...in the dialogues of Plato I figure the reasons for all the questioning in their culture is nobody wanted to be the slave depending on another mans knowledge...A. Einstein also said never stop questioning lol!

regarding Mr and Mrs being "bitch" lol. I recently went to court and the Judge said are you Mr. Pearson? she tried to be loud and speak fast to trick me while i was approaching the court recorder, I said "no" which I know better and should of said pardon me Who are you? what is your name? and continued in with questions and making demands.

Dazlow is the lawyer..... :p

i've heard even by "Special Appearance" that still gives court jurisdiction over the person because the simple fact you're body is there and the Motion what about writing Defendant in Error?

So Scott- say i want to take the City to a Court of Equity to get a writ-of-Certiorari or Mandamus ordered and enforced, but ive only ever been told i have to initiate the action by submitting a NOTICE OF APPLICATION...if APPLICATION automatically creates surety/joinder to the court's jurisdiction what would you use to initiate this proceeding then. OR.. since it is a Court of Equity you're seeking to begin with, does it even MATTER if you create joinder since that is the jurisdiction you wanted to be in in the first place, by submitting NOTICE OF APPLICATION for it?

I've had a drink...Amarach...!

cheers

Derek Moran, why, good sir, do you keep returning to your rapist for instructions on how to have him arrested?

"NOTICE OF APPLICATION"? REALLY? Um.. OK. "Notice of begging" it is then :D

exactly sounds right, an application is equal to begging, pretty much like employment applications...

Apologies for my off topic posts... Scott... The "Empire" have benefits of the wheat, barley, yeast n hops sort a plenty over here.... :p

Pierre, I'd imagine if you are bringing an action against a party you are liable for SECURITY OF COSTS and probably better know your stuff... :)

I'm the PLAINTIF against REVENU QUEBEC, because REVENU QUEBEC says I owe them $$.....and the way this fraudulant system work....I have to PROVE that I dont owe them $$......which is COMPLETLY ridiculous...I want to get ARRESTED if there is an existing LAW that says I did something wrong.....but they dont builded the system that way....because there is NO EXISTING LAW....

Pierre did you read the post, it's quite long, about income tax and jurisdiction and oaths?

where ????

I'd say a NOTICE OF MISTAKE is a way to go man. If you simply withdraw then they can come after you for bringing a false claim to the court. On what grounds are you bringing your action?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenderforlaw/permalink/492303727472231/

wow....I know what I'll be doing tonight..!!!!...

"Special Appearance means you cannot APPLY or MOTION ANYTHING. DOING SO MAKES YOU SURETY!" ok which part creates surety, the 'special appearance' or the 'APPLICATION and/of/or MOTION' ? and wouldnt the inclusion of one exclude all others?

The application and motion make you a surety

I cant find the friggin C.A.S thread so here goes On our chikd custody arrangement it states that the Mother & Father have equal & shared Responsibility for the chikd BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. GENEVIEVE BARKER (Applicant) ADAM THOMAS ( Respondent) Her name was first so im guessing that she actually has more POWER than I. Just call it out & dont be afraid of calling me a fuckwit or whatever. Even If I filed as the APPLICANT FIRST THE COURTS OVER HERE IGNORE IT & PUT THE WOMEN FIRST B4 ANY 1 ELSE. WHY??

Because the woman had the baby inside of her for 9 months and then delivered the baby....and then took care of the baby.....

Well fuck & I didnt?? If they're going down that path then well whatever happened to when I was carrying her around in my nutsack?? Is that for real pierre??

So they have more say in regards to the child?? What about LIABILITY?

So they have more say in regards to the child?? : I THINK YES...

Well fuck & I didnt?? : NO YOU DID NOT

when I was carrying her around in my nutsack?? Your nutsack is full of shit...:D

Hahahaha... its about to bust pierre. Like a milk truck hitting a wall at 100 mph man. Yeah im being a dick pierre, my point being LAWS OF EQUITY. EQUAL.....LIABILITY TOO. I fucked her up on that last year....hahaha.. her name in ALL CAPS NOT MINE.

I am a RESPONSIBLE PARENT TOO PIERRE.

women are considered property in admiralty so it's possible that they place the mothers name first in the "power" position because it represents the state's power/control?

You say POSSIBLE Gail. How is ??

are you asking me why I think its possible?

Yep.

You've lost me gail. Are MEN considered chopped liver in Admiralty?? How are they put in the POWER position & HOW does the STATE become involved there? I'm not seeing it, I ask for better & further particulars please ma'am.

first I don't profess to know anything....it just occurred to me as I read yours and Pierre's convo...that in law...between men and women, men have the "king" potential...women don't....if the question relates to who should have custody of a child...even though a child needs both parents love and contribution while growing(from a non legal perspective)...I'm thinking from a state/legal perspective...the law doesn't really care...and to give custody to the mother (considered property..if not to a husband then to the state?) it would be in the states best interest from a control position to give the child to the mother. I am not saying I agree with this perspective at all, just throwing it out there for discussion.

I am a RESPONSIBLE PARENT TOO PIERRE: I am too....but NO ONE can replace the MOTHER of a child....NO ONE....and I WISH that they have way more POWER than us ....male with a penis...:)

hey...by the way, this is how I THINK....anybody can think DIFFERENT if they want...I dont care...I've witnessed this 4 times with the MOTHER of my 4 children....and without HER around, I would have fuk this up big time...nothing can replace a MOTHER....certainly not a FATHER...be honest please...:D

All children need both parents. I agree pierre, it's a fuckin tough gig man. If my Ma wasnt here I'd be well & truly FUCKED.....

1 thing I certainly don't agree with pierre, is ye believe women have more POWER......holy snapping catfish man.....thats scary shit...... just think about that for a min.

How did she get into the lounge from the kitchen ?? :)"

Hmmmmm.... no bites..... I Love fishin....bigger bait maybe

bringing up a child isn't a competition... put the children's feelings and well being first and love them

So Scott, what is the nature of proceedings one commences if not to give jurisdiction and how does one get it into the court?

The goal is to GET OUT of court, not INTO it.

have any of you heard of Haudenosaunee? The role of man and woman is very interesting. Pierre mentions woman having "more power". ALWAYS remember more power=more responsibility. Although i don't think ANYONE should be in a "more power" position, the Huadenosaunee have a very unique perspective on how "power" or actions are carried out.

first ALL are daughters, sons, brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers.

MOTION = BAD.. APPLICATION = BAD.. i had hopes for PETITION, but PETITION seems to = a synonym for MOTION

on the other hand: COMMAND = GOOD.. WRIT = GOOD.. PRAECIPE(only written, never delivered orally) = GOOD

so D�fendant = good......plaintif = bad....

pierre did you get my message?

oh- learned yesterday about INTERLOCUTORY INJUNCTIONS, and how you can seek one if you are in a 'pinch' on the 7th-floor of 393 University Avenue in Toronto

which one cara ???

on you're page

Scott.. i suspect you seeked an INTERLOCUTORY INJUNCTION when your condo was stolen at gunpoint?

i wonder if a writ would be better to use to stop the court in all matters pertaining to the case you started rather than a notice of mistake. I presume you made the claim thru the NAME. But can the court not be ordered by Pierre Daoust in regards to the claim made thru the NAME? Command the court to refrain from all proceedings using the "point of order" when the NAME is called.

Scott, respectively, that doesn't answer the question. I see a lot of people offering very vague positions with no specifics on how to go about achieving the ends. One could easily say the goal is to win not to lose. Well of course! As far as I can see there is nothing in the rules that permits an intiating process much other than an application or a statement of claim with some small variances thereto. Do you have another way that works? If so, how specifically do you implement it? If its outside the Court, then where does it go and what exactly is it?

No, you only RESPOND.

It's called "OFFERING AS PROOF FOR APPEAL". They MUST address you somehow, if they are pretending to be a party.

Define "way that works"? What is your goal? You are looking for a "magic bullet" that doesn't exist. MY "way that works" is to remove presumption, and start demanding/offering proof for appeal.

So, If I understand clearly mr. government, your clain is that I was an agent of the government for the year 2006-07-08..???

Again, and I do say it respectfully Scott, I dont care what its called. What SPECIFICALLY are you proposing, that I answer to an action against a fiction? No not looking for a magic bullet, looking for information which may hopefully advance my knowledge. Define "way that works" and what is my goal is you say? Well, here it is, I would like to have the state take everything I have and to be rendered a slave forever, can you help me?? ;) I'll leave it to you to logically deduce what I mean by those statments. Again I am after specfics, give me the truth......I can handle the truth damn it!!!!!!! ;)

*sigh*

Ok, let me dumb it down. It's really simple.

STEP 1: READ MY SURETY ARTICLE, and then READ IT AGAIN. This is what you AVOID.

STEP 2: Get a TRUSTED PARTY to LIEN THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. This prevents them from MONETIZING.

Step 3: DEMAND PROOF that ANY PARTY has ANY authority to attach ANY name, which is derived from a PUBLIC DOCUMENT, to "Me". (Never use YOU except when returning SURETY.)

Just don't let them attach to a name.

ok Admiral Duncan of the TYCHO BRAHE, why couldnt the party (ME) lien the certificate of birth myself? IF ofcourse not, and i were to have my father file such lien, could it then be transferrable upon his death?

IF such a document were allready monetized, could that be claimed for return by a party who has the lien against the document?

Thanks for dumbing it down for me, nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk :$ Okay, here is my point, there are all sorts of theories out there. And they may very well be great. I hear talk of praecipes, motions, liening, petitions and on and on, but I see no practical examples of them or first hand illustrations of their success (or failure). A great theory absent the details on how to execute it and give it effect is about as useful as a fighter jet without a pilot - all it does is make a good conversation piece and uselessly takes up space. Common sense should dictate that the proof is in the pudding.

alternatively, would it be in the best interest of the party who is the father to lien the birth certificate immediately upon it's creation? (what do we tutor our friends to do upon the birth of their children?)

James, are you going into court or just have notice to go?

James- i hear what you're saying. I was listening to a lawyer last night tell me you have 2 choices: STATEMENT OF CLAIM for an action, or 'the alternative' a NOTICE OF APPLICATION to get a judge to make and enforce an order. I knew that he was wrong in naming it a Notice of APPLICATION from reading Scott's writings; i just dont know what we are supposed to replace APPLICATION with in a NOTICE OF APPLICATION..... Scott, im suspecting i would re-name it a NOTICE OF PRAECIPE? :/

for those who missed it, Scott gave me the THUMBS-UP on this observation- on the other hand: COMMAND = GOOD.. WRIT = GOOD.. PRAECIPE(only written, never delivered orally) = GOOD

Beverly, I am in court on many fronts ;)

Derek, that is the problem, if you walk into the court and try to file a praecipe or ????? they will not let you file it. I am not too caught up on what it is I file, whether Statment of Claim or Action, it all comes down to the substance of what is filled. In fact if u review the rules it specifically provides that nothing shall be dismissed for want of improper type of intitiating processs - its somewhere near the beginning of the Rules.

So what I am saying is file the praecipe by way of Application or SoC, it doesnt really matter. The court cannot dismiss it for improper initiating process. Take your praecipe, slap a "notice of application" cover page on it and have at er! So many of us fail to read the rules!!!!! Theories theories theories with absolutely no detail as to how to execute them. Derek, I suggest what the lawyer told you was correct.

"Just don't let them attach to a name." Step 3: DEMAND PROOF that ANY PARTY has ANY authority to attach ANY name, which is derived from a PUBLIC DOCUMENT, to "Me".

when such would be claimed, post fact to standing upon being called into their court, could not they claim that since the man stood to address the court in the matter that that action alone would be evidence of agreement to attach the name to the man?

David, so how EXACTLY are you going to that? By way of affidavit? Oral arguements? Oh, and did you enter the public document into evidence by way of the rules of evidence or are you just going to pull it out during arguements and demand they pay attention, or are you going to demand the the judge take judicial notice of same? Sorry to be a stick in the mud, but my point is that procedure is just as important as theory.

Scott, ( never use YOU except when returning) -ME & YOU?? WHY? EGO??

Lol...

Adam, YOU=SURETY

And what about ME ??

ME =??

James, have you already appeared in court as THE NAME?

of course not. i am not a legal fiction having its rights and duties conferred upon it by Her Majesty

I get it.... doooohh...

RE: "Go in wearing a burger king crown too That would be quite funny"

Chief Justice Bud the Oracle has burger king's crown beat all to hell. :P

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=137344019651059&set=a.137344016317726.55941.137343662984428&type=3&theater

James, you don't want to to in so handle it now. I would do a Notice of Mistake and add "if this should be a controversy regarding me, please provide evidence that I am an Agent of Govt as I believe there is none. Please provide your proof of claim and I was not notified of any injuries or damages.

Notarized and reg mail to crown/clerk.

James Allan in massachusetts district court they have a roll call twice before they actually have a judge come in and sit while they call the cases. when you arrive you are supposed to sign in at probation that you are there, and then 2 roll calls, sometimes a lawyer will ask to be put on second call. if one waits till they call the complaint, they have allready acknowledged surety for the name. isnt it then to late to argue that point?

so when they "call" you, you are supposed to plead?

the district court has the state seal on the wall up overhead where the judge sits, and the state flag to the right and the gold fringed gold tassled eagle topped U.S. flag to the left. so it's U.S. Admiralty jurisdiction concurrent with State as identified. entering the court is notice by the flag of the jurisdiction... (i'm going to try and get in to get pictures)

again, is the roll call your place to plead?

nope, you dont even get to plead. they 'arraign' you. they say, Mr so&so, you have been charged with... "a not guilty plea will be entered on your behalf", and you get a date to return.

when i heard that i immediately objected, the judge looks at the clerk-magistrate (probably never heard anyone object before), they said Mr, Johansen.... and I said I have no idea whats going on i dont even know why i'm here...

that was my case last january i havent ever brought up here for you'sall to have a field day with. needless to say it is how they operate the kangaroo court. of 4 charges i had 3 dismissed and paid the speeding ticket. half the $ for the ticket went to the town that arrested me, and IMHO it's fraud. they employ police to generate revenue, but a 'citizen' slave has no right to complain...

Yes, they basically do the same here, but make you plead. If you just say you would prefer to handle this matter they will automatically set a court date as you've plead "not guilty". You cannot "file" anything until this pleading bit goes on as there is no file. I faxed my stuff in long before that part went on and they got it apparently. Add on something like, "If anything here should be rebutted, please reply within 14 days." Then send a notice of default if they haven't.

this and all my studying here, talking these things over with all of you... my objective is to file the notice of mistake that the birth certificate claims born in U.S.A which is false it is constructive fraud. I was born In SUFFOLK County, Boston Massachusetts, and IF i had known (what I know now) before i turned 18 that I would have denounced U.S. citizenship, given back the social security card my parents applied for (i never did), could have never had to register an auto or applied for a drivers license and NEVER would have even 1 thing on the 'cory' (court) record. every single bad thing that has happened to me in my 50 years of existance is specifically and directly related to the fraud perpetrated by the government upon the people.

in 1998 i did 6 months for possession of a joint, my 6th offence. talk about redicilous.

I am a hi iq 144 autistic person, and i can figure out all this stuff given enough time. my goal is to #1 be free of the fraud. #2 be left alone. I have the right to grow a garden, store water, possess the ability to defend my posessions be it gold or fuel or a lawnmower. and i have the right to help others and to travel MY roads without being taxed or molested by the gestapo. I think it's what a lot of people just want, but the government pretty much makes that impossible.

Well, I want my license so I don't get hassled by policy enforcement, or if I need to rent a car, get passport, etc. You can use it when necessary. Learn how to contract and how not to.

I am also only 2nd generation here. my parents families are both from Moss Norway.

My parents are from overseas as well. You just need to learn how to deal with these issues.

did i just see you said you have a drivers license? how much do you earn carrying passengers & cargo for hire? is it a good living?

here, inorder to have such things one has to be in rebellion of the state inorder to be protected by the U.S. as a citizen, and under the unratified 14th ammendment one litterally is a slave.

which is why they can commandeer your property to trick you into paying fines related to commerce when nothing you were doing is commercial.

I have a right to exist without being part of their society. i was born here and do not have to leave nor be forced to pledge allegience. no contract made under duress can be enforced. unless one is a slave, then no contract is necessary, they rule, you suffer.

if your neighbors house was on fire and you hated him, you would still help put the fire out an save him some of his stuff...

Yah, but I enjoy traveling with zero hassles and renting cars, hotel rooms. Beverly May Braaksma has a license, but I don't. :D

I am only holder in due course

I can use it but it was never MINE.

apparently you dont understand how dealing with these issues is resolved. there are 2 choices, accept, or remove the problem. I choose to do it peacefully rather than it turn into waco texas.

point is why even pay for it when you dont need it unless you drive?

I need it to rent a car, get a hotel room, get a bank account, use my credit card in the US... many times I need it but rest assured... I am not tricked by it as it is NOT MINE

I drive every day, when I'm in or out of my country.

yes but see I shouldnt have to need it specifically because of the implications it creates. and no see you only think you drive without understanding the meaning. driving is carrying passengers and/or cargo FOR HIRE. if your not getting paid, your not driving. and if your not, then no license is appicable. why beg to do somthing you have the right to just do?

well you cant get a drivers license unless you have a social insurance card. there is no law that says one has to have a social insurance card. making people think they need to get a drivers license is a trick to get them to aquire a social security card.

the reason why you cant get a rental car, hotel room, bank account, or credit card is because everyone you deal with thinks the same way.

i hear you exactly the same as when i try handing the guy a dozen gold coins as surety that i'm going to bring the car back or not destroy the room...

I understand your point but it was given to me to use, hence I use it... but its not mine. So who is surety on this card if it's not mine?

you mean they just gave you for free a drivers license?

no application, no fee, no surety, no proof of identity of a person?

they just gave you one, so ofcourse you wrote in some made up name.

i sign checks John Hancock. never once had one come back.

you also dont need a social sec card to get a bank checking account. just get one that is interest free. and you can just print your own checks too...

Nope, I don't mind paying for a govt issued ID as license. Small price to pay rather than taking the path of friction... I need to get home at the end of the day and feed the bratty she-devil I bore instead of losing my vehicle and walking home... Those hassles cost more time and money than a stupid ID. I have no SIN number on any accounts.

well, if it isnt your's then you wont mind if the officer that stops you keeps it? must be stolen property then...

Why have a DROVERS LISCENSE ?? Are ye a cattleman ? Is your vehicle been DROVE by an cow, bull, ox or horse?? Are ye a TAXI DROVER ??

I enjoy weekends in Vegas or Mexico or even Europe for that matter and being able to rent a vehicle and get a hotel room. I'm not a camper... room service plz...

if you drove cattle for hire and passed through my property possibly damaging my property then you have to have a drovers license and insurance i can sue for compensation for damages for wrecking my fence and eating my gardenias! otherwise you would be being shot at and i would get to keep all the cattle i could catch on my property.

David, you are in the right place to learn but you must start reading... Otherwise this is futile...

I dont have to have any fucking drovers liscense David. Its BULLSHIT MATE.

@beverly, right, see as soon as i can get this name issue resolved, do the inc. (but that is a government benefit thou, who licenses those?) then the trust, then the lien against the birth certificate & it's associated investment account with fidelity (i've allready found that account), discharge the fiduciary, and claim/demand return from the thieft of $3M (cumeulative sinse 62) plus expenses... should probably be worth 200M by now. then i can use that to build the electric auto factory and put a few thousand local people to work, provide them benefits to raise families, and sign them all up as members of the trust.

then when I die, the company will be self sufficient and owner operated, it's own finance, health, everything. and if somone bombs it oh well, they will have to rebuild...

what could be more noble than saving thousands of americans by employing them at what they would like, and providing them with really cool electric automobiles, backyard gardens, & home fuel/sanitation refineries.

Getting off topic here. Stay on course.

David, you have to read all this stuff... its in here, then read again, and maybe again...

i have been. i must put in 40-50 hours a week reading stuff, sometimes 5-7 times before i figure it out. yes adam. sombody left the tiller unattended, must have been the free beer!

actually James Allan "procedure is just as important as theory." the whole point is that the cops shouldnt even be talking to me, except to say, "oh it's you dave, sorry to bother you", and just leave me alone.

they will once i ditch them. simply presenting the notice of mistake and the lien to the title (bill of sale) to the cop should stop them from proceding further.

unless one has comitted a felony, contract fraud, or done property damage and not made restitution, there is no reason anyone should even be wasting the courts time.

for being a gardener, my hands are clean.

David Johansen, freedom must be earned. It wont be handed to you. In theory, yes what you say is true. But we must operate in reality and practicality. Presenting the notice of mistake et al will most likely not work and they will proceed to convert your designation and issue tickets and summons and tell you you can take it up in court. But the facts that you establish at the scene may be a stepping stone to becoming free depending on what you do with them and where you do it.

yes james, that is why i still have a lot of work to go. the choice they should have at the moment of discovery is if they violate their oath and tresspass against me, i initiate my fee schedule which is an ounce pure gold per hour, from the time of acceptance to the time of the closure, 24/7 payable immediately. or simply agree that I am correct and everyonelse is or becomes free to do the same.

the whole point is the specification that consent is mandatory inorder to be governed, and consent must be withdrawable, such as expatriation would cause, but the point is expatriation should not be required as the 'patriation' initially was without full disclosure of the contractual agreement and null/void on it's face. there is no reason why i should have to expatriate and leave where i was born just to satisfy a bully. doing so proves he wins.

and for once they would have to admit the truth. which ofcourse they wont but I will prove the accusations to be contradistinctive with fraud which in and of itself proves that the lie is the truth.

David I hope all goes well. And i have much admiration for people in this movement. But even if your fee schedule is lawful, which I am not so sure, how exactly would you go about enforcing it? Are you expecting a government cheque after giving the cop your fee schedule? I am not aware of a single person who has had such a contract enforced and received money from the state, are you? Again, I emphasize that people get all pumped with these concepts but have little to no idea how to effect them, that is assuming they are valid in the first place. I cannot overemphasize enough the necessity for parties to know ALL THE DETAILS required to see these concepts through to the end to the point where they obtain a court order for your gold or whatever. And if someone says you can right your own order and have it enforced, well, I have yet to see that first hand and no one claiming such things has ponied up evidence of such things. So what should common sense then tell you?

doomed for fucks sake. if doomed without salvation (freedom) is the only possible result then i say just set off the big one now because THEY dont deserve to win.

yes i am rereading this post over & over and seeing more to it than i had initially. hey it took me this long to figure out what FFS meant!

James Allen. If ye contact the credit rating agency they will put a bad rating on the pig. I guarantee it.

David I dont mean to take the wind out of your sails. And I dont suggest that there are not good concepts out there. I simply advocate being practical, thorough and using your own common sense and logic. Adam, am my missing something here about the pig??????

that sounds like an addition to the plan.

so lets see if i got this straight. everything accept for SPECIAL APPEARANCE creates joinder, then if arrested special appearance is the only claim one can make. and the one phone call is to the party in possession of the trust as the bailor IS the magistrate. once cornered, must release custody of the thing.

James, FEE SCHEDULE.

so then after handing the officer the papers, if he faults, the corporation can file a suit against the corporation he is agent for aswell as him privately, and ruin him.

i have seen where someone filed a lien against a police officers home. and as i understand it a lien can be transferred (sold). so this avenue is a potential source of income for me and my heirs.

yes, fee schedule. have you filed your NUI&COR plus the fee schedule with the secretary of state, so when they violate you you have a value specified to sue them or any agent for? my fee to the government for anything, especially any unlawful detainment is one ounce troy of pure 9,999 gold (AU) per hour. note the state can only coin gold or silver as currency, it's in THEIR constitution. neither of which creates joinder, but that also leaves open the possibility of the notice and fee schedule doing such, but the choice is theirs to entertain the contract, i merely make it optional for acceptance.

so you guys are pretty smart, i'll give you that but you have a whole lot available picture to take in. you can sue them as a corporation who enjoined in a contract (by the act of the agent), send them the bill, and sue them in court for non payment and lien the F out of THEM...

a parking ticket has a fee schedule on its reverse along with instructions. when i brought them the ticket like it requests, i photo copied it seeing as it itself is just a copy and not the original, and applied my own fee schedule on the reverse, which the parking clerk cop that reviewed that ticket's rebuttal accepted by default when i handed it to him. it said, talking to or listening to any government agent will result in acceptance of the fee schedule of $1000 per hour inclusive of all time in between the initiation of and settlement theirof. so if he hadnt voided the ticket, and it went to court, from the time i handed it to him till they resolved the issue i had a rightful claim to a thousand dollars per hour between the initiated time and the conclusion, which could have been weeks, and that's 168 thousand dollars per week. could have easily run into half a million i could have sued the state and that officer for. the notice was irrelevent of the result of the parking ticket.

talk about ruining someones day who just thought they were doing their job.

this is also only in theory mind you, and possibly why they have been leaving me alone for the most part for the past year sinse then. but then again i pretty much keep to myself and dont bother them.

couple times i talked to a few local town cops about stuff. now if i went into the police station and asked for the chief, just to talk about stuff i get ignored, like they did the last time. now i just go to the local county jail and ask to speak to the sherrif, as i believe they can not deny me an audience.

oh, james, that's simple, you lien their property and then offer that lien at 50 cents on the dollar to a bank or to the highest bidder. the bank's greed should be enough to get them to buy the note. it's simply using their own trick against them, that and the greed of man. worst case is the lien has to be satisfied upon the sale of the title/deed liened. and it can be either sold or willed to my nieces, so they who outlives me will collect eventually.

see, now you may understand that the whole scope of the potential situation is that there is good reason for any government agent to not even talk to me. you are all happy with just them letting you go.

there are thousands upon thousands of those who are willing slaves they can go get their jollies out upon. millions of horrible news stories as yet unwritten, and yes I would have to be able to protect myself from the mob of serf's/citizens that would otherwise have me crucified for not swearing any oath to the emperor for his protection against those who he has lawful rule over. E. Plurbus Unum from many, one.

and that's fine with me, i'll take my chances with the mob of my own people. talking is somthing i happen to be almost as good at as keeping ones ear. WE the people, I do what I do for them, and for the most part unselfishly. i am David for a reason. the U.S. inc. is just the palestinien choice that's been waiting for me to come along, and repeat history.

note, their is no record other than slain of the giant, which leaves open that he was not killed and possibly palestine agreed to a treaty. which is the only explination I can think of why palestine can still exist doing what they are currently and not have been completely wiped out & absorbed.

James ye can AMEND ANY ORDER.Just because a judge signs it dont mean tis finished. NON AMENDABLE is your checkmate.

David, are ye enjoying bantering about OFF TOPIC SHIT Mate ??

Hey Dave, can ye share the ACID around please m8 ??

Adam, thats great! Show me ALL the details of how any Order can be ammended AND proof of it. But please give me the proof first so that I can see that the concept actually works and is not just some unproven "theory" I would be learning about.

James, ive posted things b4 so start reading mate. I stringly urge ye to Read the Bills of Exchange Act from your country which is im guessing here but Ireland. I know it works. INCHOATE INSTRUMENT(S).. that which is begun but not yet completed.

Im not showing ye FUCK ALL.WHY? Because ye DEMANDED & werent polite nor used manners. Its not an UNPROVEN THEORY either. Its all in that Act. Muppet.

NON NEGOTIABLE, NON TRANFERRABLE.WITHOUT RECOURSE. CHECK MATE MUTHAFUCKAS !!!!

James, ye talk the talk but want OTHER BEINGS TO WALK IT FOR YE. FUCK RIGHT OFF. Im not your crash test dummy bloke

Dean is wrong here

Funny how handy this old stuff becomes :D

Dean is wrong over there, too!

:D

I LOVE that the internet never forgets :D

I wonder what Dean has to say about his sagely comments now! :D

I hate the argument that using legal tender does not bind you. For instance if i am in china amd use chinese currency to involve myself in an act deemed illegal by chinese jurisdiction and i am caught in said act no amount of freedom nonsense will help the situation. The same goes for any fucking jurisdiction where the threat of violence is in use. No argumwnt will prevent you from being "charged".

I have however been searched for cannabis but had no cash on me and no ID. They stole my smoke but let me go with a warning.

And they probably smoked your smoke afterwards

I wonder if Dean C. Clifford ever drops by this thread, to see what became of his "wisdom".

...perhaps he can explain which Magic Good Court(tm) he's going to make his "claim" in.

LOL :D

Please, stop binging back these thread, please :D

I wasted 3 years of my life on something that could have been settled in 15 minutes :/

The first contact QRA made, was January the 6th 2010. ......I HAVE WASTED THREE FUCKING YEARS........fuck....

I know what to do now with these kind of offers :( ......it takes 15 minutes, if one takes his time and do it slow :(

If it's hard, you're doing it wrong.

Here's how that letters started....

Dear MR. PIERRE DAOUST,

We have good reasons to believe that you do not declare all your revenu and gains, so here attached a questioonaire, please answer all questions and return to us within 10 days

:/

I DID FUCKING ANSWERED ALL THOSE FUCKING STUPID QUESTIONS >:o

WITHIN 10 days !!! ......fuck, I just want to cry about this, today :(

That was to verify the years 2006-07-08

Fun Fact: I have begged them, 2 to 3 months ago, to send me that same letter for 2009-10-11 :D

They didn't :/

Perhaps it was something you said! :D

No doubt! :D

It's really easy to hurt their feelings.

Just some words on paper, and they go all tantrum :D

i wonder how many tax dollars are spent on tissues every year?

LOL :D

Think about it, Pete! You may be a burden on the taxpayer for all the extra tissues you make them use!

Well, these taxpayers just have to read this group. :P

If they don't, well fuck them... :D

Oh, and if they can't read English....well, LEARN THE FUCK OF IT !!!! :P

Um...

...Ok, nevermind. :/

HAHAHA....I know :D

By the way, I have a 1.6gb movie I would like to send Aquilae :D

Is it of your time as a chewtoy? Hahaha

No, just before it.... :D

It's all going to be in the Dying Language of a Conquered People, isn't it?

Can you repost in frenglish subs? Hellloooss?

Yes, it is :D

I KNEW IT!

Those fucking Quebecois have a different word for EVERYTHING

Stop it, Scott :D

I just read this whole thread again, and I wonder why Natural Selection hasn't taken the lot of you out.

I quit reading at "notice of application" :D

Jesus Christ!!!! :D

Ok, let me notify them that I will APPLY for some of their shit (nose picking).... :P

Anyone in here can open that link ?

https://www.facebook.com/dean.kory/posts/10208468652491303

Ceit, can you open that ? ....I can't, I am blocked from Dean Kory, but apparently Kory is using Scott's work, again, without, of course, attribution.....

Oh....I see it now....

Well, not me but Gilles, ok, what ever :/

https://www.facebook.com/dean.kory/posts/10208468652491303

one sec

sorry fucked up the order

i have 11 of em the entire post

That is an edited version of "SURETY FOR IDIOTS" :/

dated march 7 th

i have screen capture of the entire article if you need copies

Sorry, Pete, Dean Kory blocked me years ago. I can't remember why...

Shall I try to friend him with my stealth account? :D

Gilberto took care of it. :D

And that just cost the group.

Kick the shit out of Dean Kory, and I'll consider opening it again.

I have requested Dean Kory insert the appropriate attribution or take the post down immediately. I guess we'll see what happens.