Feb 22, 2013 7:17 PM

YES!

Make you an EMPLOYEE, then YOU are the SURETY.

Becauses the GOVERNMENT COMES FROM THE PEOPLE!

Beneficiary appoints himself the executor...right Scott Duncan?

Then we are in control of that surety! Correct?

lol

Should that also be "Beneficiary/Grantor" ???

I, Pierre, Im the beneficiary of the Account, Im the Master of the account.....The government is the surety and I like it that way....They created the Account....so be it....

I don't think so Tom... If we're the beneficiary then we didn't GRANT anything...

fuk the Grantor, there is no intelligent word for this in French....

I thought we granted everything to the Government ? Our "share" of Canada ? Is there a word for "settlor" in French Pierre...lol.

The GRANTOR is the CREATOR=SURETY. We didn't CREATE the trust so we are not GRANTOR... I think I'm correct in saying so... I could be mistaken though... I'm happy enough with beneficiary :)

so fuk them....

We grant them value to the PERSON if we operate through it...

It's our choice to or not. They built a funfair but we don't have to go on the rides... :)

Is there a word for "settlor" in French Pierre...lol.: NO !!!!

my POSITION is: My name is Pierre, my LBR no. is XXXXXX, I�m the Master of PIERRE DAOUST, I�m the SOLE BENEFICIARY for PIERRE DAOUST,, and I make ALL commercial decisions concerning PIERRE DAOUST�.for now on, EVERY commercial request from your part ANY of THEIR correspondence addressed to PIERRE DAOUST, will have to include a certified check of $250k for opening a file and 2 pieces of ID with photo.

Thats ALL I know in french for now....

From what I've gathered from Dean's videos....I thought that with the filing of my LBR (which is also a claim to my share of this land we call Canada) I was granting control of my claim to the Government, to manage, for my benefit. Conversely....the voluntary request for a Birth Certificate created a Legal Person I could use if I wished to take part in their little scam game they've got going ( Section 32 ) ???

I'll politely wait for Scott to stick his boot up my ass now...lol.

LBR is only evidence we were born on the land mass of Canada! I think!

It has to be a lawful claim (in my opinion) otherwise I'm nothing more than a guest here.

Scott must be busy having sex at this time of the day...he'll be back in 7 minutes.....

7 min. ???? What's taking him so long...lol.

Well he is closer of Quebec than you....he must have learned some stuff from FRENCH bad ass Smart Dudes....

In fact, this is the reason Scott gave me the rigth to be here....in private, I have to teach him on sex stuff....he is lacking a bit in that area.....

Lots of resources on the net for him (self help movies)...lol.

he has no time for that shit...

The LIVE BIRTH RECORD, as Scott explained to me yesterday, is only a statement. The Birth Certificate is a BILL OF LADING (Evidence of your possession of property).

The BC is evidence that you are the lawful possessor of the PERSON...

He's reading folks...he's reading! ;)

Don't kid yourself!

Bill of Lading is evidence of the receipt of goods i.e. the PERSON

What isSTATEMENT?

In a general sense, anallegation; a declaration of matters of fact. The term has come to be used of a variety of formal narratives of facts, required by law in various jurisdictions as thefoundation of judicial or official proceedings.Read more: What is STATEMENT? definition of STATEMENT (Black's Law Dictionary)

If someone wants to make their own identification card...what would you recommend to be on there?

-3 witness signatures -photo -address -date of creation of life

What else?

Ed O'Brien, of course he is reading...he's been reading all his life...we figured that one out ..!!! :)

why would you make some personal ID Ed O'Brien ????

If a cop pulls me over

They want identification

Who are YOU?

Dean Clifford has personal ID does he not?

EAMONN- great diagram you put up, and thats the way it SHOULD be, but...check-out TOTTEN TRUST in your Black's Law ;)

What is the name of the trust , is it the public trust or the Name of the Legal Fiction?

Blacks Law 5th Edition: Totten Trust Totten trust. A revocable trust created by one's deposit of money in one's own name as a trustee for another. � A Totten trust is commonly used to indicate a successor to the account without having to create a will. - Also termed tentative trust; bank-account trust; savings-account trust; savings-bank trust.

Surely that can't be the case, if we are Beneficiary and Grantor we cannot be Trustees (nor want to be)

looks like somthing Dean Clifford drew up some time ago.

Canadian and New Zealand Law are very similar... Commonwealth colonialist/admiralty beginnings. Take a look at Bill Turner New Zealand on Youtube. He has a few postings on youtube.

Bill Turner - Rebutting Presumptions is a great vid...

Its a good beginning for those just learning what we are trying to implement, Eamonn. Its where I send most folks who show an interest.

I'm awaiting a response from The Irish Revenue Commission to a letter similar to the one Bill describes in that video... They have until Monday to respond...

Is that your Statement of Claim, Schedule of Fees and Denial of Consent?

No the Rebutting Presumptions vid in which he highlights their use of the term "YOU"... By not rebutting their use of it after the correspondence was initially addressed to the PERSON then we are accepting joinder...

Yes. Got it. However, that usually only applies to a Court document here. I am currently battling our Accident Compensation Corporation on their demand for payment of what is essentially an insurance policy. They don't use 'you' but the fictional 'person' entity name. They explain away the need for a 'contract' as it is Legislated policy and therefore mandatory. They tell me it is a type of insurance 'if' I sustain an accident. I told them I do not consent to being charged actual money on the basis of a hypothetical argument.

It applies anywhere I'd imagine... Without rebutting it we are essentially responding to the NAME directly... By sending back the Bill T response we are asking them who they think YOU is ;)

Correct. ALL Courts act upon presumption.

Found a interesting little introductory read on "Trusts, The Players," over here: http://www.duhaime.org/LegalResources/ElderLawWillsTrustsEstates/LawArticle-338/Trusts-The-Players.aspx

When the court clerk comes in she is the trustee. She gives the charges to the judge [hot potato] now he is the trustee. He asks if you understand [stand under] the charges. Now you are the trustee. You don't want to have that hot potato. toss it back to the judge. Make him the trustee and assign the prosecutor as co-trustee.

I always thought The CROWN/prosecutor starts-off as the surety/trustee. The game they are playing is trying to get you/us to accept surety/being the trustee instead of them, by creating joinder and admitting to being THE NAME... :/

That makes LOTS of sense to me Derek Moran.....