Scott Duncan

Feb 22, 2013 7:24 PM
YES!


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Scott Duncan

Feb 22, 2013 7:24 PM
Make you an EMPLOYEE, then YOU are the SURETY.


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Scott Duncan

Feb 22, 2013 7:24 PM
Becauses the GOVERNMENT COMES FROM THE PEOPLE!


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 7:25 PM
Beneficiary appoints himself the executor...right Scott Duncan?


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 7:30 PM
Then we are in control of that surety! Correct?


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:04 PM
lol


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:11 PM
Should that also be "Beneficiary/Grantor" ???


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:12 PM
I, Pierre, Im the beneficiary of the Account, Im the Master of the account.....The government is the surety and I like it that way....They created the Account....so be it....


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 8:12 PM
I don't think so Tom... If we're the beneficiary then we didn't GRANT anything...


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:14 PM
fuk the Grantor, there is no intelligent word for this in French....


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:15 PM
I thought we granted everything to the Government ? Our "share" of Canada ? Is there a word for "settlor" in French Pierre...lol.


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 8:15 PM
The GRANTOR is the CREATOR=SURETY. We didn't CREATE the trust so we are not GRANTOR... I think I'm correct in saying so... I could be mistaken though... I'm happy enough with beneficiary :)


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:16 PM
so fuk them....


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 8:17 PM
We grant them value to the PERSON if we operate through it...


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 8:18 PM
It's our choice to or not. They built a funfair but we don't have to go on the rides... :)


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:22 PM
Is there a word for "settlor" in French Pierre...lol.: NO !!!!


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:23 PM
my POSITION is: My name is Pierre, my LBR no. is XXXXXX, I�m the Master of PIERRE DAOUST, I�m the SOLE BENEFICIARY for PIERRE DAOUST,, and I make ALL commercial decisions concerning PIERRE DAOUST�.for now on, EVERY commercial request from your part ANY of THEIR correspondence addressed to PIERRE DAOUST, will have to include a certified check of $250k for opening a file and 2 pieces of ID with photo.


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:24 PM
Thats ALL I know in french for now....


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:40 PM
From what I've gathered from Dean's videos....I thought that with the filing of my LBR (which is also a claim to my share of this land we call Canada) I was granting control of my claim to the Government, to manage, for my benefit. Conversely....the voluntary request for a Birth Certificate created a Legal Person I could use if I wished to take part in their little scam game they've got going ( Section 32 ) ???


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:41 PM
I'll politely wait for Scott to stick his boot up my ass now...lol.


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 8:46 PM
LBR is only evidence we were born on the land mass of Canada! I think!


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:48 PM
It has to be a lawful claim (in my opinion) otherwise I'm nothing more than a guest here.


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Scott must be busy having sex at this time of the day...he'll be back in 7 minutes.....


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 8:52 PM
7 min. ???? What's taking him so long...lol.


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:54 PM
Well he is closer of Quebec than you....he must have learned some stuff from FRENCH bad ass Smart Dudes....


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 8:57 PM
In fact, this is the reason Scott gave me the rigth to be here....in private, I have to teach him on sex stuff....he is lacking a bit in that area.....


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Tom Davies

Feb 22, 2013 9:00 PM
Lots of resources on the net for him (self help movies)...lol.


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 9:00 PM
he has no time for that shit...


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:02 PM
The LIVE BIRTH RECORD, as Scott explained to me yesterday, is only a statement. The Birth Certificate is a BILL OF LADING (Evidence of your possession of property). The BC is evidence that you are the lawful possessor of the PERSON...


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:03 PM
He's reading folks...he's reading! ;) Don't kid yourself!


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Eamonn O Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:05 PM
Bill of Lading is evidence of the receipt of goods i.e. the PERSON


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:10 PM
What isSTATEMENT? In a general sense, anallegation; a declaration of matters of fact. The term has come to be used of a variety of formal narratives of facts, required by law in various jurisdictions as thefoundation of judicial or official proceedings.Read more: What is STATEMENT? definition of STATEMENT (Black's Law Dictionary)


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:16 PM
If someone wants to make their own identification card...what would you recommend to be on there? -3 witness signatures -photo -address -date of creation of life What else?


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 9:18 PM
Ed O'Brien, of course he is reading...he's been reading all his life...we figured that one out ..!!! :)


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Pete Daoust

Feb 22, 2013 9:18 PM
why would you make some personal ID Ed O'Brien ????


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:22 PM
If a cop pulls me over


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:22 PM
They want identification


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:26 PM
Who are YOU?


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Ed O'Brien

Feb 22, 2013 9:32 PM
Dean Clifford has personal ID does he not?


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Derek Moran

Feb 23, 2013 2:04 AM
EAMONN- great diagram you put up, and thats the way it SHOULD be, but...check-out TOTTEN TRUST in your Black's Law ;)


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Maximus Legis

Feb 25, 2013 4:01 PM
What is the name of the trust , is it the public trust or the Name of the Legal Fiction?


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Mike Carparelli

May 23, 2013 2:02 PM
Blacks Law 5th Edition: Totten Trust Totten trust. A revocable trust created by one's deposit of money in one's own name as a trustee for another. � A Totten trust is commonly used to indicate a successor to the account without having to create a will. - Also termed tentative trust; bank-account trust; savings-account trust; savings-bank trust.


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Maximus Legis

May 23, 2013 2:19 PM
Surely that can't be the case, if we are Beneficiary and Grantor we cannot be Trustees (nor want to be)


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David Johansen

May 24, 2013 5:16 AM
looks like somthing Dean Clifford drew up some time ago.


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Gerry Cardinalli

May 24, 2013 11:29 AM
Canadian and New Zealand Law are very similar... Commonwealth colonialist/admiralty beginnings. Take a look at Bill Turner New Zealand on Youtube. He has a few postings on youtube.


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Eamonn O Brien

May 24, 2013 11:38 AM
Bill Turner - Rebutting Presumptions is a great vid...


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Gerry Cardinalli

May 24, 2013 11:39 AM
Its a good beginning for those just learning what we are trying to implement, Eamonn. Its where I send most folks who show an interest.


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Eamonn O Brien

May 24, 2013 11:41 AM
I'm awaiting a response from The Irish Revenue Commission to a letter similar to the one Bill describes in that video... They have until Monday to respond...


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Gerry Cardinalli

May 24, 2013 11:43 AM
Is that your Statement of Claim, Schedule of Fees and Denial of Consent?


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Eamonn O Brien

May 24, 2013 11:46 AM
No the Rebutting Presumptions vid in which he highlights their use of the term "YOU"... By not rebutting their use of it after the correspondence was initially addressed to the PERSON then we are accepting joinder...


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Gerry Cardinalli

May 24, 2013 11:52 AM
Yes. Got it. However, that usually only applies to a Court document here. I am currently battling our Accident Compensation Corporation on their demand for payment of what is essentially an insurance policy. They don't use 'you' but the fictional 'person' entity name. They explain away the need for a 'contract' as it is Legislated policy and therefore mandatory. They tell me it is a type of insurance 'if' I sustain an accident. I told them I do not consent to being charged actual money on the basis of a hypothetical argument.


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Eamonn O Brien

May 24, 2013 12:02 PM
It applies anywhere I'd imagine... Without rebutting it we are essentially responding to the NAME directly... By sending back the Bill T response we are asking them who they think YOU is ;)


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Gerry Cardinalli

May 24, 2013 12:10 PM
Correct. ALL Courts act upon presumption.


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Howard Posehn

Jun 12, 2013 6:58 PM
Found a interesting little introductory read on "Trusts, The Players," over here: http://www.duhaime.org/LegalResources/ElderLawWillsTrustsEstates/LawArticle-338/Trusts-The-Players.aspx


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Bill Wiethaup

Jun 12, 2013 8:52 PM
When the court clerk comes in she is the trustee. She gives the charges to the judge [hot potato] now he is the trustee. He asks if you understand [stand under] the charges. Now you are the trustee. You don't want to have that hot potato. toss it back to the judge. Make him the trustee and assign the prosecutor as co-trustee.


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Derek Moran

Jun 13, 2013 4:05 AM
I always thought The CROWN/prosecutor starts-off as the surety/trustee. The game they are playing is trying to get you/us to accept surety/being the trustee instead of them, by creating joinder and admitting to being THE NAME... :/


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Pete Daoust

Jun 13, 2013 2:22 PM
That makes LOTS of sense to me Derek Moran.....


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