Paul's BEST YET. It shows you what we are building.
Icbeonne Senama
Great! Last 25 minutes really Great!
Scott Duncan
You become "valuable" by USING THE MONEY!
How simple is that? :D
Icbeonne Senama
HONEST money though
Icbeonne Senama
I was on the gold standard bandwagon. This video really simplifies the system for me. Thank YOU!
Scott Duncan
It gets simpler. The problem is...THEN you get to see how dumb people REALLY are. People have fucked things up BIG TIME.
Icbeonne Senama
care to elaborate?
Scott Duncan
HONEST MONEY IS THE GOAL! Make it WORTHLESS to banks (unless they want to play too ;) ) and DEPENDABLE for YOU.
Scott Duncan
I tried to fix CIBC in the 90's and turn it into something useful. I failed, but I got laid a lot, so there's that. :/
Icbeonne Senama
Funny! At least you tried...
Scott Duncan
That's ALL I've done. 30 years, with some success, and LOTS of failures. I have lost over $27 MILLION in my efforts.
Scott Duncan
This one's my last push.
After that, I move onto genetic solutions.
Icbeonne Senama
27 mil.... wtf.... I can't imagine that much money... oh well. Funny you should mention genetic solutions. I just watched that stupid sherlock homes tv show with lucy liu ( I dig asian chicks ) and the show was about chemically inducing genetic disorders - obviously an outcome for good is possible then!
Scott Duncan
No.
Icbeonne Senama
You're sinister! lol
Scott Duncan
Basically if you aren't part of the monetary system we deploy... you die. Literally. Figuratively.
In 2 generations the people will be thinned out enough that we won't have the problems/damage that we do now.
There WILL come a point, where I say "WAKE UP, or DIE"... and I'll have something to back it up.
Then people will use an HONEST money system as if their lives depended on it...because their lives WILL depend on it. ;)
Scott Duncan
What? Too creepy?
Scott Duncan
Best get THIS one right then, hadn't you?
Because I WILL solve this problem one way or another. ;)
Icbeonne Senama
You are truly something! :)
Icbeonne Senama
LOVE the idea btw!
Scott Duncan
Cara wants to get all rapey with me.
Scott Duncan
No way man. Rule 34 says I can profit!
RULE 34
Google it.
Scott Duncan
You mention Kumquats, not me. i assumed the off-topic stuff was to get my attention.
Scott Duncan
When I assume, I am correct. MY assumptions are based on what I KNOW, not what I THINK I know. That concept is outside your experience, so you "believe" that is a valid position.
:P
Scott Duncan
No. It has NO VALUE. You have ONE thing that I VALUE. Nothing else.
Scott Duncan
It probably has a Kumquat stuck in it.
I'll dumb it down so there is no confusion. ALL interaction with you costs ME TIME. THAT is something I VALUE. You CONSUMING that value and returning NOTHING creates what's called a DEFICIT.
You are female.
I am an abnormally heterosexual man.
Your cunt is the only thing you have that I would value. Time spent utilizing it is GREATLY appreciated. It is the only time I can exist in ONE time and that one thing that YOU possess, is the ONE THING that you have that I could POSSIBLY value.
The same is true with every OTHER woman here.
Don't ask questions you don't want answers to. I won't lie.
Pete Daoust
wow...I knew it was a good thing to be a man here....no fukin around....:)
Pete Daoust
I'm not waisting time here thats for sure....in fact, I dont remember having so much returns on my time....but, of course, I speak for me...
Scott Duncan
Precicely. You have no VALUE to me...yet you pollute THE TENDER FOR LAW...you waste THEIR time with your drivel. Not mine. I KNOW the answers.
Pete Daoust
EEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOO....shut up with this please.....just never the fukin mind...unbeleivable....shit..!!!!!!!!
Pete Daoust
et voila....wise now !!!
Scott Duncan
I don't do that.
I'll block you PERSONALLY, but not censor. That is what you propose.
You see Cara,you are an example of a human that values the wrong things, and attach that value to your children.
You just don't see it.
But you are good reference material.
Pete Daoust
If ever you decide to agree with this Cara Small Atherton your entire life may change forever....just sink this in...dont say anything....
Derek Moran
Just finished watching this.. think the most important words in it come at minute 37:47 - "...made in the knowledge, that only rarely, does anyone ever ask, for REAL Gold...the REAL Gold was seldom CLAIMED, allowing fraudulent PROMISES(to pay) of GOLD(Bank of Canada-legal tender-promissory note-fiat money-bank notes), to be made and used as (so-called) 'MONEY'..."
Derek Moran
" I have lost over $27 MILLION in my efforts...This one's my last push."
..how much will it cost to get THEM to honour PART V. of the Bills of Exchange Act 1985, CONSUMER NOTE/BILL/PURCHASES ?
Pete Daoust
I have lost over $27 MILLION in my efforts = (27 years)..:)
Scott Duncan
It's irrelevant. The damage is on a GENERAL Ledger somewhere. Why would I care. If I put a knife in somebody with the intention to kill them, and it WORKS...do I really care about the mechanics?
Joseph Davia
THANKS again Scott - having already put shitloads of thought into the use of "money" and how it works - this presentation has confirmed my own conclusions - once you comprehend how it all is linked together that's when real solutions come about.....BITCOINS may go a long way to solving some of the "problems"
Sirwade Firsbey
yes thank you Scott Duncan
Scott Duncan
BitCoin was deployed to prove the concept. Nothing else. It's not even scalable. Wait until you see what's COMING ;)
Joseph Davia
CAN'T WAIT......
Derek Moran
FRED PALMER was the first-one to click 'Like' on this: "Just finished watching this.. think the most important words in it come at minute 37:47 - "...made in the knowledge, that only rarely, does anyone ever ask, for REAL Gold...the REAL Gold was seldom CLAIMED, allowing fraudulent PROMISES(to pay) of GOLD(Bank of Canada-legal tender-promissory note-fiat money-bank notes), to be made and used as (so-called) 'MONEY'..."
Pete Daoust
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Derek Moran
Chris Schulte: So I just watched Money as Debt III. Was it just me or was it 55 minutes of a description of what money as debt is and why commodity backed money is antiquated, followed by a "use the barter system" message? Did I miss anything?
Derek Moran
Chad Brodgesell: Every thing is a promise to pay until you accept it as payment.
I promise to pay you this cow for that chicken. Until the exchange is complete, it's Promissary.
I promise to give you this $100.00 dollar bill for that Ipod.
I would question not what debt is but rather WHO'S debt it is. If it isn't mine then I don't give a rats a** what it is. (Scott clicked 'Like' on this)
Derek Moran
Chad Brodgesell: MONEY as DEBT is like the UCC, What do you care of it if you have nothing to do with it. Just my OPINION by the way. (Scott clicked 'Like' on this)
Derek Moran
Chad Brodgesell: Ever hear about the Guy in Germany in 1930 something that went to the bank with a wheel barrel full of cash to deposit it. He turned to open the door and when he turned back Thieves had taken his wheel barrel, left the cash on the ground. (Scott clicked 'Like' on this)
Derek Moran
Scott Duncan: It also covers the creation of DIGITAL currency.
Use MATH instead of a "central authority".
One can only "Believe" in a "Central Authority".
One can TRUST math.
Derek Moran
Scott Duncan: You are thinking properly, Chad.
REMEMBER, the ONLY time you NEED money is when you are SPENDING it.
Derek Moran
Chad Brodgesell: 'When do you need Money?' I took a tenth time look at it and come up with this.
All the money in the world and you still starve/freeze/get rained on whatever.
You NEED MONEY when You NEED/WANT something and Someone else has what You NEED/WANT but will only accept MONEY in exchange .
The action of the transfer of value is the SPENDING part. (Scott clicked 'Like' on this)
Scott Duncan
The ONLY time you need money is when you are spending it. The rest of the time, its debt and obligation.
David Johansen
and how do you propose getting the other party to accept obligation compensation when they do not comprehend anything but cash? alternatives are fine as long as both parties understand what value is.
David Johansen
I would love to pay the rent without it interfeering with my limited/restricted cash flow.
Scott Duncan
I would like strippers to blow me every morning while I do my morning routine... We don't always get what we want. :P
IF YOU HAVE VALUE, YOU SET THE TERMS. This has nothing to DO with the value of others (Which is what rent is).
If you need ME to do anything, you will need to pay me in BITCOIN. I simply don't accept anything else. If I get enough of them, I can exchange them for any other currency, at a VERY competitive rate, to pay for things of value offered by others. The only difference is that YOU use a different currency than everyone else.
No magic. Just jurisdiction.
Scott Duncan
Remember when I said sometime back, that diving into this without understanding will reveal that you have no value? Well this is proof of that.
Pete Daoust
"ME" has value, and the value is determined by "ME" ....always.
Pete Daoust
If one want something from ME, and I get to decide I want 10,000 tomatos in EXCHANGE, and stick to it, one is better start growing tomatos, or use whatever he wants to use to EXCHANGE it for some tomatos....
Chad Brodgesell
Yup starting to comprehend that now. Scott Duncan. Still fighting all those years of school programing along with all the stupidity of others over the years.
Sadly in the last 6 months I have come to the horrifying conclusion of just exactly how much of a robot I have been all my life.
Blindly following what others say. :(
Pete Daoust
Me, I have come to the HORRIFYING conclusion that I was RIGHT.....all those years of delinquency, all those years of acting as a rebel, all those years of NOT complying, all those years of KNOWING deep inside of me that something was wrong, but all this without the KNOWLEDGE.....All these troubles I've got into, all these RAGES I had to deal with....today, I'm happy, I am not DECEIVED, I am happy that I WAS deceived all these years....because I was RIGHT.... :)
August le Blanc
what he said...
Chad Brodgesell
Not quite the same as you Pete Daoust but close. I understand what you went thru.
Pete Daoust
LOL.. :D
Pete Daoust
It all started when I was 7 years old Chad Brodgesell.. :D
Chad Brodgesell
That is the age I was when my Dad and his buddy swapped wives and my mind went numb and angry.
Pete Daoust
LOL...they EXCHANGED wives ? :/
Chad Brodgesell
Here goes. It does get old after awhile.
When I was a little boy Dad decided to leave his currant wife for his flying buddies wife and move to Vancouver.
Divorces apparently happened.
So Mother now has 3 boys a girl and a dog and a cat to look after.
Now the husband of the wife that ran off with my Dad too had 3 sons and a girl and a dog and a cat to look after. (Not joking, mirror image of families here.)
So they decided to join forces in marriage combine the 2 families into one big one.
Total fucking mess it was.
Mr. Brodgesell married Ms. Joslyn who became Mrs. Brodgesell and Mr. Joslyn married Mrs. Brodgesell who became Mrs. Joslyn.
Cristina Joslyn
David Joslyn
Paul Joslyn
Bruce Joslyn
Stupid dog
Stupid cat
.
Tatanja Brodgesell
Helge Brodgesell
Mark Brodgesell
Chad Brodgesell :)
Nice dog named Lady
Stupid cat named Whooly
Only me and Bruce never worked for The Gubberment.
Cristina fled as soon as possible to become a teacher, Public.
David went to pilot civil aviation and side trips with the Gov.
Paul went to administrate for Gov and Hotel industry.
Bruce did something with travel and went Gay.
Tatanja worked for Gov and Banking system and went Epileptic.
Helge went to Navy as Officer got very high up then went...Morman...
Mark went Gov Inspections Building and then moved even higher. Continues to be a self serving kunt who wants all of Moms money.
Mr. and Mrs.Brodgesell are willing their entire estate to the S.P.C.A.
Mrs. Joslyn continues to live on Vancouver island while being the good doppy mindless person that she is.
(I have proof of this from the family closet of skeletons)
Mr. Joslyn blew his brains out in the rec room with my .357 revolver.
Me..,I am here and realize how fucked up this world really is.
That is the short story. I could write a book but wont.
They HATE me with a passion as I ask questions and they prove themselves wrong.
Fuk I hate talking about my family..
Pete Daoust
Wow..!!!!...interesting!...is that what we call a disfunctional family ? :-D
Chris Evan
Wow Chad Brodgesell. Amazing! And that is why you are here! We are all here for our own reasons. Mine is similar to Pierres. I spent 23 years rebelling, 7 building a very successful and LEGAL business, 2 months losing it, and 3 years rebelling.
Chad Brodgesell
Yes,,,,very dysfunctional to make it worse the Brodgesell's be German and the Joslyn be English. :)
Pete Daoust
It's Pierre, not Pierres :-D
Chad Brodgesell
When My mother passes, all the skeletons will come out. I guarantee it will be on the news too. way to much corruption.
Chris Evan
LOL...U r really gonna correct my improper usage of plural?
Chris Evan
lmao!!!
Chris Evan
Time out....he is lookin up plural
Pete Daoust
I wish one day I can share my story with you guys, from the begining :-D , it is hilarious :-D
Chad Brodgesell
Chris Schulte, you are still rebelling and will continue till the day you die. You are in to deep. No way back out now. :)
Chris Evan
:-)
Chad Brodgesell
I am her because I was completely fucked up but knew something was wrong with what I was being told.
Now I fight back.
David Johansen
yep, i get it. I have NO value. I am as worthless as an illegal that doesnt understand.
David Johansen
I am the ONLY one who puts a value on my time. and doing odd jobs, well the cost to travel has put many outside of the range for being profitable, and the influx of illiegals have taken away most of the value to others I once had. and i can't just start eliminating them...
David Johansen
what to do, oh what to do...
Mike Carparelli
Derek Moran: some people just took the board-game RISK a little-bit too more seriously than others growing-up...board-game RISK = section 57.1 of the Bills of Exchange Act, 1985, and/or, the Birth(like a Stock)Certificate (Scott clicked Like on this)
August le Blanc
A most important thread, Indeed.
Pete Daoust
:-)
Anthony Buisc
(side note:) You is singular and plural, as in You; the name of some asian dude and "his" PERSON.
so just like religion is based on faith ............SO is the banking system
Eamonn O Brien
Scott Duncan : Basically if you aren't part of the monetary system we deploy... you die. Literally. Figuratively.
In 2 generations the people will be thinned out enough that we won't have the problems/damage that we do now.
There WILL come a point, where I say "WAKE UP, or DIE"... and I'll have something to back it up.
Then people will use an HONEST money system as if their lives depended on it...because their lives WILL depend on it.
____________________________________________________________
This was originally posted back when I first joined the group... I probably thought, "What the fuck is this fella on about?"
Re-reading it now it makes so much sense... Ties everything in together...
Get busy livin' (producing value) or get busy dyin' (being naturally selected for extinction)
:D Hup ya boya!
Cara Small
Tommy Atherton
Pete Daoust
Eamonn O Brien !!!! :D
Rick Hiltz
Lots of peuple live with out using money
Pete Daoust
Where ? :/
Rick Hiltz
all over .people fed up with society just step away and no longer wish to participate in it
Rick Hiltz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_Ga2iR_x4
Pete Daoust
He's dead ? :/
Matthew Gundry
0:18:23 "Money is not the Value for which Goods are exchanged, but the Value by which they are exchanged." I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly... Could I state that as, the value of money is that it facilitates exchange?
Scott Duncan
Yes...and ACCOUNTS for it.
ALL QUESTIONS IN LAW COME DOWN TO ACCOUNTING AND SURETY.
Scott Duncan
If you are ever lost/distracted, regarding law, focus on that.
Matthew Gundry
Just over a year ago I went to a madge court over a suspended driving allegation. If I had asked, 'Isn't it fraud to create a debt where there is no proven injury?', would that have been contempt of court or case dismissed? Or still just, 'Fuck you, pay me' ?
Howard Posehn
BUMP
John Greco
I'm going home to make popcorn and watch this on the big screen!
Scott Duncan
It's the most relevant video you have ever watched.
John Greco
I agree . . I'm going to watch it for the fourth time tonight. I'm a slow learner.
Shepard Smith
Looks like Scott found some more homework for me......on it!
Scott Duncan
I wonder what became of Chad?
Last we heard I'd hurt his feelings and broke his brain, or something. :D
Pete Daoust
HAHAHA!! :D
Anibal Jose Baez
And, what ever happened to "the good Shepard"? :D
Scott Duncan
He could not reconcile being a Piece-of-Shit Christian and reality. With few exceptions, people who are ex-piece-of-shit christians, have a hard time facing me.
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