The Tender For Law

Volume 1

Feb 13, 2013 11:19 PM

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Derek Moran

The birth certificate has two signatures on it.. one on the left side, one on the right side.. as i understand it.. the right side represents the credit.. the left side represents the debt, so.. whoever signed it on the right side created the credit for whatever my birth-certificate-Bond is worth.. whoever signed it on the right side is the surety.. whoever signed it on the right side is liable.. whoever signed it on the right side is liable, and, they are liable to me.....?

James Baal

How is the Birth certificate the same as a Bank Note and a Check??? CERTIFICATE A writing by which testimony is given that a fact has or has not taken place. Laclede Land & Improvement Co. v. Morten, 183 Mo.App. 637, 167 S.W. 658. CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRY. In maritime law. A certificate of the registration of a vessel according to the registry acts, for the purpose of giving her a national character. 3 Steph.Comm. 274; 3 Kent, Comm. 139-150. I find this confusing???

Derek Moran

*hmmmmmmm...it would be nice to reboot this thread and see it to its intended conclusion*

Scott Duncan: So now you have 3 of the SAME THINGS, DON'T WE?

BIRTH CERTIFICATE TWENTY DOLLAR BILL CHEQUE FROM PIERRE TO SCOTT

Bill Wiethaup

It's a certified copy. But, speaking of this...We also have what is called the ROLB: Record Of Live Birth, or the COLB: Certificate Of Live Birth. Those have parents signatures on them. But only the "governments" signature on the BC.

Adam Thomas

Justice Nettle, who just sentencedvthat evil kunt bayley, for 35 years to life for raping & murdering the most beautiful gorgeous Jill Meagher, Irish goddess. ...he is the man that made it PUBLIC that any ex kunt vop that's dirty can now use my case against them in courts if they are NO LONGER SERVING MEMBERS OF THE VICTORIAN POLICE FORCE. Ethical Standard Department files... on their corrupt DISHONEST PRACTICES WHILST SERVING IN THE PIG PEN....

Adam Thomas

Stamp & Cheques duties Act 1971; and a. by also placing an 'unfranked/unindorsed' yet 'issued postage stamp' to the value of your tenor providing the necessary added value to the previously inchoate bill of exchange

Adam Thomas

AUs.28 Signature essential for liability No person is liablecas drawer, indorser, or acceptor of a bill unless he has signed it as such. (2) Where a person signs a bill in a trade or assumed name, he is liable thereon as if he had signed it in his own name. (3) the signature of the name of a firm is equivalent to the signature by the person so signing of the names of all persons liable as partners in that firm.

Adam Thomas

I wonder who else can add a lil more VALUE to this thread with some more gold nuggets..or bitcoin nuggets....or just a plain olde nugget...a turd...Derek Hill is good at talking shit outta his ass....Derek Hill needs a nappy roadie....

Chris Evan

I'll list the items:

"received and accepted = endorsed" Although this may be true, and on it's face makes sense, no one gives a fuck. Acceptance of registered mail has in no way ever (in my experience) equaled an endorsement. What can we do about it?

You taught us to have a bank, but we collectively have no clue what to do with this bank. What do we do with this bank? How do we use it to overthrow a banking system?

Why did you say this: "So now you have 3 of the SAME THINGS, DON'T WE?

BIRTH CERTIFICATE TWENTY DOLLAR BILL CHEQUE FROM PIERRE TO SCOTT"?

I liened the NAME 18 months ago....it has stopped NO ONE from harassing me. Actually, they seem to view it as some kind of challenge.

Although you tell the verifiable truth as far as everything I have been able to check, what are we actually supposed to with it?

I am frustrated....we have old guys in here who get their electricity shut off after doing everything right. The advice is "go to war". You have always said "if its hard, you are doing it wrong".....this is clearly hard, what's the easy way?

Scott Duncan

These are things that worried me in 1982.

This was BEFORE we had "alternative money".

So here is how you do it.

Step 1: INCORPORATE IN DELAWARE. Head for the eye of the storm, it's calm there.

Step 2: Get a registered agent. You would pay more for babysitting, and the person being cared for actually BENEFITS you.

Step 3: Classify your shares! Ask your accountant about it. You want a LOT of NON-VOTING SHARES. These are your "pawns" and can get shit done.

Step 4: Liquidate EVERYTHING YOU HAVE, but DON'T SPEND THE MONEY! LOAN it to the corporation. Your accountant can do that too. You then DISCHARGE the monthly payments and submit the transactions to reporting agencies (Through your accountant) and suddenly your PERSON has a CREDIT RATING.

Step 5: Mandate that the ACTING PRESIDENT have food/shelter/utilities provided in your charter.

Step 6: Make that registered agent earn their keep. They give great rates for long-term contracts and it looks good on credit reports.

Step 7: Get vulture capital. For that you need an idea. I have a warehouse full of them if you can't find any. This will allow you to live VERY comfortably, and you will have a surplus. This goes to EVERYONE. Whatever you build MUST SERVE EVERYONE. YES, EVEN THE "BAD GUYS". Yes, even Derek Moran and Robert Menard.

Step 8: Buy a ship and give it to me.

Scott Duncan

OK, let me dumb it down:

Knowing or not, you are compelled to use money and the LEGAL (Surety and Accounting) contract that money provides. That's its "value". The problem is that they are no longer following their own rules. I have said this from the beginning, and claims to the contrary will simply be dismissed as delusion.

I speak up now, just as i spoke up in the 80s and in 1997. THIS time I have an answer EVERYONE can use, not just "special" people like me. I did my best to communicate it to all who can grasp it.

I end up fighting the free-dumbers, and building disruptive banking networks.

That is what I am responsible for. Nothing else.

CLEAR?

I am NOT responsible for the parasites and their "What are you gonna do about it" attitude. I warned it was coming. That's it.

Scott Duncan

I am building the "ARK" as fast as I can, but I don't have enough smart people, and you are all so very slow to learn, and you DO love your bullshit, so very much.

In 2016, I no longer have to pay the price for that. The people who will save my ass have NEVER spoken up. they just watch.

Now they intervene. THAT frightens me. It's later than we think. :/

Pete Daoust

Fun Story :D

A Taxi Driver just came to get an interior of a 100 amps switch that burnt in his duplex.

He will do the job him self, even though he is not an electrician, because he wants to SAVE money :D

I told him�..

What do you think about UBER :D

he went on like crazy on HOW this is ILLEGAL for these fucking UBER guys to do what they do without a PERMIT and so on, he was very hard to stop�..

I said: ahemm�Do you think it�s LEGAL for you to do that specific work you�re about to do ?

:D �.HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!.....the fun I had with him :D

Pete Daoust

I never saw a Black Man from Haiti skating like he did... :D

I told him, the FACT is that you think it's not a big deal when you are doing something illegal, but when the same shit is done against you, you will go crazy about it :D

Pete Daoust

It's "illegal" to refuse LEGAL money and to keep it, and to try collect on the same debt :P

Fucktards: Well, what you've sent has no value for us. Me: Great, send them back then. Fuctards: Well, I can't, I don't know where they are. Me: Too bad, the debt is settled then :P Fucktards: Well, we can't do that... Me: Ok, then, send that legal money back and I promise I'll PAY. Fucktards: You are not cooperative Me: Are you serious ?? :D Fucktard: you have to pay your debt" Me: If I decide to buy it, yes. But in this case I did not took the decision to buy it, I'll rather use the surety of the person so it can discharge that debt, is this ILLEGAL ? Fucktard: No, but we can't accept it :D

August le Blanc

A lien is a negotiable instrument, it may be exchanged:

Step 4: Liquidate EVERYTHING YOU HAVE, but DON'T SPEND THE MONEY! LOAN it to the corporation. Your accountant can do that too. You then DISCHARGE the monthly payments and submit the transactions to reporting agencies (Through your accountant) and suddenly your PERSON has a CREDIT RATING. -Scott Duncan

See; negotiable instruments, zoom in on the left hand side of the page, of the following link, Chris Evan

https://archive.org/stream/accountantsdicti02pixluoft#page/716/mode/2up

J.P. Alexander

Hey Chris. The goal is to stop accepting the money. Any fool with a computer can figure out how to create a debt. It has been stated they aren't following their own rules it is pretty obvious they don't give a fuck. STOP PLAYING..... The only game we should be playing is Battlefield 2142 :-)

Chris Evan

sigh....really? so then, what was this business of starting a trust, starting a corporatation to hold this trust, depositing all instruments in there, exchanging for cryptos, administrating their bills? What was all of this business? I see nothing other than a waste of time....

Pete Daoust

I also spent thousands of hours trying to do the RIGHT things :D

But I see it as a great investment, I don't SECURE often, but when I'll do it, there won't be any confusion about it, I will be able to show the ACCOUNTING, that's for sure :D

Speaking of accounting, I have to find a way to finish this course without falling asleep ffs ! :/

Pete Daoust

Accountability The responsibility of the person or organization responsible for a task to take credit for all positive outcomes and blame for all negative outcomes. Accountability is desirable in finance and economics because it promotes efficiency. See also: Transparency.

:D

J.P. Alexander

:-) That's it but I'm willing to bet that it is inaccurate. It goes on to Moses coming down mountains and liquid metal being in your blood stream to replinish the commodities through blood sacrafice or something like that :-)

Chris Evan

Pete, who owes me? ummmm....everyone who lied to me for 35 years and stole my time by programming me to accept this servitude. But more specifically those in the last 18 months who have stolen my instruments and demanded my time to buy public debts. I have 2 new ones that are claiming some kind of rights to my time and I am fucking pissed about it.

Chris Evan

yes....I am right now trying to figure out if this is a waste of time or not. I have 2 issues pending right now and they do not give a fuck about who or what the surety is. They only want ME to pay. So, yes, Michael, I am wondering if learning this is a waste of time and bullets are a better answer. I have spent countless thousands of hours and countless thousands of dollars and I am in a much worse position than I have ever been in. I would like to be compensated for all this time and expenses, none of this is my fault.

Chris Evan

I am also extremely pissed that NOTHING I have learned has had any positive effect on anything in my life. If anything, learning these facts here and applying them has made my life worse. I have no extra money, I always used to. I have no extra time, I always used to....etc...etc....etc

Chris Evan

Look at Pete, just the other day, he said that he has spoken to QRA or CRA numerous times about some BoEs.....is this worth all of this hassle? There is an easier way. I am sure of it. I don't know what it is.

Chris Evan

http://patrickpretty.com/2012/10/14/the-bizzare-saga-of-denny-ray-hardin-10-year-prison-sentence-of-purported-sovereign-citizen-whom-prosecutors-said-tried-to-extinguish-over-100-million-worth-of-debt-upheld-by-appeals-court/

Isaiah Whitney

I know how you feel Chris. I've come to the conclusion that they don't give a fuck, they don't play by the rules, remedy is theirs I'll never see it, and the admiral wasn't kidding when he said to pick up a gun and organize. It's their club and I'm sick of it. I've learned so much but ultimately was all this knowledge shared with us to be a motivator more than anything? I don't know.

Isaiah Whitney

I know I'm a slave. I have an extremely difficult time living with that. It's contrary to what I am. I've never been too keen on authority. I will continue to learn and try to take advantage of the coming abundance. I can't go to war with the powers that be and succeed at this point. I will die. If somebody collapses the banking system and starts a war just maybe there'll be a vacuum where folks like myself can step in and get something done. Ultimately I'd rather watch the world burn down around me and take my chances than to agonizingly keep playing the game as a slave.

Pete Daoust

:D HAHAHAH

The Helplessness of Judges The commercial lien, which is authorized both by the common law and by Title 15 of the United States Code (USC), is reportedly the same lien the IRS uses to take Americans' homes and cars. However, some pro se litigants do not depend upon Title 15, but upon the common law of negotiable instruments (a.k.a. Commercial Law).

Pete Daoust

You see Chris Evan, I don�t know what else to tell you�..

If, in these past 18 months, you know as being truth that some have stole from you, and/or violates some of your rights, the ONLY thing I know is �

1). Notify them via an AFFIDAVIT/AFFIRMATION, and staple a Notice of Claim to this AFFIDAVIT/AFFIRMATION.

2). The Notice of Claim has to be clear and precise. Why you claim and HOW much you claim.

3). You need to let them the time to rebut and it needs to be clearly written on the claim that if you are wrong, just tell me in writing and I will CANCEL this claim on the spot. Let them all the latitude to DESTROY the claim�.

4). If they do not answer, it means that they can not challenge the claim, so then, an invoice need to be sent�.and again, tell them that if you are wrong, just to tell you in writing and you will CANCEL this invoice�

5). And then a Notice saying you did not receive payment and again, tell them that if you are wrong, just to tell you in writing and you will CANCEL this invoice�

6). And then a Final Notice saying you did not receive payment and again, tell them that if you are wrong, just to tell you in writing and you will CANCEL this invoice�

7). And then a DEFAULT Notice saying that they are now in DEFAULT, and have 72 hours to settle the matter, and it is now obviously a FACT that you are right, there�s no way they can tell otherwise now :P

8). Lien��too late for them now :/

Pete Daoust

Do you realize how stupid you sound with this �Cash up Front� thing ?

WHO IN THE FUCK WILL GIVE YOU �CASH UP FRONT� ?

Unless they really need you, no one will do that.

WHO NEEDS YOU and/or your acquired skills to give you CASH UP FRONT ?

What the fuck is the matter with you, seriously ? :/

David-Paul Sip

"You need to let them the time to rebut and it needs to be clearly written on the claim that if you are wrong, just tell me in writing and I will CANCEL this claim on the spot." Capitaine Pete

So let's pesume they do respond by writing that "You are wrong" ONLY? :)

J.P. Alexander

I haven't read ANYWHERE on THE TENDER FOR LAW anything that leads me to think that at any time I will learn how to "get" a treasury direct account that I could discharge my liabilities with. And it is because even if you could do that they wouldn't let you. That shit is a myth. It is bull shit. What I have read though is how to have a fucking bank. I actually have a fucking bank. Given I'm not EXACTLY sure what to do with it YET. There are debts being created and I have given everything to the TRUST. I think that once everything is SECURED then this bank will have value that can be draw against. Does that make sense? Create an account then use the bank to draw from it or discharge liabilities with it? Isn't that what "THEY" do only they are very irresponsible. That makes sense to me AND seems easy. Maybe I'm just a semi-evolved chimp. What the fuck do I know?

Scott Duncan

I'm not sure why people think my saying "told you so" is some sort of character flaw. I really earned it, and 99% of the world is actively opposed to what I say, when I first say it.

...except I only say what is true. This means "I Told You So" is something that MUST come to pass.

Either grasp what I am saying, when I say it, or live with "I told you so" after. "Told you so", is my RIGHT. I earned it. Those who are LESS than me dared contradict me, and claim it's their "right" to do so, which I agree with, if I get my "told you so" with no grief.

You are wrong, I am not. You don't get to play "victim" and fault me for the fact that you are LESS than I am.

"Told you so" is not a character flaw. It is PROOF I AM BETTER THAN YOU.